BlufPurdi Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 I used to be a staunch royalist becuse of the heritage and Tourist attraction. Then I read something by Robbie Coltrane about standing in line to meet one of them and he suddenly thought that their DNA was no better than his. From that time I stopped being an apologist. Same with myself. Used to love belting out God Save the Queen, pissed, on an England night. Then I grew up and thought about it for a minute. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlufPurdi Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Make us more money than they cost so don't care. Shouldn't really matter. Hereditary privilege is absolutely wrong in this day and age. I couldn't care less if they made us billions upon billions, it's still wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 what happens to them if we boot them out and take everything? Will Theresa May stick them in a council house in Slough? Will we see old Lizzy outside Bargain Booze with a tab having swapped her Corgi's for a Staffy? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEMTEX Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Make us more money than they cost so don't care. Shouldn't really matter. Hereditary privilege is absolutely wrong in this day and age. I couldn't care less if they made us billions upon billions, it's still wrong. Personally I'm much more bothered about whether they benefit the nation. Don't really care if one family happens to benefit because of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BooBoo Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Meh, they're alright. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Castle and stately home tourism in Germany is a big money spinner, but they don't need real Royals padding around inside them to make it work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Northerngimp Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 I still haven't seen a good argument to get rid. They have no power anymore, its just ceremonial stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 God Save The Queen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 God Save The Queen don't think Hatem cares much for the monarchy tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spider Jerusalem Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Apparently cost us 65p a year. Two holidays in the past two years they're already in credit. Should get some extra days off when Lizzie karks it and Willy gets crowned. They're the gift that keeps on giving. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlufPurdi Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 I still haven't seen a good argument to get rid. They have no power anymore, its just ceremonial stuff. The fact we're all being made to face austerity measures should quite simply be enough, but: http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/king-size-costs-european-crisis-puts-new-spotlight-on-monarchies-spending/2012/08/23/073cdb78-e0cc-11e1-a19c-fcfa365396c8_story_1.html http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2012/aug/31/secret-royal-veto-powers-exposed?fb=native&CMP=FBCNETTXT9038 We wonder why no decent laws ever get passed? "If I were reincarnated, I would wish to be returned to Earth as a killer virus to lower human population levels." - Prince Phillip. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlufPurdi Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Wish I could find GM's mega-post about having a Federal Republic from years ago. Best post on the subject pretty much anywhere on the internet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Nothing we do will change it. So no point in worrying about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlufPurdi Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 I know, but still, it's good to talk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 They only pay voluntary tax. Boom! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haz Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 Charles has to pay tax on revenue (I think) from the duchy of Lancaster and Cornwall. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 Meh, couldn't give a shit. Besides which, the recent Diamond Jubilee and the Olympics and the pomp that surrounded them showed what good the monarchy are for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 Details of the trips emerged in the annual Royal Public Finance Report, which lays bare how much the Queen gets from the public purse over the year 2011-2012 and how she spends it. Official expenditure rose marginally to £32.3million – up £200,000 or 0.6 of a per cent. But Buckingham Palace aides stressed that they had actually realised a 26 per cent reduction in spending over the last three years in real terms. They say the monarchy costs just 52p a head for every man, woman and child in the country – although this does not include the estimated £200million bill for security." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingkerouac Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 Except people don't go to Camden to see the residents or look at their houses. I live 2 doors down from where Winehouse lived and died. We get upwards of 300 visitors a day, to our street. Always from Latin America, Europe, Ex-Soviet states. You name it. The Stable Market where The Clash rehearsed and shot the iconic cover of their first LP. The Roundhouse where The Ramones kickstarted UK punk...I could go on, but of course these places will never achieve the heights of an over elaborate mansion for a German family in South London And I believe Winehouse paid all of her taxes... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 Prince William and his wife Kate spent an incredible £52,000 on a one-way flight from Los Angeles to London for themselves and their seven-strong entourage, Buckingham Palace said today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
indi Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 I'm all for reigning ( ) in the scale of the monarchy, getting rid of all the lesser royals and the assorted hangers-on and I'm not a supporter of hereditary power in itself, however I think it's still the best option to keep the King/Queen as head of state. The biggest single reason is just how uber-shit the alternative is. Ask yourself what group you hate even more than the royals and I bet my arse that for most people, even the republicans, politicians is the word that springs to mind. So why would you want even more of them with even more power to fuck our lives up, for fuck's sake!?! Our politics is already fucking pathetic and having a president would only accelerate that exponentially, putting us over-the-top and well and truly into La-la land like you see in the states. I can't imagine anything worse myself, it'd be fucking awful, I think I'd have to leave to be honest. A constitutional monarchy with a ceremonial head of state, is the least worst option by some way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 Poet - Warrior - King is the best way man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cp40 Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 I would lock you bunch of fucking traitors in the Tower. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 If UK had been a republic, there's a pretty damn good chance that Maggie Tatcher wound up as Head of State at some point. Think of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GM Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 If UK had been a republic, there's a pretty damn good chance that Maggie Tatcher wound up as Head of State at some point. Think of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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