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Since people including myself 'discuss' this issue quite a bit, thought I'd create this thread.

 

I don't trust them to do their job even though I sent back that final declaration thingy back a couple of weeks ago.

 

I've got a sheet with the scheduled amounts, but I don't have anything with the dates they go into my account. I also haven't had anything back after that declaration.

 

Anyone else had problems with them? I sense there'll be a few.

 

 

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Just get a job, no point being a student, degrees mean sod all now, if you want to do something with it, you'll most likely have to get a masters as well as Batchelor students are 10 a penny now.

 

:lol: such bullshit.

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Just get a job, no point being a student, degrees mean sod all now, if you want to do something with it, you'll most likely have to get a masters as well as Batchelor students are 10 a penny now.

 

:lol: such bullshit.

He will negotiate you round, just you watch.

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It was a few years ago now, but from what I remember, payments are often a clerical thing. I turned up and gave the necessary documents to my course department when they asked for it, and it was processed very quickly.

 

It was generally people whose course department wasn't organised, or people who didn't turn up on the allocated morning that had to wait ages to get their money.

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Just get a job, no point being a student, degrees mean sod all now, if you want to do something with it, you'll most likely have to get a masters as well as Batchelor students are 10 a penny now.

 

:lol: such bullshit.

He will negotiate you round, just you watch.

 

I have no doubt! With my paltry bachelor's degree in hand, I'm never going to be able to resist his jedi mind tricks. If only I had done a masters.

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Just get a job, no point being a student, degrees mean sod all now, if you want to do something with it, you'll most likely have to get a masters as well as Batchelor students are 10 a penny now.

 

:lol: such bullshit.

 

Don't be so sure of yourself.  I'm a year out of Uni and I'm on crap wages in a shite job.  It is specific to my degree (marketing), which is lucky, but it's shit.  And I'm near London, which is meant to be better for jobs.

 

It's clearly got a lot to do with recession, but what Gorilla's saying has some truth in it.  Everyone's got a degree these days so most of the jobs I apply for get 300+ applicants.  I went to Uni late (started at 21 because I dropped out the first time round) and there's a lot to be said for just getting work experience as soon as you can and getting your employer to put you through qualifications.

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Just get a job, no point being a student, degrees mean sod all now, if you want to do something with it, you'll most likely have to get a masters as well as Batchelor students are 10 a penny now.

 

:lol: such bullshit.

 

Don't be so sure of yourself.  I'm a year out of Uni and I'm on crap wages in a shite job.  It is specific to my degree (marketing), which is lucky, but it's shit.  And I'm near London, which is meant to be better for jobs.

 

It's clearly got a lot to do with recession, but what Gorilla's saying has some truth in it.  Everyone's got a degree these days so most of the jobs I apply for get 300+ applicants.  I went to Uni late (started at 21 because I dropped out the first time round) and there's a lot to be said for just getting work experience as soon as you can and getting your employer to put you through qualifications.

 

I'm just coming up to 3 years out of Uni.

 

I spent a year dossing around, then got a job. I could not have got this job without a Bachelor's degree. It is significantly higher paid than anything I would've got without a degree. Perhaps this is more prevalent in IT than other fields, but I couldn't answer that one for you.

 

Yes, lots of people have bachelors degrees, they're hardly uncommon, but they put you way ahead of the common Administrative Assistant.

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And yeah, more to the point, I had a few issues with the Student Loans Company paying my loan extremely late.  It's frustrating as hell because you have to keep ringing the call centre and hearing a different version of events over the course of a good few weeks.  

 

All you can do is be persistent with them in my experience.

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Just get a job, no point being a student, degrees mean sod all now, if you want to do something with it, you'll most likely have to get a masters as well as Batchelor students are 10 a penny now.

 

:lol: such bullshit.

 

Don't be so sure of yourself.  I'm a year out of Uni and I'm on crap wages in a shite job.  It is specific to my degree (marketing), which is lucky, but it's shit.  And I'm near London, which is meant to be better for jobs.

 

It's clearly got a lot to do with recession, but what Gorilla's saying has some truth in it.  Everyone's got a degree these days so most of the jobs I apply for get 300+ applicants.  I went to Uni late (started at 21 because I dropped out the first time round) and there's a lot to be said for just getting work experience as soon as you can and getting your employer to put you through qualifications.

 

I'm just coming up to 3 years out of Uni.

 

I spent a year dossing around, then got a job. I could not have got this job without a Bachelor's degree. It is significantly higher paid than anything I would've got without a degree. Perhaps this is more prevalent in IT than other fields, but I couldn't answer that one for you.

 

Yes, lots of people have bachelors degrees, they're hardly uncommon, but they put you way ahead of the common Administrative Assistant.

 

Yeah but in lots of fields you could start at a company when you're 16/18, show your promise and get put through qualifications.  I know what you're saying though.

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Would generally agree. Only do a degree if it is part of a long term plan with regard to getting you into the career you want to pursue. There is loads of competition. For example I had a lot of friends who did zoology at uni, and two years on, one is at an american wildlife park, but two others test cigarettes, two have had to go onto further education, one has an office job she hates, and two are unemployed. So don't do a degree just for the sake of it.

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Just get a job, no point being a student, degrees mean sod all now, if you want to do something with it, you'll most likely have to get a masters as well as Batchelor students are 10 a penny now.

 

:lol: such bullshit.

 

Yep.

 

It depends what your degree is. Obviously Journalism grads are going to find it harder than someone who's actually done a degree that employers want/need.

 

Still, it's a good laugh whatever you spend 3 years doing and you won't have too much to regret as long as you don't leave with massive personal loans, overdrafts and credit card bills (the student loan itself isn't too bad).

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Just get a job, no point being a student, degrees mean sod all now, if you want to do something with it, you'll most likely have to get a masters as well as Batchelor students are 10 a penny now.

 

:lol: such bullshit.

Well to be fair with IT, yes it does help, I have a comp sci degree but I could have got the job I have now without it, started as a temp paying invoices, I saw a gap suggested something and they let me make a piddly vb program to fill the gap, then they put me forward for other stuff, not even knowing I had a degree then eventually moved into an IT role.  The work I do now is not helped in the slightest by my degree as its doing something so far removed from what I 'learnt' at uni its untrue.  I also started programming when I was 13 and learnt nothing at uni.  Most IT positions are different but I know plenty of people wth non-specific degrees such as Business and History that just temp and can't get a jb that requires  degree as theres that much competition, its all about experience now.  Look how complx the recruitment process is now compared to what it used to be,  my lass works in recruitment and she says for most roles they look for experience first, then if theyve got a degree thats nice but isnt key.  Really what I'm saing is yes its nice but is it worth what it costs you.

 

Anyone with a levels can get a 16k per year job so factor that in and the debt, and going to uni will cost you 40k.

 

Worth it?

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Just get a job, no point being a student, degrees mean sod all now, if you want to do something with it, you'll most likely have to get a masters as well as Batchelor students are 10 a penny now.

 

:lol: such bullshit.

Well to be fair with IT, yes it does help, I have a comp sci degree but I could have got the job I have now without it, started as a temp paying invoices, I saw a gap suggested something and they let me make a piddly vb program to fill the gap, then they put me forward for other stuff, not even knowing I had a degree then eventually moved into an IT role.  The work I do now is not helped in the slightest by my degree as its doing something so far removed from what I 'learnt' at uni its untrue.  I also started programming when I was 13 and learnt nothing at uni.  Most IT positions are different but I know plenty of people wth non-specific degrees such as Business and History that just temp and can't get a jb that requires  degree as theres that much competition, its all about experience now.  Look how complx the recruitment process is now compared to what it used to be,  my lass works in recruitment and she says for most roles they look for experience first, then if theyve got a degree thats nice but isnt key.  Really what I'm saing is yes its nice but is it worth what it costs you.

 

Anyone with a levels can get a 16k per year job so factor that in and the debt, and going to uni will cost you 40k.

 

Worth it?

Where?

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Just get a job, no point being a student, degrees mean sod all now, if you want to do something with it, you'll most likely have to get a masters as well as Batchelor students are 10 a penny now.

 

:lol: such bullshit.

Well to be fair with IT, yes it does help, I have a comp sci degree but I could have got the job I have now without it, started as a temp paying invoices, I saw a gap suggested something and they let me make a piddly vb program to fill the gap, then they put me forward for other stuff, not even knowing I had a degree then eventually moved into an IT role.  The work I do now is not helped in the slightest by my degree as its doing something so far removed from what I 'learnt' at uni its untrue.  I also started programming when I was 13 and learnt nothing at uni.  Most IT positions are different but I know plenty of people wth non-specific degrees such as Business and History that just temp and can't get a jb that requires  degree as theres that much competition, its all about experience now.  Look how complx the recruitment process is now compared to what it used to be,  my lass works in recruitment and she says for most roles they look for experience first, then if theyve got a degree thats nice but isnt key.  Really what I'm saing is yes its nice but is it worth what it costs you.

 

Anyone with a levels can get a 16k per year job so factor that in and the debt, and going to uni will cost you 40k.

 

Worth it?

Uni's cost me 12k at most.

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Just get a job, no point being a student, degrees mean sod all now, if you want to do something with it, you'll most likely have to get a masters as well as Batchelor students are 10 a penny now.

 

:lol: such bullshit.

Well to be fair with IT, yes it does help, I have a comp sci degree but I could have got the job I have now without it, started as a temp paying invoices, I saw a gap suggested something and they let me make a piddly vb program to fill the gap, then they put me forward for other stuff, not even knowing I had a degree then eventually moved into an IT role.  The work I do now is not helped in the slightest by my degree as its doing something so far removed from what I 'learnt' at uni its untrue.  I also started programming when I was 13 and learnt nothing at uni.  Most IT positions are different but I know plenty of people wth non-specific degrees such as Business and History that just temp and can't get a jb that requires  degree as theres that much competition, its all about experience now.  Look how complx the recruitment process is now compared to what it used to be,  my lass works in recruitment and she says for most roles they look for experience first, then if theyve got a degree thats nice but isnt key.  Really what I'm saing is yes its nice but is it worth what it costs you.

 

Anyone with a levels can get a 16k per year job so factor that in and the debt, and going to uni will cost you 40k.

 

Worth it?

Uni's cost me 12k at most.

Hw much would you have earned hdyou had a full time job for 3 years.

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Depends on the full time job, prospects aren't massive in Durham really. But I'm setting myself up to earn more. By going to Uni i've gained contacts at Newcastle the BBC and ITV. I couldn't have got them without Uni the degree allows me the foundations to look professional when approaching people, over someone who just "Enjoys writing".

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Just get a job, no point being a student, degrees mean sod all now, if you want to do something with it, you'll most likely have to get a masters as well as Batchelor students are 10 a penny now.

 

:lol: such bullshit.

Well to be fair with IT, yes it does help, I have a comp sci degree but I could have got the job I have now without it, started as a temp paying invoices, I saw a gap suggested something and they let me make a piddly vb program to fill the gap, then they put me forward for other stuff, not even knowing I had a degree then eventually moved into an IT role.  The work I do now is not helped in the slightest by my degree as its doing something so far removed from what I 'learnt' at uni its untrue.  I also started programming when I was 13 and learnt nothing at uni.  Most IT positions are different but I know plenty of people wth non-specific degrees such as Business and History that just temp and can't get a jb that requires  degree as theres that much competition, its all about experience now.  Look how complx the recruitment process is now compared to what it used to be,  my lass works in recruitment and she says for most roles they look for experience first, then if theyve got a degree thats nice but isnt key.  Really what I'm saing is yes its nice but is it worth what it costs you.

 

Anyone with a levels can get a 16k per year job so factor that in and the debt, and going to uni will cost you 40k.

 

Worth it?

Uni's cost me 12k at most.

 

It has also cost you the wage of the full time job you've missed out on for three years.

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But as I said, I stand to make that back in future employment. And that's before you factor in the family business I took over in year 2 after my parents subsequent illness. Yes it's cost me but it's a worthy investment.

 

James were you not complaining about not having time for a dissertation? Yet you have allocated enough time for frivolous arguments over the validity of a degree when you are attempting to gain a masters? Tell me you can see the irony in this.

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But as I said, I stand to make that back in future employment. And that's before you factor in the family business I took over in year 2 after my parents subsequent illness. Yes it's cost me but it's a worthy investment.

 

James were you not complaining about not having time for a dissertation? Yet you have allocated enough time for frivolous arguments over the validity of a degree when you are attempting to gain a masters? Tell me you can see the irony in this.

You may make it back but you're in a specialist and rare field.

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But as I said, I stand to make that back in future employment. And that's before you factor in the family business I took over in year 2 after my parents subsequent illness. Yes it's cost me but it's a worthy investment.

 

James were you not complaining about not having time for a dissertation? Yet you have allocated enough time for frivolous arguments over the validity of a degree when you are attempting to gain a masters? Tell me you can see the irony in this.

You may make it back but you're in a specialist and rare field.

I'm actually in a detached house in Durham, thank you very much.

 

But my point stands, the outlay for me is justified, qualifications allow for a standardised recognition of knowledge in a subject or field.

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But as I said, I stand to make that back in future employment. And that's before you factor in the family business I took over in year 2 after my parents subsequent illness. Yes it's cost me but it's a worthy investment.

 

James were you not complaining about not having time for a dissertation? Yet you have allocated enough time for frivolous arguments over the validity of a degree when you are attempting to gain a masters? Tell me you can see the irony in this.

You may make it back but you're in a specialist and rare field.

I'm actually in a detached house in Durham, thank you very much.

 

But my point stands, the outlay for me is justified, qualifications allow for a standardised recognition of knowledge in a subject or field.

What I am trying to get across is for people in specialist fields this is fine but how many people do you knowthat do pointless degrees that neer get you any where, my mte did marine biology at arguably the best uni for this in the world or possibly 2nd best and he rents cars for a living.

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