Permission for Abortions.

[Haz]

http://www.10tv.com/live/content/local/stories/2009/07/22/abortion.html?sid=102

 

COLUMBUS, Ohio — An Ohio lawmaker has introduced a bill that would prevent a woman from having an abortion unless she gets written consent from the biological father.

 

The proposal by State Rep. John Adams, R-Sidney, has stirred up controversy across the nation, 10TV's Kevin Landers reported.

 

"What does the father have to say in the abortion of his child? He has nothing to say (under current law)," Adams told 10TV News.

 

In the case where the father isn't known, House Bill 252 would compel the woman to provide a list of names of people who may be the father in an effort to determine paternity. The bill also would make it a crime for women to lie about who the father is, and make it illegal for doctors to perform abortions without the father's consent.

 

The bill would force a woman to have a child if the father does not agree to an abortion.

 

"That child should be born, not killed," Adams said.

 

The proposal has created a fire storm among pro-choice advocates.

 

Pro-Choice Ohio issued a statement saying Adams' bill is "completely out of touch with Ohio's mainstream values. The measure is a clear attack on a woman's freedom and privacy.... It does absolutely nothing to reduce the need for abortion."

 

The group Feminists for Choice released a statement saying "...this is ridiculous. It's just another mechanism for demonizing and isolating women who have sex."

 

Planned Parenthood vows to fight the legislation if it becomes law.

 

"It would require written informed consent of the potential father," Gary Daugherty, executive director of Planned Parenthood of Ohio, told 10TV News. "The (U.S.) Supreme Court has already spoken on the issue. It is clearly unconstitutional."

 

Adams' bill is not considered likely to gain approval in the Democratic-controlled House.

 

Watch 10TV News and refresh 10TV.com for additional information.

 

Think it might catch on?  Personally (although it boils my piss in principle) I dont see how any woman needs permission to do exactly what she wants with her own body.

[Mowen]

"The bill would force a woman to have a child if the father does not agree to an abortion."

 

So presumably if the father does not agree to a child she has to get an abortion?

[Haz]

That would infringe her present rights.

[Joey]

There's never going to be an easy way around, granted it's a womans body, however imo the father should have a choice in the matter (unless it's going to have health implications on the mother, which should then be over ruled), if you put yourself in that position i'd hate to be wanting a child, having one then finding out that there's nothing I could do to keep it.

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[Joey]

Actually, that reminds me of a point I forgot to make, but in basic terms. It could lead to a lot more "home" abortions, which can't be good neither.

[SEMTEX]

There's never going to be an easy way around, granted it's a womans body, however imo the father should have a choice in the matter (unless it's going to have health implications on the mother, which should then be over ruled), if you put yourself in that position i'd hate to be wanting a child, having one then finding out that there's nothing I could do to keep it.

 

aye its a tricky bugger innit

 

I can't imagine the feeling of knowing I'm gonna have a kid but then having that taken away from me by the mother.

 

Then again, I can't imagine the feeling of having a kid inside of me that I really didn't want / couldn't afford to have at this time in my life, yet having some cunt father intentionally say no.

[Mowen]

If the two people can't agree on whether they want a kid or not it's never going to be easy.

[SEMTEX]

If the two people can't agree on whether they want a kid or not it's never going to be easy.

 

Aye. I think its fair to say that a hell of a lot of women who are considering abortions aren't on the best of terms with the prospective father.

[Haz]

There's never going to be an easy way around, granted it's a womans body, however imo the father should have a choice in the matter (unless it's going to have health implications on the mother, which should then be over ruled), if you put yourself in that position i'd hate to be wanting a child, having one then finding out that there's nothing I could do to keep it.

That's the real world Joey and I wish I had an answer to the problem of a man wanting a child but having absolutely no say on the matter. But I think on balance, it is probably best to leave it as it is at present.  After all, if you were the carrier,  what would you think of someone else controlling your very own body, against your own wishes?  I reckon you just wouldnt stand for it.  And they reckon it's a man's world.....

 

It should be noted that this move in Ohio is presented by the pro lifers who will do anything to prevent an abortion no matter what the circumstances.  These people would cheerfully arrest control of a woman's body from herself.

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[Haz]

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Dont forget the old fallback.

[Mowen]

There's never going to be an easy way around, granted it's a womans body, however imo the father should have a choice in the matter (unless it's going to have health implications on the mother, which should then be over ruled), if you put yourself in that position i'd hate to be wanting a child, having one then finding out that there's nothing I could do to keep it.

That's the real world Joey and I wish I had an answer to the problem of a man wanting a child but having absolutely no say on the matter. But I think on balance, it is probably best to leave it as it is at present.  After all, if you were the carrier,  what would you think of someone else controlling your very own body, against your own wishes?  I reckon you just wouldnt stand for it.  And they reckon it's a man's world.....

 

It should be noted that this move in Ohio is presented by the pro lifers who will do anything to prevent an abortion no matter what the circumstances.  These people would cheerfully arrest control of a woman's body from herself.

 

I've always been irritated by this name. I'm pro-life, I'm also pro-abortion. The two aren't mutually exclusive.

[Guest toonlass]

What if the woman was raped? Does she have to get permission from the rapist to abort an unwanted child? And what if he says no? She would then have to bring up a child conceived by rape? Mental. 

[SEMTEX]

What if the woman was raped? Does she have to get permission from the rapist to abort an unwanted child? And what if he says no? She would then have to bring up a child conceived by rape? Mental. 

 

 

Great work. You've really tapped into the crux of the matter.

[Haz]

There's never going to be an easy way around, granted it's a womans body, however imo the father should have a choice in the matter (unless it's going to have health implications on the mother, which should then be over ruled), if you put yourself in that position i'd hate to be wanting a child, having one then finding out that there's nothing I could do to keep it.

That's the real world Joey and I wish I had an answer to the problem of a man wanting a child but having absolutely no say on the matter. But I think on balance, it is probably best to leave it as it is at present.  After all, if you were the carrier,  what would you think of someone else controlling your very own body, against your own wishes?  I reckon you just wouldnt stand for it.  And they reckon it's a man's world.....

 

It should be noted that this move in Ohio is presented by the pro lifers who will do anything to prevent an abortion no matter what the circumstances.  These people would cheerfully arrest control of a woman's body from herself.

 

I've always been irritated by this name. I'm pro-life, I'm also pro-abortion. The two aren't mutually exclusive.

 

Then you would be considered as pro -choice.

[GG]

What if the woman was raped? Does she have to get permission from the rapist to abort an unwanted child? And what if he says no? She would then have to bring up a child conceived by rape? Mental. 

 

 

Great work. You've really tapped into the crux of the matter.

 

[Mowen]

There's never going to be an easy way around, granted it's a womans body, however imo the father should have a choice in the matter (unless it's going to have health implications on the mother, which should then be over ruled), if you put yourself in that position i'd hate to be wanting a child, having one then finding out that there's nothing I could do to keep it.

That's the real world Joey and I wish I had an answer to the problem of a man wanting a child but having absolutely no say on the matter. But I think on balance, it is probably best to leave it as it is at present.  After all, if you were the carrier,  what would you think of someone else controlling your very own body, against your own wishes?  I reckon you just wouldnt stand for it.  And they reckon it's a man's world.....

 

It should be noted that this move in Ohio is presented by the pro lifers who will do anything to prevent an abortion no matter what the circumstances.  These people would cheerfully arrest control of a woman's body from herself.

 

I've always been irritated by this name. I'm pro-life, I'm also pro-abortion. The two aren't mutually exclusive.

 

Then you would be considered as pro -choice.

 

I know, but what shit terminology

 

Pro-life, who the fuck isn't pro-life?

[Guest toonlass]

What if the woman was raped? Does she have to get permission from the rapist to abort an unwanted child? And what if he says no? She would then have to bring up a child conceived by rape? Mental. 

 

 

Great work. You've really tapped into the crux of the matter.

 

Wtf?

[Haz]

There's never going to be an easy way around, granted it's a womans body, however imo the father should have a choice in the matter (unless it's going to have health implications on the mother, which should then be over ruled), if you put yourself in that position i'd hate to be wanting a child, having one then finding out that there's nothing I could do to keep it.

That's the real world Joey and I wish I had an answer to the problem of a man wanting a child but having absolutely no say on the matter. But I think on balance, it is probably best to leave it as it is at present.  After all, if you were the carrier,  what would you think of someone else controlling your very own body, against your own wishes?  I reckon you just wouldnt stand for it.  And they reckon it's a man's world.....

 

It should be noted that this move in Ohio is presented by the pro lifers who will do anything to prevent an abortion no matter what the circumstances.  These people would cheerfully arrest control of a woman's body from herself.

 

I've always been irritated by this name. I'm pro-life, I'm also pro-abortion. The two aren't mutually exclusive.

 

Then you would be considered as pro -choice.

 

I know, but what shit terminology

 

Pro-life, who the fuck isn't pro-life?

 

Obviously the same people who enjoy promoting the death penalty.

[Guest toonlass]

There's never going to be an easy way around, granted it's a womans body, however imo the father should have a choice in the matter (unless it's going to have health implications on the mother, which should then be over ruled), if you put yourself in that position i'd hate to be wanting a child, having one then finding out that there's nothing I could do to keep it.

That's the real world Joey and I wish I had an answer to the problem of a man wanting a child but having absolutely no say on the matter. But I think on balance, it is probably best to leave it as it is at present.  After all, if you were the carrier,  what would you think of someone else controlling your very own body, against your own wishes?  I reckon you just wouldnt stand for it.  And they reckon it's a man's world.....

 

It should be noted that this move in Ohio is presented by the pro lifers who will do anything to prevent an abortion no matter what the circumstances.  These people would cheerfully arrest control of a woman's body from herself.

 

I've always been irritated by this name. I'm pro-life, I'm also pro-abortion. The two aren't mutually exclusive.

 

Then you would be considered as pro -choice.

 

I know, but what shit terminology

 

Pro-life, who the fuck isn't pro-life?

 

Suicidal people 

[Pilko]

[Haz]

Do you think a wife should have the permission of her husband?

[Guest toonlass]

Do you think a wife should have the permission of her husband?

 

Permission? No.