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UK Politics: The Tory Years - 2015-17


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What do you think will be the outcome of the General Election?  

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  1. 1. What do you think will be the outcome of the General Election?

    • Conservatives win increased majority
    • Conservatives retain small majority
    • Hung parliament
    • Labour win majority


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Old thread can be found in Hall of Fame:

 

http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/index.php/topic,70147.24975.html

 

I'll fling new polls up every now and again. 

 

 

Poll #1:  Labour Leadership [August 2015]

 

 

  • Andy Burnham - 17 (19.8%)
  • Yvette Cooper - 4 (4.7%)
  • Jeremy Corbyn - 58 (67.4%)
  • Liz Kendall - 7 (8.1%)

 

Total Votes: 86

 

N-O Says...  Corbyn.

 

 

 

Poll #2:  Presuming Corbyn wins the leadership, what will Labour do? [september 2015]

 

 

  • Unite behind their new leader, putting leadership election behind them - 11 (11.1%)
  • Degenerate into a backstabbing mess but remain as one party - 64 (64.6%)
  • Split in two, SDP-style - 14 (14.1%)
  • Mount a coup - 10 (10.1%)

 

Total Votes: 98

 

N-O Says...  Degeneration! :frantic:

 

 

 

Poll #3:  War Games [November 2015]

 

 

  • Extend bombing run - 11 (10.9%)
  • Extend bombing and get troops on the ground - 14 (13.9%)
  • Go through UN, chapter 7, before any decision is made - 29 (28.7%)
  • Leave well out of it, even if UN sanctioned - 47 (46.5%)

 

Total Votes: 101

 

N-O Says...  Leave well out of it!

 

 

 

Poll #4:  Next Conservative Leader [December 2015]

 

 

  • Boris Johnson - 21 (45.7%)
  • Teresa May - 6 (13%)
  • George Osborne - 16 (34.8%)
  • David Davis - 3 (6.5%)

 

Total Votes: 46

 

N-O Says...  Boris!

 

 

 

Poll #5:  Should Britain retain a nuclear deterrent? [July 2016]

 

 

  • Yes - 42 (46.2%)
  • No - 49 (53.8%)

 

Total Votes: 91

 

N-O Says...  NO MORE NUKES!  CND Loyal.

 

 

 

Poll #6:  Labour Leadership (Part 2) [July 2016]

 

 

  • Jeremy Corbyn - 67 (77%)
  • Owen Smith - 20 (23%)

 

Total Votes: 91

 

N-O Says...  Jeremy Corbyn, again!

 

 

 

Poll #7:  Scottish Independence (Part 2) - Do you want Scotland to leave the UK [April 2017]

 

 

  • Yes - 26 (35.1%)
  • No - 48(64.9%)

 

Total Votes: 74

 

N-O Says...  Scotland must stay!

 

 

 

Poll #8:  Who will you vote for in the General Election? [May/June 2017]

 

 

  • Conservatives - 23 (9.1%)
  • Labour - 172 (68.3%)
  • Other - who cares, right?

 

Total Votes: 252

 

N-O Says...  Labour!

 

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I can't for the life of me understand why Harman isn't going to town on these cuts. Labour have just been suckered by this fear of being seen as too soft on the economy. A triumph for Conservative thinking.

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Because having a relatively small amount of extra quid in your pocket isn't the be all and end all for some.

 

As was on the last thread, from the latest budget I'll get an extra <£10 per month from it. Give it to someone who needs it, I don't.

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Why? Wages are rising faster than they have been for many years, inflation is low, the job market is tight.

 

:nope:

 

You know I respect your knowledge and all that, but this post is staggeringly unaware of what it's like for most of us that are struggling to live.  They're losing out on money, regardless of wage rises.  Basically since they've savaged Tax Credits, something you said the UK was right to have before they did it.

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Economic prosperity is usually the cause of liberalism and social equality. That's why cities are more liberal than the rural areas.

 

I'm sure that'll be of great comfort to all the families who can't afford to pay their bills since the last budget.

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Why? Wages are rising faster than they have been for many years, inflation is low, the job market is tight.

 

:nope:

 

You know I respect your knowledge and all that, but this post is staggeringly unaware of what it's like for most of us that are struggling to live.  They're losing out on money, regardless of wage rises.  Basically since they've savaged Tax Credits, something you said the UK was right to have before they did it.

Yeah, that was the wrong decision. Even the Economist has said so.

 

It doesn't mean that the economy isn't gradually improving.

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An economy 'doing well' can still leave people behind, and that's the argument against the Tories.  Personally never believed they wouldn't get the economy growing again, but there are far too many casualties for it to be acceptable.  And just because it is doing well doesn't mean every single approach taken by the government is endorsed by this fact.

 

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We need better headline measures of success in a country than stuff like GDP and economic growth figures.

 

Child poverty, number of people on below-living wage, happiness surveys, social mobility measures, percentage of income spent on essentials, etc.

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It's a crock of shit?

 

Lost all credibility immediately with 'i may have hunted as a child but I just can't remember', went on to ludicrously claim that some of the hunters might just be working class poverty line schmos (with the means to buy and keep a horse), goes on to further argue that farmers can't possibly keep their livestock safe (build a better fucking fence; if your infrastructure doesn't support your ambition properly then that's your fault), proceeds to suggest that there is no humane way to control foxes (protip: deer stalkers in Scotland are expert marksmen, not just locals with a 12-bore who like to kill stuff).

 

Also doesn't acknowledge that it's illegal to set snares and not check them daily, and I have seen any number of foxes which have died pitiful and lonely and horrific deaths trapped in snares which haven't been checked for months.  I haven't got a lot of time for farmers who cry hard up, alas.  The rest of us don't get away with flouting laws because to observe them would be expensive and/or inconvenient, so why should they?

 

Pathetic pro-hunting rich kid claptrap, in summary.

 

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