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Nice of us to bother pressing for the magic 10 for once. Always annoys me seeing Germany put 13 or 14 past these lot whilst we declare on 5 or 6.

 

Feel like Abraham's been badly done here and his ruled out header was never a foul as well as the bizarre one given to rule put the Bellingham goal.

 

 

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56 minutes ago, Yorkie said:

 

I think Dixon's absolutely sound tbh. Just inoffensive. 

 

Would love to see us hit double figures, be good craic. 

Never got over Ginola! He rarely comes across as a giant c*** since retirement as you say, likewise shoe on the other foot I'd likely have no problem with our players doing what he and the other Arsenal players did that day! 

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Bland as fuck England. Hard to get any excitement from them until the latter stages of a tournament.

 

Fans are shite and songs are shite. We probably have like 3/4k who are genuinely proper England fans who know their shit. 

 

A lot of the rest are either like me, or are band wagon jumping dickheads who toss pints for no reason other than to be #Lads and frankly it's just a bit, well, urgh.

 

Well, I got that off my chest... 

 

Scotland on the other hand... 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Heron said:

Bland as fuck England. Hard to get any excitement from them until the latter stages of a tournament.

 

Fans are shite and songs are shite. We probably have like 3/4k who are genuinely proper England fans who know their shit. 

 

A lot of the rest are either like me, or are band wagon jumping dickheads who toss pints for no reason other than to be #Lads and frankly it's just a bit, well, urgh.

 

Well, I got that off my chest... 

 

Scotland on the other hand... 

 

 

 

Agree with all this..apart from scotland/tartan army. Bunch of bellends anarl

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36 minutes ago, Heron said:

Just think they're a lot more unified in their Scottishness and just having a good time. Seems too forced with England.

Unified in their hate for all things English. I'm married to a glasweigan and have found the rangers/celtic sides far less bitter and twisted towards me than the tartan army types

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12 hours ago, OoOGazOoO said:

 

And San Marino's -45, poor chuffers!

Kind of admire them in a way....everyone knows you're not International footballers, you know before you even start you're going to be bent over and s***ged. Everyone knows you will go back to your real job after the match.

 

But if i lived in a place that small with so few options, I'd happily jump at the chance to be called up no matter how embarrassing it might be.

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It's always been about the journey with Southgate's England so, whether you like him or not, it makes total sense to provide clarity and a certainty that he's the manager for the foreseeable; reaffirming that sense of this being a long game. Instability going into the World Cup wouldn't help anyone.

 

We're not wedded to the prospect, either. If the team performs badly or even just underachieves in Qatar, they'll probably just sack him. 

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Think he’s done well enough at the previous two tournaments to fail hard in Qatar and still get the Euros in 2024 tbh.

 

Not everyone will be pleased because he’s pragmatic but he’s shown signs of wanting to change that a bit since the Euros imo.

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We’ve already achieved nearly as much as any national team can possibly achieve. We could win a tournament, but that might come down to a single performance or a single incident more than the manager. 
 

It’s a weird job being a national coach, he seems quite good at it. He’s certainly transformed the England brand and the culture around the team, which was absolutely awful before. 

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1 hour ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

We’ve already achieved nearly as much as any national team can possibly achieve. We could win a tournament, but that might come down to a single performance or a single incident more than the manager. 
 

It’s a weird job being a national coach, he seems quite good at it. He’s certainly transformed the England brand and the culture around the team, which was absolutely awful before. 

 

He has also been somewhat fortunate with the players he has at his disposable. Previous England squads have had plenty of complete arseholes and mercenaries, such as the John Terrys and the Ashley Coles etc. They were never out of the headlines, for the wrong reasons constantly.

 

Southgate seems to have a squad of model professionals like himself, in comparison to (for example) the team that Sven had.

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