BlufPurdi Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Old thread can be found in Hall of Fame: http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/index.php/topic,70147.24975.html I'll fling new polls up every now and again. Poll #1: Labour Leadership [August 2015] Andy Burnham - 17 (19.8%) Yvette Cooper - 4 (4.7%) Jeremy Corbyn - 58 (67.4%) Liz Kendall - 7 (8.1%) Total Votes: 86 N-O Says... Corbyn. Poll #2: Presuming Corbyn wins the leadership, what will Labour do? [september 2015] Unite behind their new leader, putting leadership election behind them - 11 (11.1%) Degenerate into a backstabbing mess but remain as one party - 64 (64.6%) Split in two, SDP-style - 14 (14.1%) Mount a coup - 10 (10.1%) Total Votes: 98 N-O Says... Degeneration! Poll #3: War Games [November 2015] Extend bombing run - 11 (10.9%) Extend bombing and get troops on the ground - 14 (13.9%) Go through UN, chapter 7, before any decision is made - 29 (28.7%) Leave well out of it, even if UN sanctioned - 47 (46.5%) Total Votes: 101 N-O Says... Leave well out of it! Poll #4: Next Conservative Leader [December 2015] Boris Johnson - 21 (45.7%) Teresa May - 6 (13%) George Osborne - 16 (34.8%) David Davis - 3 (6.5%) Total Votes: 46 N-O Says... Boris! Poll #5: Should Britain retain a nuclear deterrent? [July 2016] Yes - 42 (46.2%) No - 49 (53.8%) Total Votes: 91 N-O Says... NO MORE NUKES! CND Loyal. Poll #6: Labour Leadership (Part 2) [July 2016] Jeremy Corbyn - 67 (77%) Owen Smith - 20 (23%) Total Votes: 91 N-O Says... Jeremy Corbyn, again! Poll #7: Scottish Independence (Part 2) - Do you want Scotland to leave the UK [April 2017] Yes - 26 (35.1%) No - 48(64.9%) Total Votes: 74 N-O Says... Scotland must stay! Poll #8: Who will you vote for in the General Election? [May/June 2017] Conservatives - 23 (9.1%) Labour - 172 (68.3%) Other - who cares, right? Total Votes: 252 N-O Says... Labour! Link to post Share on other sites
ilikenewcastle Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 I'll be voting Burnham-Corbyn-Copper-Kendall (probably). Link to post Share on other sites
BlufPurdi Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/even-the-liberal-democrats-are-voting-against-george-osbornes-benefit-cuts-10401768.html If they vote in line with these changes I'd find it hard to endorse them ever again. Link to post Share on other sites
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 I honestly don't think any of them are that great, but I would take a year or two of Corbyn to see what happens. Even if the right-wing media hammer him, they'll have to mention him and his policies while doing it. Link to post Share on other sites
BlufPurdi Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Hopefully it would be long enough to split the party and get the New Labourers to fuck. Link to post Share on other sites
Northerngimp Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Tories taking us back in time. Link to post Share on other sites
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/even-the-liberal-democrats-are-voting-against-george-osbornes-benefit-cuts-10401768.html If they vote in line with these changes I'd find it hard to endorse them ever again. I can't for the life of me understand why Harman isn't going to town on these cuts. Labour have just been suckered by this fear of being seen as too soft on the economy. A triumph for Conservative thinking. Link to post Share on other sites
Klaus Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 The fact that I can see at least another decade of Tory rule, makes me fucking sick. Link to post Share on other sites
TheGuv Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 It's going to be an awful 10 years or so like Link to post Share on other sites
Giselle Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Why? Wages are rising faster than they have been for many years, inflation is low, the job market is tight. Link to post Share on other sites
Disco Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Because having a relatively small amount of extra quid in your pocket isn't the be all and end all for some. As was on the last thread, from the latest budget I'll get an extra <£10 per month from it. Give it to someone who needs it, I don't. Link to post Share on other sites
Giselle Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Economic prosperity is usually the cause of liberalism and social equality. That's why cities are more liberal than the rural areas. Link to post Share on other sites
BlufPurdi Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Why? Wages are rising faster than they have been for many years, inflation is low, the job market is tight. You know I respect your knowledge and all that, but this post is staggeringly unaware of what it's like for most of us that are struggling to live. They're losing out on money, regardless of wage rises. Basically since they've savaged Tax Credits, something you said the UK was right to have before they did it. Link to post Share on other sites
Troll Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Economic prosperity is usually the cause of liberalism and social equality. That's why cities are more liberal than the rural areas. I'm sure that'll be of great comfort to all the families who can't afford to pay their bills since the last budget. Link to post Share on other sites
Jimburst Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Economic prosperity is usually the cause of liberalism and social equality. That's why cities are more liberal than the rural areas. Is that why rich cunts tend to be so generous? Link to post Share on other sites
Giselle Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 Why? Wages are rising faster than they have been for many years, inflation is low, the job market is tight. You know I respect your knowledge and all that, but this post is staggeringly unaware of what it's like for most of us that are struggling to live. They're losing out on money, regardless of wage rises. Basically since they've savaged Tax Credits, something you said the UK was right to have before they did it. Yeah, that was the wrong decision. Even the Economist has said so. It doesn't mean that the economy isn't gradually improving. Link to post Share on other sites
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 'The economy' is such a vague concept though. Is the money going into the pockets of the people who need it? Link to post Share on other sites
BlufPurdi Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 An economy 'doing well' can still leave people behind, and that's the argument against the Tories. Personally never believed they wouldn't get the economy growing again, but there are far too many casualties for it to be acceptable. And just because it is doing well doesn't mean every single approach taken by the government is endorsed by this fact. Link to post Share on other sites
GM Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 BTW Bluf. Not impressed. Link to post Share on other sites
AyeDubbleYoo Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 We need better headline measures of success in a country than stuff like GDP and economic growth figures. Child poverty, number of people on below-living wage, happiness surveys, social mobility measures, percentage of income spent on essentials, etc. Link to post Share on other sites
BlufPurdi Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 BTW Bluf. Not impressed. I waited an ample amount of time. What a day, I'm just a dick to everyone. Link to post Share on other sites
GM Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 18 minutes = "an ample amount of time". Dick. Link to post Share on other sites
Toondave Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/thinking-man/11747266/Why-the-spiteful-and-stupid-foxhunting-ban-must-be-reversed.html Thoughts? Link to post Share on other sites
colinmk Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 http://yournewswire.com/australian-tv-show-exposes-britains-westminster-paedophile-scandal/ Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Open_C Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/men/thinking-man/11747266/Why-the-spiteful-and-stupid-foxhunting-ban-must-be-reversed.html Thoughts? It's a crock of shit? Lost all credibility immediately with 'i may have hunted as a child but I just can't remember', went on to ludicrously claim that some of the hunters might just be working class poverty line schmos (with the means to buy and keep a horse), goes on to further argue that farmers can't possibly keep their livestock safe (build a better fucking fence; if your infrastructure doesn't support your ambition properly then that's your fault), proceeds to suggest that there is no humane way to control foxes (protip: deer stalkers in Scotland are expert marksmen, not just locals with a 12-bore who like to kill stuff). Also doesn't acknowledge that it's illegal to set snares and not check them daily, and I have seen any number of foxes which have died pitiful and lonely and horrific deaths trapped in snares which haven't been checked for months. I haven't got a lot of time for farmers who cry hard up, alas. The rest of us don't get away with flouting laws because to observe them would be expensive and/or inconvenient, so why should they? Pathetic pro-hunting rich kid claptrap, in summary. Link to post Share on other sites
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