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Newcastle United Supporters Trust (NUST)   

118 members have voted

  1. 1. Have you / do you intend to pledge to the 1892 Pledge scheme orchestrated by the NUST?

    • Yes
      59
    • No
      50


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8 hours ago, 54 said:

My math may be wrong, but at the current rate, the 1892 pledge will have raised £1M in a years time.

Will probably get a better idea of recurring donations (rather than one offs) in around a month's time? 

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8 hours ago, 54 said:

My math may be wrong, but at the current rate, the 1892 pledge will have raised £1M in a years time.

£760,356 isn’t it? If all donations are reoccurring at the same rate and nobody loses interest.

Just over 4.5 years to get 1% of the club, to do an unspecified thing with. Again, assuming all donations are reoccurring at the same rate and nobody loses interest. Also assuming the owner at the time will be willing to sell the 1%.

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2 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said:

£760,356 isn’t it? If all donations are reoccurring at the same rate and nobody loses interest.

Just over 4.5 years to get 1% of the club, to do an unspecified thing with. Again, assuming all donations are reoccurring at the same rate and nobody loses interest. Also assuming the owner at the time will be willing to sell the 1%.

Thats a lot of ifs 🤓

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6 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said:

£760,356 isn’t it? If all donations are reoccurring at the same rate and nobody loses interest.

Just over 4.5 years to get 1% of the club, to do an unspecified thing with. Again, assuming all donations are reoccurring at the same rate and nobody loses interest. Also assuming the owner at the time will be willing to sell the 1%.

I think ultimately this is a good charity fundraiser, isn't it? 

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6 hours ago, Rafalove said:

Hope the events of the day bring home the message to many fans the necessity of clubs being fan owned.

I get your point absolutely.  However, there are too many brain dead fans (sheep) to grasp what you are referring to.

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Interesting that we are always told that the trust isn’t a protest movement. Seems like MUST think differently and organised yesterday’s protest. We’ve had no bigger issue in our clubs recent history than the blocked PCP takeover. People would be naive to think that MUFC supporters protesting yesterday all want 50+1, they just want rid of the Glazers and would be ecstatic at the Saudis coming in for them.

As the largest supporters trust in the country surely NUST could muster a similar protest at St Jame’s, after all 97% of the membership backs this takeover. 50+1 is idealistic and a pipe dream in my opinion, we should be fighting tooth and nail to get this takeover through.

Yesterday wasn’t an example of how we should all be fighting for fan ownership, it was that we should demand good and responsible ownership such as Leicester City. It also shows us that the likes of Liverpool and Man U fans would not have accepted the PL blocking a transformative takeover of them. The NUST made a great start in demanding answers, however they accepted the PL’s version of events, and have simply moved on to other projects. The takeover of our club should still be at the forefront of their thinking. 
 

The likes of Arsenal, Man U and other fans would bite your arm off for the Saudis. We should be ramping up the pressure on the PL at every opportunity. The return of fans in coming weeks should be used by us to vocally and visually leave the PL in no doubt about what we think of this blocked takeover. The eyes of the trust should still be on a realistic, attainable and transformative takeover of our club.

https://www.imust.org.uk/Blog/Entry/protest-at-2pm-outside-old-trafford-before-liverpool-match

 

 

 

Edited by Whitley mag

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When viewed in isolation NUST appears admirable in what it’s doing in terms of trying to give fans a voice and working to try to get better football governance and for those things they are doing they should be applauded.

However, they have repeatedly time and time again refused to confirm to its members that its current objectives are not compatible with protest organisation or more militant tactics. If they admitted this, it would clear space for other more militant fan groups to be set up to deliver the protest side of things.

So really despite the good things they are doing, that single failure is really demonstrating a lack of full integrity and is therefore a hindrance to the club.

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21 minutes ago, James said:

When viewed in isolation NUST appears admirable in what it’s doing in terms of trying to give fans a voice and working to try to get better football governance and for those things they are doing they should be applauded.

However, they have repeatedly time and time again refused to confirm to its members that its current objectives are not compatible with protest organisation or more militant tactics. If they admitted this, it would clear space for other more militant fan groups to be set up to deliver the protest side of things.

So really despite the good things they are doing, that single failure is really demonstrating a lack of full integrity and is therefore a hindrance to the club.

Nah, like!

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I mean they literally built most of their membership on the back of false promises regarding protests when Rafa left.

They can’t protest though, that’ll affect Alex’s chances of getting to sit in a posh box at a match.

Why worry about the current state of affairs? What has happened in the last couple of years to get upset about?

It’s much better to build a friendship with some chap in the fan engagement team who has no authority to do anything. Also great to buy 1% of the club in 6 years to do absolutely nothing with. Pissing in the wind that project, when we’ve been screaming for action for years.

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1 hour ago, Whitley mag said:

Interesting that we are always told that the trust isn’t a protest movement. Seems like MUST think differently and organised yesterday’s protest. We’ve had no bigger issue in our clubs recent history than the blocked PCP takeover. People would be naive to think that MUFC supporters protesting yesterday all want 50+1, they just want rid of the Glazers and would be ecstatic at the Saudis coming in for them.

As the largest supporters trust in the country surely NUST could muster a similar protest at St Jame’s, after all 97% of the membership backs this takeover. 50+1 is idealistic and a pipe dream in my opinion, we should be fighting tooth and nail to get this takeover through.

Yesterday wasn’t an example of how we should all be fighting for fan ownership, it was that we should demand good and responsible ownership such as Leicester City. It also shows us that the likes of Liverpool and Man U fans would not have accepted the PL blocking a transformative takeover of them. The NUST made a great start in demanding answers, however they accepted the PL’s version of events, and have simply moved on to other projects. The takeover of our club should still be at the forefront of their thinking. 
 

The likes of Arsenal, Man U and other fans would bite your arm off for the Saudis. We should be ramping up the pressure on the PL at every opportunity. The return of fans in coming weeks should be used by us to vocally and visually leave the PL in no doubt about what we think of this blocked takeover. The eyes of the trust should still be on a realistic, attainable and transformative takeover of our club.

https://www.imust.org.uk/Blog/Entry/protest-at-2pm-outside-old-trafford-before-liverpool-match

 

I was wondering what the Trusts of these clubs were doing about it. Interesting that ours seems so against this sort of action.

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It infuriates me more that I think about it. They have a great platform to launch something from, literally have most of the NE sports media available to support them.

What do they do with it? Launch a fucking ridiculous pipedream which will do absolutely fuck all but satisfies the board’s desires to stroke their own egos.

How fucking easy would it have been to organise a peaceful protest outside SJP? They have 16,000+ members ffs. They’d only need 10% of them to turn up to make it worthwhile. Huge amount of money sitting in a bank account doing fuck all. Imagine the banners, the leaflets, the costumes etc that could have been organised?

They don’t represent their membership at all. Their members have told them time and time again what they want. They don’t fucking listen and waste opportunity after opportunity to get something done.

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Just now, neesy111 said:

The issue I'm seeing with the trust is everything is too democratic and too procedural.

Democratic ? You mean if most of the members voted for protest they would abide by that and organise one ?

Aye , reet ...

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Just now, InspectorCoarse said:

Democratic ? You mean if most of the members voted for protest they would abide by that and organise one ?

Aye , reet ...

I'd bet most of those who voted for protest wouldn't even bother joining in though, this has been seen in the past multiple times.

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3 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said:

It infuriates me more that I think about it. They have a great platform to launch something from, literally have most of the NE sports media available to support them.

What do they do with it? Launch a fucking ridiculous pipedream which will do absolutely fuck all but satisfies the board’s desires to stroke their own egos.

How fucking easy would it have been to organise a peaceful protest outside SJP? They have 16,000+ members ffs. They’d only need 10% of them to turn up to make it worthwhile. Huge amount of money sitting in a bank account doing fuck all. Imagine the banners, the leaflets, the costumes etc that could have been organised?

They don’t represent their membership at all. Their members have told them time and time again what they want. They don’t fucking listen and waste opportunity after opportunity to get something done.

Why would anyone need costumes etc in order to protest ? Did the Man U fans have much in the way of that ? No , they just got up off their arses and did something . 

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1 minute ago, neesy111 said:

I'd bet most of those who voted for protest wouldn't even bother joining in though, this has been seen in the past multiple times.

Missing my point - NUST when it comes to the issue of protest isnt democratic 

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4 minutes ago, InspectorCoarse said:

Why would anyone need costumes etc in order to protest ? Did the Man U fans have much in the way of that ? No , they just got up off their arses and did something . 

I don’t disagree. I was just explaining the Trust with their membership and resources could make it bigger and better than anything seen before - which would encourage people to show up.

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3 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said:

I don’t disagree. I was just explaining the Trust with their membership and resources could make it bigger and better than anything seen before - which would encourage people to show up.

But protest  doesnt need all the accoutrements  you describe - it doesnt need costumes , banners , people dressed as vicars etc - it just needs people who believe in the justness of their cause . 

 

 

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NUST are not and never should be a protest group, they are going about things the right way if a bit too quietly. But I would like them to align with fan trusts and groups of other clubs and somehow come together to demonstrate that we all want our game, sport and clubs back etc.

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