The College Dropout Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 As Spurs - how do you improve on the first team? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Figures 1-0 Football Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 The first team isn't really the issue, it's the players that they have as backup. Rose was spot on, if his comments are accurate. Up front being a key point - if Kane gets injured, their backup options are atrocious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 As Spurs - how do you improve on the first team? Some creative help for Eriksen and a pacy forward of the level of someone like Sanchez, trouble is the players that would improve them are highly unlikely to want to join them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sho Time Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 Surprised Spurs didn't go in for Sandro Ramirez tbh, he would have been excellent back-up to Kane. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottish Mag Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4777866/Brighton-sign-Club-Brugge-winger-Jose-Izquierdo-16m.html Brighton breaking their transfer record for the 2nd time in a week and we are trawling the bargain basement and begging for players on loan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 As Spurs - how do you improve on the first team? Some creative help for Eriksen and a pacy forward of the level of someone like Sanchez, trouble is the players that would improve them are highly unlikely to want to join them. This is my point. Barkley can improve squad depth but that's about it. Can't think of anyone they could really sign, people rate that Seri fella highly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 Spurs need a high quality version of Remy. Someone who'd be a regular to start on one of the flanks but can start as a centre-forward if Kane's out or needs rested. Fuck knows who that might be like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Swift Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 Son is that player. And he's the perfect player for that role. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylor Swift Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 If Kane was out for the season, Son would get around 20 goals, IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 If Kane was out for the season, Son would get around 20 goals, IMO. He almost does playing in his own role, if he didn't get injured. Fantastic player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 And they would finished 5th max, it's not about how many goals you score but when you score them. Kane's importance to Spurs is far more than just the number he puts in the stats column. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 It sort of is about how many goals you score as well though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 And they would finished 5th max, it's not about how many goals you score but when you score them. Kane's importance to Spurs is far more than just the number he puts in the stats column. That's kinda the point though. There isn't another "Kane" out there ready to just sit on the bench. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiedean Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 How many clubs in the premier league have not broken their transfer record for 12 years or so?.....ill give you a clue Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 It sort of is about how many goals you score as well though Not really. Aguero scored 20 in 31 last year which numbers wise is a pretty good season by most peoples standards, but none of it actually mattered and was probably one of his worse seasons performance wise. Son probably would score 20+ goals for Spurs if Kane was out the whole season, but what would it mean for Spurs overall success as a team? probably not that much tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 A French player surely hasn't gone on strike to force a move. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 What's Rose done wrong? Sounds like he just wants what a player of his ability should be earning. I think your choice of words is useful. It's not that he is wrong, but that he's done wrong. The week before the season, he/his agent has/have gone to the Sun and vented. There's a lot of truth in what he says, but it looks shitty, particularly as some of what he says could be viewed as dissing a lot of his teammates. He signed a new contract a year ago that ties him until 2021. Any suggestion that he's underpaid should be viewed with that in mind. There's absolutely no way on Earth that he's on 30Kpw. There's some suggestion that because he's been injured for so long that he might have missed out on a lot of bonuses, which is possible. It all comes down to the same thing again. There are five English clubs with revenue that is at least 100M more than ours. We have a fair few players who are as good as or better than their counterparts at those clubs. If the market rate is set by Man U, Man C, Chelsea, Barca etc then sure, our players are underpaid. If you want the best footballers to be at the "best" clubs and paid "the going rate", then bully for you, just don't whinge about the CL or FFP etc etc. You just want different things from football than me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole_Toonfan Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 Disappointing but not exactly unexpected sadly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 What's Rose done wrong? Sounds like he just wants what a player of his ability should be earning. I think your choice of words is useful. It's not that he is wrong, but that he's done wrong. The week before the season, he/his agent has/have gone to the Sun and vented. There's a lot of truth in what he says, but it looks shitty, particularly as some of what he says could be viewed as dissing a lot of his teammates. He signed a new contract a year ago that ties him until 2021. Any suggestion that he's underpaid should be viewed with that in mind. There's absolutely no way on Earth that he's on 30Kpw. There's some suggestion that because he's been injured for so long that he might have missed out on a lot of bonuses, which is possible. It all comes down to the same thing again. There are five English clubs with revenue that is at least 100M more than ours. We have a fair few players who are as good as or better than their counterparts at those clubs. If the market rate is set by Man U, Man C, Chelsea, Barca etc then sure, our players are underpaid. If you want the best footballers to be at the "best" clubs and paid "the going rate", then bully for you, just don't whinge about the CL or FFP etc etc. You just want different things from football than me. I have no qualms about players going for the "going rate". You do it, I do it, everyone does. But I don't like how Rose has gone about things at all. Speaks a lot about him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 What's Rose done wrong? Sounds like he just wants what a player of his ability should be earning. I think your choice of words is useful. It's not that he is wrong, but that he's done wrong. The week before the season, he/his agent has/have gone to the Sun and vented. There's a lot of truth in what he says, but it looks shitty, particularly as some of what he says could be viewed as dissing a lot of his teammates. He signed a new contract a year ago that ties him until 2021. Any suggestion that he's underpaid should be viewed with that in mind. There's absolutely no way on Earth that he's on 30Kpw. There's some suggestion that because he's been injured for so long that he might have missed out on a lot of bonuses, which is possible. It all comes down to the same thing again. There are five English clubs with revenue that is at least 100M more than ours. We have a fair few players who are as good as or better than their counterparts at those clubs. If the market rate is set by Man U, Man C, Chelsea, Barca etc then sure, our players are underpaid. If you want the best footballers to be at the "best" clubs and paid "the going rate", then bully for you, just don't whinge about the CL or FFP etc etc. You just want different things from football than me. Just because you can't compete financially with the top clubs doesn't mean you can't spend money at all Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 Brighton did nothing until this week though, the fees are impressive but the signings aren't. And Danny Rose is spot on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xLiaaamx Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 Sigurdsson not involved for Swansea this weekend. Think they'll be pretty awful without him. Edit; In here because he's supposed to be on the way out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
leffe186 Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 What's Rose done wrong? Sounds like he just wants what a player of his ability should be earning. I think your choice of words is useful. It's not that he is wrong, but that he's done wrong. The week before the season, he/his agent has/have gone to the Sun and vented. There's a lot of truth in what he says, but it looks shitty, particularly as some of what he says could be viewed as dissing a lot of his teammates. He signed a new contract a year ago that ties him until 2021. Any suggestion that he's underpaid should be viewed with that in mind. There's absolutely no way on Earth that he's on 30Kpw. There's some suggestion that because he's been injured for so long that he might have missed out on a lot of bonuses, which is possible. It all comes down to the same thing again. There are five English clubs with revenue that is at least 100M more than ours. We have a fair few players who are as good as or better than their counterparts at those clubs. If the market rate is set by Man U, Man C, Chelsea, Barca etc then sure, our players are underpaid. If you want the best footballers to be at the "best" clubs and paid "the going rate", then bully for you, just don't whinge about the CL or FFP etc etc. You just want different things from football than me. Just because you can't compete financially with the top clubs doesn't mean you can't spend money at all Not sure what your argument is. We already have the sixth highest wage bill, roughly in line with revenue. If you mean that we should be spending money on new players then sure, but we come up against the same problem - the players we would like to get to improve our team are players who the big guys want, and they blow us out of the water with the fees and wages they can afford. For example, we were supposedly on the verge of signing Juan Foyth, a young Argentinian centre-back. Then PSG got involved. Game over, and not for the first time. Hopefully the new stadium will help us bridge the gap...eventually...but we still need to pay for it as well which clouds the issue. Levy was quoted a while back saying something like building the stadium will not affect squad development, but that just sounds like bullshit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-4777866/Brighton-sign-Club-Brugge-winger-Jose-Izquierdo-16m.html Brighton breaking their transfer record for the 2nd time in a week and we are trawling the bargain basement and begging for players on loan. One I had hoped we'd be in for, but can't complain at Murphy/Kenedy instead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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