Ronaldo Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Against Sheff Wed it helped get us the goal but we looked incredibly stale in that game, the same against Leicester tbh. Against Reading it did nowt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 "in terms of goals it hasn't given us success this season" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Crooks Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Alternatively, we could stop playing long ball football. In terms of goals it hasn't given us success this season. That said, Carroll is the only player I'd start with Harewood Agreed. It's only ever gonna get you so far. From what i remember of saturday though Marlon never won a single header and his touch is highly suspect. I'd play Carroll/lovenkrands or Carroll/Ranger. Maybe its fitness with Marlon but he didnt cut on saturday against a relatively poor side. Be lovely to play through the midfield more often give the lad a few more options but such is the nature of the beast i suppose Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Harewood has to be there man, the rest have proved they aren't goal scorers, at least yet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueStar Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Just booked my train tickets, coming back I had a choice of paying £125 to travel standard class or £39 to travel First Class Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ronaldo Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 "in terms of goals it hasn't given us success this season" 2 goals in 11 games against the worst of defences doesn't represent success to me. The long ball tactic succeeds only in us losing the ball time and time again. We looked out most dangerous going forward against Brom, Reading and Ispwich to me. Simply because we played some football and got the ball wide when we could. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 It won us those games at the end of the day, that's all i'm saying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishmael Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Would have preferred this to be a midweek game as I could have sauntered across to catch it 1-2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzle Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 "in terms of goals it hasn't given us success this season" 2 goals in 11 games against the worst of defences doesn't represent success to me. The long ball tactic succeeds only in us losing the ball time and time again. We looked out most dangerous going forward against Brom, Reading and Ispwich to me. Simply because we played some football and got the ball wide when we could. 2 goals in 11 isn't when they were playing together though. The team scored 5 goals in the 2 games Ranger and Carroll started up front. Not saying we should start Ranger-Carroll but the statistic you keep bringing up is totally misleading. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 What the fuck are you on about? I'm not talking about Ranger, Carroll or whoever. I'm referring to the long ball tactics we've played most of the time this season with little success. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzle Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 What the f*** are you on about? I'm not talking about Ranger, Carroll or whoever. I'm referring to the long ball tactics we've played most of the time this season with little success. We can still play decent football with Ranger and Carroll up front, we don't have to play long ball football. You're the one who keeps bringing up that stat and I don't know why. We've played long ball football all season except maybe Reading. Even against West Brom our tactics were still hump it up to Carroll. If you're just talking about long ball tactic why keep saying 2 goals in 11 games? We haven't ****ing got 2 goals in 11 games playing long ball football, we've scored much more. Unless, as I say, you were referring to Ranger and Carroll solely.... Not that hard to understand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 God, you're a waste of time. Directly off a long ball, we've scored 2 in 11 games Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzle Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 God, you're a waste of time. Ask most people and they'd say the say about you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 The long ball tactic is exactly what we should use with the players we've got. We have two or three big strikers, slow, shite midfielders who can battle and Kevin Nolan who's success at bolton was under long ball king Sam Allardyce. How else can we play seeing as most of our midfielders are incapable of running hard for 90 mins? Pretty hard to pass and move if you miss out the 'move' part. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Harper Simpson Taylor Khiz Enrique R.Taylor Nolan Smith Loven Carroll Harewood Jonas and Guthrie impact players off bench if needed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmk Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 The long ball tactic is exactly what we should use with the players we've got. We have two or three big strikers, slow, shite midfielders who can battle and Kevin Nolan who's success at bolton was under long ball king Sam Allardyce. How else can we play seeing as most of our midfielders are incapable of running hard for 90 mins? Pretty hard to pass and move if you miss out the 'move' part. I agree. Unless the likes of Guthrie and Jonas started playing a hell of a lot better and demanding the ball we are better off using this sort of tactic. Butt, Nolan and Barton can't seem to pass it properly over 5 yards so it's best to bypass them altogether, try to get it down the flanks or up to the big lads with Nolan playing off them picking up the scraps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Harper Simpson Taylor Khiz Enrique R.Taylor Nolan Smith Loven Carroll Harewood Jonas and Guthrie impact players off bench if needed. people still putting Lovenkrands on the LW? I didn't expect such nonsense from you tbf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Harper Simpson Taylor Khiz Enrique R.Taylor Nolan Smith Loven Carroll Harewood Jonas and Guthrie impact players off bench if needed. people still putting Lovenkrands on the LW? I didn't expect such nonsense from you tbf I'd consider him for left wing, but out of necessity more than will. We're hardly bustling with options. Still, I'd probably have that team but with Jonas in place of Lovenkrands. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 I'd drop Guthrie. For his age, his energy levels, passing, etc. are shocking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 I'd drop Guthrie. For his age, his energy levels, passing, etc. are shocking. I remember saying last season that he was hiding in some games and it's disappointing that he hasn't stepped up to the plate even at this level. I have severe doubts about him now, he's got the ability to perform much better than he's shown but he seems easily dominated by even mediocre opposition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Didn't think in a million years in August I'd be saying my first-choice midfield would be Smith & Nolan. Thought it would be Barton & Guthrie nailed on as I thought they'd piss this league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Niether have them have been given more than 2 games in central midfield this season, lets not draw conclusions just yet. In fairness to Smith, he's been brilliant in that position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Harper Simpson Taylor Khiz Enrique R.Taylor Nolan Smith Loven Carroll Harewood Jonas and Guthrie impact players off bench if needed. people still putting Lovenkrands on the LW? I didn't expect such nonsense from you tbf Jonas was woeful on Saturday and really doesn't deserve to start as he's having a negative effect on him. Guthrie is suffering from a lack of confidence and likewise, would be better on the bench. I really don't want to put Geremi there, or bring in Butt, so the only option really for me is Lovenkrands. He's shit on the wing but then again he hasn't been doing much upfront lately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted October 5, 2009 Share Posted October 5, 2009 Lovenkrands bring absolutely nothing to the wing, he's a finisher and nothing else Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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