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What is Glen Johnson doing? That's like the third time the left winger has got in behind him with acres of space. Luckily for Johnson the winger is pretty s***.

 

Because he's garbage?

 

His club form would suggest otherwise tbh.

 

Would it? Whenever I've seen him for Liverpool, his defending's been typically hilarious.

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What is Glen Johnson doing? That's like the third time the left winger has got in behind him with acres of space. Luckily for Johnson the winger is pretty s***.

 

Because he's garbage?

 

His club form would suggest otherwise tbh.

 

Would it? Whenever I've seen him for Liverpool, his defending's been typically hilarious.

 

He has been their best player.

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If a keeper touches the ball with his hands outside the area, is it a red card irrelative of the context? Like, even if there isn't an obvious goalscoring opportunity.

 

yes

 

No it isn't.

 

since when? BTW I'm basing this on seeing Tony Norman sent off for Sunderland for a simple catch, way back in the day

 

I refer you to: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/3586054.stm

 

Sounds like a different interpretation to me  :dontknow:

 

What do you mean?

 

Well what we have here is examples of both a yellow card and a red card given for the same offence. Who's to say which is right, unless you can produce a rule of course

 

It's treated exactly the same as any handball. Page 110: http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/federation/81/42/36/lotg_en.pdf

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If a keeper touches the ball with his hands outside the area, is it a red card irrelative of the context? Like, even if there isn't an obvious goalscoring opportunity.

 

yes

 

No it isn't.

 

since when? BTW I'm basing this on seeing Tony Norman sent off for Sunderland for a simple catch, way back in the day

 

I refer you to: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/3586054.stm

 

Sounds like a different interpretation to me  :dontknow:

 

What do you mean?

 

Well what we have here is examples of both a yellow card and a red card given for the same offence. Who's to say which is right, unless you can produce a rule of course

 

It's treated exactly the same as any handball. Page 110: http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/federation/81/42/36/lotg_en.pdf

It's not though. The vast majority of handballs are just freekicks. If a keeper tocuhes the ball out of the box, he's lucky to escape with a yellow card.

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If a keeper touches the ball with his hands outside the area, is it a red card irrelative of the context? Like, even if there isn't an obvious goalscoring opportunity.

 

yes

 

No it isn't.

 

since when? BTW I'm basing this on seeing Tony Norman sent off for Sunderland for a simple catch, way back in the day

 

I refer you to: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/3586054.stm

 

Sounds like a different interpretation to me  :dontknow:

 

What do you mean?

 

Well what we have here is examples of both a yellow card and a red card given for the same offence. Who's to say which is right, unless you can produce a rule of course

 

It's treated exactly the same as any handball. Page 110: http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/federation/81/42/36/lotg_en.pdf

 

you dont seriously expect me to go through that do you?  :lol:

 

Cheers though, as I understood it any deliberate handball by the keeper outside his box warranted a red card. It seems that some referees are also under this impression tbf

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Never a penalty in a million years, but meh, expect decisions like that.

 

Missed the incident for the pen, was it another dive like last week from 'Mr. Honest'?

 

Surely not Rooney NEVER dives - it's only those pesky foreigners man. :rolleyes:

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Never a penalty in a million years, but meh, expect decisions like that.

 

Missed the incident for the pen, was it another dive like last week from 'Mr. Honest'?

 

Surely not Rooney NEVER dives - it's only those pesky foreigners man. :rolleyes:

 

I didnt think he did, he is too honest for things like that, tbf.

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If a keeper touches the ball with his hands outside the area, is it a red card irrelative of the context? Like, even if there isn't an obvious goalscoring opportunity.

 

yes

 

No it isn't.

 

since when? BTW I'm basing this on seeing Tony Norman sent off for Sunderland for a simple catch, way back in the day

 

I refer you to: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/3586054.stm

 

Sounds like a different interpretation to me  :dontknow:

 

What do you mean?

 

Well what we have here is examples of both a yellow card and a red card given for the same offence. Who's to say which is right, unless you can produce a rule of course

 

It's treated exactly the same as any handball. Page 110: http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/federation/81/42/36/lotg_en.pdf

It's not though. The vast majority of handballs are just freekicks. If a keeper tocuhes the ball out of the box, he's lucky to escape with a yellow card.

 

By the laws of the game it is. When a goalkeeper carries the ball out of the area during his kicking motion, they don't send him off ffs. :lol:

 

Jaaskelainen did it at SJP, Shearer slammed the free kick away. Jose Reina did it a season or two ago too against Bolton (he didn't actually, it was a ludicrous decision). Neither were sent off though.

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If a keeper touches the ball with his hands outside the area, is it a red card irrelative of the context? Like, even if there isn't an obvious goalscoring opportunity.

 

yes

 

No it isn't.

 

since when? BTW I'm basing this on seeing Tony Norman sent off for Sunderland for a simple catch, way back in the day

 

I refer you to: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/3586054.stm

 

Sounds like a different interpretation to me  :dontknow:

 

What do you mean?

 

Well what we have here is examples of both a yellow card and a red card given for the same offence. Who's to say which is right, unless you can produce a rule of course

 

It's treated exactly the same as any handball. Page 110: http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/federation/81/42/36/lotg_en.pdf

It's not though. The vast majority of handballs are just freekicks. If a keeper tocuhes the ball out of the box, he's lucky to escape with a yellow card.

 

By the laws of the game it is. When a goalkeeper carries the ball out of the area during his kicking motion, they don't send him off ffs. :lol:

 

Jaaskelainen did it at SJP, Shearer slammed the free kick away. Jose Reina did it a season or two ago too against Bolton (he didn't actually, it was a ludicrous decision). Neither were sent off though.

 

The Jaaskelainen incident was for holding on to the ball too long (in the box)

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If a keeper touches the ball with his hands outside the area, is it a red card irrelative of the context? Like, even if there isn't an obvious goalscoring opportunity.

 

yes

 

No it isn't.

 

since when? BTW I'm basing this on seeing Tony Norman sent off for Sunderland for a simple catch, way back in the day

 

I refer you to: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/3586054.stm

 

Sounds like a different interpretation to me  :dontknow:

 

What do you mean?

 

Well what we have here is examples of both a yellow card and a red card given for the same offence. Who's to say which is right, unless you can produce a rule of course

 

It's treated exactly the same as any handball. Page 110: http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/federation/81/42/36/lotg_en.pdf

It's not though. The vast majority of handballs are just freekicks. If a keeper tocuhes the ball out of the box, he's lucky to escape with a yellow card.

 

By the laws of the game it is. When a goalkeeper carries the ball out of the area during his kicking motion, they don't send him off ffs. :lol:

 

Jaaskelainen did it at SJP, Shearer slammed the free kick away. Jose Reina did it a season or two ago too against Bolton (he didn't actually, it was a ludicrous decision). Neither were sent off though.

 

The Jaaskelainen incident was for holding on to the ball too long (in the box)

 

You're right actually. I'm sure we got a decision like that under SBR though, I was thinking WBA too but that was a backpass.

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If a keeper touches the ball with his hands outside the area, is it a red card irrelative of the context? Like, even if there isn't an obvious goalscoring opportunity.

 

yes

 

No it isn't.

 

since when? BTW I'm basing this on seeing Tony Norman sent off for Sunderland for a simple catch, way back in the day

 

I refer you to: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/3586054.stm

 

Sounds like a different interpretation to me  :dontknow:

 

What do you mean?

 

Well what we have here is examples of both a yellow card and a red card given for the same offence. Who's to say which is right, unless you can produce a rule of course

 

It's treated exactly the same as any handball. Page 110: http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/federation/81/42/36/lotg_en.pdf

It's not though. The vast majority of handballs are just freekicks. If a keeper tocuhes the ball out of the box, he's lucky to escape with a yellow card.

 

By the laws of the game it is. When a goalkeeper carries the ball out of the area during his kicking motion, they don't send him off ffs. :lol:

 

Jaaskelainen did it at SJP, Shearer slammed the free kick away. Jose Reina did it a season or two ago too against Bolton (he didn't actually, it was a ludicrous decision). Neither were sent off though.

 

The Jaaskelainen incident was for holding on to the ball too long (in the box)

 

You're right actually. I'm sure we got a decision like that under SBR though, I was thinking WBA too but that was a backpass.

 

It was a European game I think.

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If a keeper touches the ball with his hands outside the area, is it a red card irrelative of the context? Like, even if there isn't an obvious goalscoring opportunity.

 

yes

 

No it isn't.

 

since when? BTW I'm basing this on seeing Tony Norman sent off for Sunderland for a simple catch, way back in the day

 

I refer you to: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/3586054.stm

 

Sounds like a different interpretation to me  :dontknow:

 

What do you mean?

 

Well what we have here is examples of both a yellow card and a red card given for the same offence. Who's to say which is right, unless you can produce a rule of course

 

It's treated exactly the same as any handball. Page 110: http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/affederation/federation/81/42/36/lotg_en.pdf

It's not though. The vast majority of handballs are just freekicks. If a keeper tocuhes the ball out of the box, he's lucky to escape with a yellow card.

 

By the laws of the game it is. When a goalkeeper carries the ball out of the area during his kicking motion, they don't send him off ffs. :lol:

 

Jaaskelainen did it at SJP, Shearer slammed the free kick away. Jose Reina did it a season or two ago too against Bolton (he didn't actually, it was a ludicrous decision). Neither were sent off though.

 

The Jaaskelainen incident was for holding on to the ball too long (in the box)

 

You're right actually. I'm sure we got a decision like that under SBR though, I was thinking WBA too but that was a backpass.

 

It was a European game I think.

 

Bingo. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/n/newcastle_united/3525557.stm

 

Cheers.

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Never a penalty in a million years, but meh, expect decisions like that.

 

Missed the incident for the pen, was it another dive like last week from 'Mr. Honest'?

 

Surely not Rooney NEVER dives - it's only those pesky foreigners man. :rolleyes:

 

I didnt think he did, he is too honest for things like that, tbf.

 

Oh aye - I forgot. Bit like Owen and Gerrard anarl.

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Just got in from work and turned it on in time for the Defoe goal.

 

My dad reckons Rooney dived? Didn't he say the other day in the Sun that he was a honest player? ???

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