Optimistic Nut Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Souness made his own problems, he can't blame Robson for them. He was given enough money to improve an already strong squad, instead he decimated it. Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but I don't remember too many complaints at the time when we replaced Bellamy with Owen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
quayside Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 If Robson hadn't crazily sold Solano, leaving him with Bowyer who was never a winger, and two kids not quite ready (Ambrose & Milner), then maybe Souness wouldn't have had to play Bellamy out there. I thought the problem was more that when Shearer was injured Souness played Kluivert and Bellamy up top and they were very effective. Shearer came back from his injury and Souness tried to fit the three of them into a starting line up somehow. Bellamy was (typically) fairly vocal about the fact that he thought he and Kluivert were the best option the club had as strikers, so it was only a matter of time before he was shown the door. He always leads with his gob but he's played out wide for Citeh a few times without complaint so, as Tron said, he can be managed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Bellamy had started spitting his dummy out even under Robson though. Remember after the Norwich home game where he said live on Sky about the Rooney potential transfer, "Craig Bellamy has to think about what's best for Craig Bellamy". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
quayside Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Remember it well - SBR responded by publicly reminding Bellamy that he had a contract with Newcastle. Dirty linen being shown for all the world to see sadly. So take your point. I don't think Bellamy has ever stepped out of line whist Hughes was managing him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Bellamy had started spitting his dummy out even under Robson though. Remember after the Norwich home game where he said live on Sky about the Rooney potential transfer, "Craig Bellamy has to think about what's best for Craig Bellamy". The difference is Robson could handle it. Like I said earlier you are always going to get the likes of Bellamy letting his mouth go, doesn't mean you have to chuck him out of the club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magorific Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Bellamy a better servant for Newcastle than Given? Now I've heard everything. Anyone fancy pushing a pregnant lass down a flight of stairs or throwing a chair at the assistant manager? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 When it gets to the point where a player is feigning injury to prove a point about where he wants to play though, you have to draw a line somewhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Saying all this though, I'd have him back here in a flash. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Bellamy a better servant for Newcastle than Given? Now I've heard everything. Anyone fancy pushing a pregnant lass down a flight of stairs or throwing a chair at the assistant manager? Bellamy didn't want to leave, Given did. By all means revel in your Given worship just don't get miffed if everyone lese doesn't want to join in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benwell Lad Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Bellamy a better servant for Newcastle than Given? Now I've heard everything. Anyone fancy pushing a pregnant lass down a flight of stairs or throwing a chair at the assistant manager? Bellamy didn't want to leave, Given did. By all means revel in your Given worship just don't get miffed if everyone lese doesn't want to join in. Added to that, Bellamy's departure had a huge impact on the team (and possibly the club) and has never been replaced. Given's (voluntary) departure has made virtually no difference whatsoever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedro111 Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Still cant believe we let Given go to the richest club in the world for the price of a mixup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Still cant believe we let Given go to the richest club in the world for the price of a mixup. But reading back through this thread it made no/little difference so it is in effect money for nothing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stephen927 Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Heart...breaking.......soul...destroyed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 If either Given or Bellamy thought that Hughes would be at City long term then they're idiots. Anyway, what will happen to them? They'll both get luctractive transfers to other premiership clubs, I imagine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 If either Given or Bellamy thought that Hughes would be at City long term then they're idiots. Anyway, what will happen to them? They'll both get luctractive transfers to other premiership clubs, I imagine. They'll both keep stay and quietly collect their pay packets I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Bellamy a better servant for Newcastle than Given? Now I've heard everything. Anyone fancy pushing a pregnant lass down a flight of stairs or throwing a chair at the assistant manager? Bellamy didn't want to leave, Given did. By all means revel in your Given worship just don't get miffed if everyone lese doesn't want to join in. No, lil Craig just thought it was a lot more fun to fake an injury rather than go about it the correct way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 I'd love to see Bellamy back at SJP, really like him (as a footballer, not as a person!). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alan Shearer 9 Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 They can both fuck off and have a kickabout in Hughe's garden Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 I imagine both are being paid huge salaries which no other club will be able or want to match. I'd take Bellamy back. It's a risk, due to his chippy personality, but he was such a good player for us. Barton might be able to put him in his place in the training ground. As for Given, no. He put himself before his team-mates. He should have waited till the end of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 I imagine both are being paid huge salaries which no other club will be able or want to match. I'd take Bellamy back. It's a risk, due to his chippy personality, but he was such a good player for us. Barton might be able to put him in his place in the training ground. As for Given, no. He put himself before his team-mates. He should have waited till the end of the season. Could you not argue the same about Bellamy a) for threatening to leave if we'd signed Rooney and b) not playing in a different position when the manager felt it was for the good of the team? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thespence Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 Doubt I can ever forgive hunchback after those texts still at least 1 Newcastle fan who was at Cardiff that day got a little bit of revenge by giving the cunt 2 yellows the other week. NICE ONE CLATTS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzieMandias Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 I don't think Bellamy would want to come back anyway. Not that many clubs left for him if he leaves Man City. I can't see him at Man U, or imagine him thriving under 'Arry at Spurs. Wenger wouldn't want him. Maybe Villa? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest toonlass Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 I don't think Bellamy would want to come back anyway. Not that many clubs left for him if he leaves Man City. I can't see him at Man U, or imagine him thriving under 'Arry at Spurs. Wenger wouldn't want him. Maybe Villa? I couldn't see Bellamy coming back here. There are premiership clubs he would go to first. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 I imagine both are being paid huge salaries which no other club will be able or want to match. I'd take Bellamy back. It's a risk, due to his chippy personality, but he was such a good player for us. Barton might be able to put him in his place in the training ground. As for Given, no. He put himself before his team-mates. He should have waited till the end of the season. Could you not argue the same about Bellamy a) for threatening to leave if we'd signed Rooney and b) not playing in a different position when the manager felt it was for the good of the team? Well for sure, Bellamy was no angel. He got too big for his boots so perhaps some kind of parting of the ways was inevitable. On one level though, I accept Bellamy for who he is, as Sir Bob did. Given on the other hand.... He could have stayed the season out. He just wanted to grab the opportunity of joining a bigger club in case the chance disappeared later on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incognito Posted December 22, 2009 Share Posted December 22, 2009 So when will Shay get his move to a bigger club? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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