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The National Security Agency has obtained direct access to the systems of Google, Facebook, Apple and other US internet giants, according to a top secret document obtained by the Guardian.

 

The NSA access is part of a previously undisclosed program called PRISM, which allows officials to collect material including search history, the content of emails, file transfers and live chats, the document says.

 

The Guardian has verified the authenticity of the document, a 41-slide PowerPoint presentation – classified as top secret with no distribution to foreign allies – which was apparently used to train intelligence operatives on the capabilities of the program. The document claims "collection directly from the servers" of major US service providers.

 

Although the presentation claims the program is run with the assistance of the companies, all those who responded to a Guardian request for comment on Thursday denied knowledge of any such program.  :frantic: :whistle:

 

 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/06/us-tech-giants-nsa-data

 

No surprise.

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Obama and clapper have both basically admitted it.

 

and despite what Zuckerberg and and Page have said, their statements were carefully worded enough to not necessarily contradict this...

 

Executives at some of the participating companies, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, acknowledged the system’s existence and said it was used to share information about foreign customers with the NSA and other parts of the nation’s intelligence community.

 

These executives said PRISM was created after much negotiation with federal authorities, who had pressed for easier access to data they were entitled to under previous orders granted by the secret FISA court.

 

One top-secret document obtained by The Post described it as “Collection directly from the servers of these U.S. Service Providers: Microsoft, Yahoo, Google, Facebook, PalTalk, AOL, Skype, YouTube, Apple.”

 

Intelligence community sources said that this description, although inaccurate from a technical perspective, matches the experience of analysts at the NSA. From their workstations anywhere in the world, government employees cleared for PRISM access may “task” the system and receive results from an Internet company without further interaction with the company’s staff.

 

Anyone still thinking this is a conspiracy theory hasn't been paying enough attention.

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Washington Post made retractions because of Greenwald's wording proved to be inaccurate.  All of the companies deny the direct access claim in separate statements.

 

Google wrote, “Indeed, the U.S. government does not have direct access or a “back door” to the information stored in our data centers. We had not heard of a program called PRISM until yesterday.”

 

Greenwald claimed on Twitter “collection directly from the servers of these US service providers: Microsoft, Yahoo, Google, Facebook…” But this could mean that the data was drawn from the servers, vetted and handed over to the NSA per Google’s stated process of legal vetting.

 

 

Doesn't mean nothing fishy is going on.  Could well be thought that wording was used in a misleading manner.

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Are you talking about this line...

 

Intelligence community sources said that this description, although inaccurate from a technical perspective, matches the experience of analysts at the NSA. From their workstations anywhere in the world, government employees cleared for PRISM access may “task” the system and receive results from an Internet company without further interaction with the company’s staff.

 

Because that was in the Post article from the get-go.

 

...and is only a clarification of sematics and technicalities.  Not a retraction.

 

NSA equipment is used on the company premises to filter the information.  NSA operatives access that equipment to pull the data.

 

The companies themselves have no view of what queries are being made on the NSA equipment.

 

"Direct access" to the company servers is where Zuckerberg and co have issued denials using technicalities.

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ahh, oops.  Here's one.  Not that I take this as gospel either, but the Washington Post did change its wording slightly.  There are others like it popping up all over the internet.  To backtrack a little, after seeing my initial post, saying there are "major retractions" was bullshit on my part.  Oops again :)

 

http://thedailybanter.com/2013/06/nsa-story-falling-apart-under-scrutiny-key-facts-turning-out-to-be-inaccurate/

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While the details of the means of access are important, for me the basic questions come down to whether we should be in the position of relying on secret FISA courts operating on an entirely ex parte basis and whether we should be in the position of trusting the NSA not to use its powers to target citizens. The answer to both questions is a resounding no.

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