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A US soldier in Afghanistan has killed at least 16 civilians and wounded five after entering their homes in Kandahar province, senior local officials say.

 

He left his military base in the early hours of the morning and opened fire in at least two homes; women and children were among the dead.

 

Nato said it was investigating the "deeply regrettable incident".

 

Anti-US sentiment is already high in Afghanistan after US soldiers burnt copies of the Koran last month.

 

US officials have apologised repeatedly for the incident at a Nato base in Kabul, but they failed to quell a series of protests and attacks that killed at least 30 people and six US troops.

 

Local people have reportedly gathered near the base in Panjwai district to protest about Sunday's killings, and the US embassy is advising against travel to the area.

 

Lt Gen Adrian Bradshaw, deputy commander of Nato-led forces, said he was unable to "explain the motivation behind such callous acts", adding that "our thoughts and prayers are with those caught in this tragedy".

 

'Propaganda victory'

 

The soldier has not been named, but is thought to be a staff sergeant.

 

He is reported to have walked off his base at around 03:00 local time (22:30 GMT Saturday) and headed to nearby villages, moving methodically from house to house.

 

"Eleven members of my family are dead. They are all dead," Haji Samad, an elder from Najeeban village, told the AFP news agency.

 

Haji Sayed Jan, from Alkozai village, was quoted by the AFP as saying: "My home was attacked and I lost four family members".

 

A delegation from the provincial governor's office has arrived in the village to determine exactly what happened, a spokesman said.

 

The soldier - who had reportedly suffered a breakdown before the attacks - is said to have handed himself over to the US military authorities after carrying out the killings.

 

The Nato-led International Security Assistance Force (Isaf) said in a statement that US officials in Afghanistan would work with their Afghan counterparts to investigate what happened.

 

This is the first time Afghan civilians have been targeted by foreign soldiers in this way, the BBC's Quentin Sommerville reports from Kabul.

 

However, a US soldier was convicted last year on three counts of premeditated murder after leading a rogue "kill team" in Afghanistan.

 

Before Sunday's killings, relations between international forces and the Afghan people were already at an all-time low following the accidental burning of the Koran by US soldiers last month, our correspondent adds.

 

A senior Afghan intelligence official called the latest attack a "propaganda victory for the Taliban".

 

Kandahar is the Taliban's spiritual heartland and is considered strategically important because of its international airport, its agricultural and industrial output and its position as one of the country's main trading hubs.

 

The province has seen heavy fighting between Nato and Taliban forces over the last five years.

 

Afghan President Hamid Karzai said in a speech on Sunday that his government still expects to sign a strategic partnership with the United States in the next couple of months.

 

In a televised speech, he said discussions would continue on the precise role the US will play in Afghanistan after Nato hands over security responsibility to Kabul at the end of 2014.

 

On Friday, Kabul and Washington reached a deal to transfer US-run prisons in the country to Afghan control.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-17330205

 

Fucking hell.

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Fuck sake, some giant steps backwards in relations there.

 

The guy was suffering from some sort of nervous/mental breakdown, it's not exactly been a recurring theme since they landed - are we going to judge the entire American army by the actions of one individual?

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Fuck sake, some giant steps backwards in relations there.

 

The guy was suffering from some sort of nervous/mental breakdown, it's not exactly been a recurring theme since they landed - are we going to judge the entire American army by the actions of one individual?

 

I'm sure he's not tainting the whole force with the same brush, but he's right. Huge set back at a very tough time. It's not like they don't have previous.

 

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Fuck sake, some giant steps backwards in relations there.

 

The guy was suffering from some sort of nervous/mental breakdown, it's not exactly been a recurring theme since they landed - are we going to judge the entire American army by the actions of one individual?

 

This is actually a recurring theme.

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Don't think I've seen any other spree killing (iraqi interpreters shooting up their base, virginia tech etc) where "after apparently suffering a mental breakdown" was repeated every time someone mentions what the guy did before the amount of victims are even known, never mind his motivations.

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Fuck sake, some giant steps backwards in relations there.

 

The guy was suffering from some sort of nervous/mental breakdown, it's not exactly been a recurring theme since they landed - are we going to judge the entire American army by the actions of one individual?

 

We may not have to

 

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/11/us-afghanistan-civilians-idUSBRE82A02V20120311

Western forces shot dead 16 civilians including nine children in southern Kandahar province on Sunday, Afghan officials said, in a rampage that witnesses said was carried out by American soldiers who were laughing and appeared drunk.

 

Witnesses told Reuters they saw a group of U.S. soldiers arrive at their village in Kandahar's Panjwayi district at around 2 am, enter homes and open fire.
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Fuck sake, some giant steps backwards in relations there.

 

The guy was suffering from some sort of nervous/mental breakdown, it's not exactly been a recurring theme since they landed - are we going to judge the entire American army by the actions of one individual?

 

We may not have to

 

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/03/11/us-afghanistan-civilians-idUSBRE82A02V20120311

Western forces shot dead 16 civilians including nine children in southern Kandahar province on Sunday, Afghan officials said, in a rampage that witnesses said was carried out by American soldiers who were laughing and appeared drunk.

 

Witnesses told Reuters they saw a group of U.S. soldiers arrive at their village in Kandahar's Panjwayi district at around 2 am, enter homes and open fire.

Bloody hell it gets worse if true  :kasper:
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f*** sake, some giant steps backwards in relations there.

 

The guy was suffering from some sort of nervous/mental breakdown, it's not exactly been a recurring theme since they landed - are we going to judge the entire American army by the actions of one individual?

 

Yes. That's the whole point. They're there as a group. They are fully responsible for the action of each and every one of their soldiers. They take the cheers as a group and the blame as the group.

 

They failed to spot a guy who was clearly mentally unstable (not surprising as the guy probably just seemed hyped up on the usual motivational s****...just like most of them). But it's their fault. End of.

 

Add this to the burning of the Koran :rolleyes:

 

Remember the other s**** too. One of their own is looking at treason for showing the world what the white angels get up to.

 

Ironic that you should say not to judge a whole army over one person's actions when a relatively small group of loons bomb the WTC and a whole country gets it in the neck. Well, suck it up...it works both ways.

 

What does?  I'm pretty sure Stu wasn't in charge of invading Iraq/Afghanistan so how does it work both ways with him?  He's just asking a reasonable question and you get all aggro.  You're trying to make him defend a decision he had no part in making. 

 

Nice rhetoric and cool straw man argument though bro.  You really showed him.

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Fuck sake, some giant steps backwards in relations there.

 

The guy was suffering from some sort of nervous/mental breakdown, it's not exactly been a recurring theme since they landed - are we going to judge the entire American army by the actions of one individual?

 

This is actually a recurring theme.

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f*** sake, some giant steps backwards in relations there.

 

The guy was suffering from some sort of nervous/mental breakdown, it's not exactly been a recurring theme since they landed - are we going to judge the entire American army by the actions of one individual?

 

Yes. That's the whole point. They're there as a group. They are fully responsible for the action of each and every one of their soldiers. They take the cheers as a group and the blame as the group.

 

They failed to spot a guy who was clearly mentally unstable (not surprising as the guy probably just seemed hyped up on the usual motivational s****...just like most of them). But it's their fault. End of.

 

Add this to the burning of the Koran :rolleyes:

 

Remember the other s**** too. One of their own is looking at treason for showing the world what the white angels get up to.

 

Ironic that you should say not to judge a whole army over one person's actions when a relatively small group of loons bomb the WTC and a whole country gets it in the neck. Well, suck it up...it works both ways.

 

What does?  I'm pretty sure Stu wasn't in charge of invading Iraq/Afghanistan so how does it work both ways with him?  He's just asking a reasonable question and you get all aggro.  You're trying to make him defend a decision he had no part in making. 

 

Nice rhetoric and cool straw man argument though bro.  You really showed him.

 

What the f*** are you going on about? Who's agro? YOU! :lol:

 

Stu made a comment which led to me commenting. It's a discussion FFS. What the f*** has "Stu wasn't in charge" blah blah got to do with anything? :lol: I was pointing out the irony of what was probably a devils advocate question.  :-*

 

I guess only other people are allowed to comment :rolleyes:

 

Don't worry...I wasn't picking on your boyfriend, personally. Touchy fucka! :p

 

Edit: Sorry if I blamed you for invading Iraq/Afghanistan, Stu :smitten:

 

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Before Sunday's killings, relations between international forces and the Afghan people were already at an all-time low following the accidental burning of the Koran by US soldiers last month, our correspondent adds.

 

Yeah, right.

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Americans must breed their killing machines a little mentally stronger, or a lot more stealthier. Leave no witnesses, that's their mistake. Bring out the napalm.

 

Nah, need nukes.  Can never be too careful.  Also, cover up the license plate of the nuke with cardboard that way it can't be traced back.

 

Dexter would approve.

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Americans must breed their killing machines a little mentally stronger, or a lot more stealthier. Leave no witnesses, that's their mistake. Bring out the napalm.

 

Nah, need nukes.  Can never be too careful.  Also, cover up the license plate of the nuke with cardboard that way it can't be traced back.

 

Dexter would approve.

 

Suppose if they nuke it they could always blame Iran. Surprised Israel haven't thought of it and made the USA do it already.

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Before Sunday's killings, relations between international forces and the Afghan people were already at an all-time low following the accidental burning of the Koran by US soldiers last month, our correspondent adds.

 

Yeah, right.

 

:lol:

 

"Oh shit so petrol IS flammable!?"

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