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No I clamped down on him because he continues making a lot of smart alec comments in a thread he knows nothing about and isn't living it like I am in Hamburg and my friends are in other parts of Germany and the UK. I bear him no ill will. But will go to defcon 3 if pushed. Mouthy yanks not withstanding.  :aww:

 

That's fucking bullshit, man. I've said nothing about your experience there. I've taken issue with all the other ancillary bullshit you spout. If you want to write me off as not knowing shit about anything, I have no problem with that. Add it to all the other parts of reality you're to scare to handle without resorting to fantasy.

 

Please mate dry your eyes.

Suck me dry, you effete bag of shit.

 

Charming.

[emoji38]Admittedly not my finest series of posts. They were heartfelt, though. Got it out of my system anyway. Carry on.
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One question...Why do people actively vilify fans of nationalism and soverignty like myself, calling us all sort of names (Far Right/Neo Nazi/Racist etc)....yet being a communist/socialist/marxist/Islamist is cool and trendy?

 

How come calling hating likes of me doesn't make you full of "Bile & hate", but when someone criticize those ideologies I listed above and people who believe in them, apparently we are full of bile and hate?

 

My politics are simple. Closed borders, respect for neighbours, legal immigration if the immigrant assimilate to your culture and brings value to your society, but the ethnic majority must always be protected and their interest must come first (I do admit I prefer homogeneous societies as opposed to multicultural), people minding their own business. If only all the world followed this recipe, we'd be living the dream.

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Yeah, like the left/communism/islamists don't get vilified. :lol:

 

Nationalism turns ugly, for what it's worth.  No one bashes sovereignty at all, we're in the middle of a debate about whether we should take some of it back by leaving the EU, and there's plenty on the left that want to leave.

 

Regarding someone labelling you as hateful, it's because of your particular style.  Vitriolic, using your own past experiences with islam as a tool to condemn the rest of those that follow it, like there's no decent muslim people just genuinely trying to get a better life.  I don't recall calling anyone else on the right hateful, just that I disagree with them. 

 

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Yeah, like the left/communism/islamists don't get vilified. :lol:

 

Nationalism turns ugly, for what it's worth.  No one bashes sovereignty at all, we're in the middle of a debate about whether we should take some of it back by leaving the EU, and there's plenty on the left that want to leave.

 

Frankly, I think we are at a point with history where the opposite of nationalism is globalism. It's almost becoming either or or. And globalism, if achieved to capacity has the potential to be a never-ending tyranny under one world gov't controlled by the elite, and bankers against a faceless watched, and controlled populations.

 

Nationalism, not to be mistaken with Ultra-nationalism, is a great tool against globalist powers and interest. It's one of the reasons I like both Trump and Putin. They are both massively against the globalist agenda and that's why the globalist publications/news agencies/people utterly despise them and character-assassinate them at any chance.

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One question...Why do people actively vilify fans of nationalism and soverignty like myself, calling us all sort of names (Far Right/Neo Nazi/Racist etc)....yet being a communist/socialist/marxist/Islamist is cool and trendy?

 

It's not because you're right-wing. It's because your views are extreme, callous and entirely devoid of nuance.

 

How come calling hating likes of me doesn't make you full of "Bile & hate", but when someone criticize those ideologies I listed above and people who believe in them, apparently we are full of bile and hate?

 

"Bile and hate" is a bit much, but your posts (and your opinions) are characterised by simple-minded and strident callousness. Like this:

 

My politics are simple. Closed borders, respect for neighbours, legal immigration if the immigrant assimilate to your culture and brings value to your society, but the ethnic majority must always be protected and their interest must come first (I do admit I prefer homogeneous societies as opposed to multicultural), people minding their own business. If only all the world followed this recipe, we'd be living the dream.

 

Also racism.

 

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the sense of superior morals and culture. Rudyard Kipling pretty much was the spokesperson for Orientalism, but that was over a century ago.

 

It's depressing that after an extremely shitty century hyper-defined by ultra-nationalism (whether you are on the left or right), people would happily thumb their noses at recent history and go back down that road. You may not be ultra-nationalist in any way, Trumpet, but your posts can certainly come off that way.

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Regarding someone labelling you as hateful, it's because of your particular style.  Vitriolic, using your own past experiences with islam as a tool to condemn the rest of those that follow it, like there's no decent muslim people just genuinely trying to get a better life.  I don't recall calling anyone else on the right hateful, just that I disagree with them.

 

I have never villified Muslims in any of my posts. As I said half of my family are muslim, including my grandma. I said I am glad that off the 1.5 Billion people who are Muslim, a large majority haven't ever read the text of the book or hadith or don't try to imitate the lifestyle of the bloke that lived in 7th century. Those people are great. It's the small 2-3% who are given platform to spread their agenda in Europe and pollute minds of currently nice people and ensure the final goal of the book which is global islamic domination. European politicians can prevent that, and they should. the Wahabbi Mosques must go. Nothing good comes out of them. For future sake of Europe, and even the 97% nice Muslims. 

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and c'mon, Putin is a murderous piece of shit. I can't believe anybody could still defend him.

 

Liking someone for one aspect of their ideology seems absurd to me. And FWIW, Trump is in no way against globalization. His signature suits are made in Mexico. He is riling up the fear of the masses for votes. Fascists used that quite effectively over the first part of last century.

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Also racism.

 

So the Japanese are racist ?

 

Japan rejected over 98% of Islamic asylum applications last year, only accepting 27 case out of close to 5,000.

 

Has got to be the lowest ratio, and in your logic the most racist people on earth.

 

Racism is discrimination against another race just purely based on their skin colour when every other playing field is level. Wanting to maintain homogenous society where you respect your neighbors who are different from you is not racism. Good walls make good neighbours. and you well know by homogenous I don't mean 100% white/black. Just a healthy majority based on history of the country and their genes.

 

Angola should always have an overwhelming black majority

Sweden should always have an overwhelming white majority

 

It's not racism. It's just the way it should be.

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Regarding someone labelling you as hateful, it's because of your particular style.  Vitriolic, using your own past experiences with islam as a tool to condemn the rest of those that follow it, like there's no decent muslim people just genuinely trying to get a better life.  I don't recall calling anyone else on the right hateful, just that I disagree with them.

 

I have never villified Muslims in any of my posts. As I said half of my family are muslim, including my grandma. I said I am glad that off the 1.5 Billion people who are Muslim, a large majority haven't ever read the text of the book or hadith or don't try to imitate the lifestyle of the bloke that lived in 7th century. Those people are great. It's the small 2-3% who are given platform to spread their agenda in Europe and pollute minds of currently nice people and ensure the final goal of the book which is global islamic domination. European politicians can prevent that, and they should. the Wahabbi Mosques must go. Nothing good comes out of them. For future sake of Europe, and even the 97% nice Muslims. 

 

Pretty much the only thing I can agree with you about is the virus that is Wahhabism. the world will be a better place once that shit is thrown into the toilet of irrelevance.

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and c'mon, Putin is a murderous piece of s***. I can't believe anybody could still defend him.

 

He's no saint and has killed his fair amount of people. Still nowhere near as many as Bush/Obama have killed and have caused harm to this world and its people..

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Actually the world would be a much better place if we just fucked the living daylights out of racism. Just mix the hell out of each other. Fuck whiteness. Fuck Asianness. Fuck blackness. Throw them all into the pot of a massive orgy.

 

I say fuck racism by fucking.

 

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Also racism.

 

So the Japanese are racist ?

 

Japan rejected over 98% of Islamic asylum applications last year, only accepting 27 case out of close to 5,000.

 

Has got to be the lowest ratio, and in your logic the most racist people on earth.

 

Racism is discrimination against another race just purely based on their skin colour when every other playing field is level. Wanting to maintain homogenous society where you respect your neighbors who are different from you is not racism. Good walls make good neighbours. and you well know by homogenous I don't mean 100% white/black. Just a healthy majority based on history of the country and their genes.

 

Angola should always have an overwhelming black majority

Sweden should always have an overwhelming white majority

 

It's not racism. It's just the way it should be.

 

Why is that "the way it should be"?

 

I don't know if you don't see it, but what you're saying is predicated on the assumption that there's something inherently better in racial/ethnic purity. You sound like someone from the 17th Century.

 

And yes, Japan is very racist.

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and c'mon, Putin is a murderous piece of s***. I can't believe anybody could still defend him.

 

He's no saint and has killed his fair amount of people. Still nowhere near as many as Bush/Obama have killed and have caused harm to this world and its people..

 

You might want to ask the Chechens about that.

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Also racism.

 

So the Japanese are racist ?

 

Japan rejected over 98% of Islamic asylum applications last year, only accepting 27 case out of close to 5,000.

 

Has got to be the lowest ratio, and in your logic the most racist people on earth.

 

Racism is discrimination against another race just purely based on their skin colour when every other playing field is level. Wanting to maintain homogenous society where you respect your neighbors who are different from you is not racism. Good walls make good neighbours. and you well know by homogenous I don't mean 100% white/black. Just a healthy majority based on history of the country and their genes.

 

Angola should always have an overwhelming black majority

Sweden should always have an overwhelming white majority

 

It's not racism. It's just the way it should be.

 

How far back do you want to go with history?  And genetics for that matter? 'Way it should be' is entirely arbitrary, as is a lot of what you're saying tbh

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and c'mon, Putin is a murderous piece of s***. I can't believe anybody could still defend him.

 

He's no saint and has killed his fair amount of people. Still nowhere near as many as Bush/Obama have killed and have caused harm to this world and its people..

 

You might want to ask the Chechens about that.

in terms of sheer impact on the world, it comes nowhere to the Iraq war and Arab spring. Also Chechenyans, their current leader Ramzan Kadyrov, would not look out of place as leader of ISIS. In fact I'd be surprised if he isn't sending army there. Stalin of Chechen he's known for. Blonde Sunni (another thing that Islam is not a race) and so powerful in the area that even Putin is scared of touching him and to appease him Putin opened the biggest mosque in Europe in moscow a few months ago. Really hard to control that area, and it's taken literally an ISIS-lite leader to prevent wars in Chechen since mid 00s
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More hilarious excuses.  Conservative estimates say, since '99, at least 25,000 civilians are dead.  Other estimates take it up to 150,000, with a slightly longer timeframe.  I've stuck up for Putin and Russia a fair bit in the last few years, but stop rewriting history to fit your view point of him. 

 

Bush, Obama, are also guilty of indiscriminate killing, but it's not a trade off.  To some degree, they're all as bad as each other, but at least those two are only around for 8 years max. 

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If people just accepted that racial differences are all a product of evolution, and that cultural differences are all a product of cultural evolution, then maybe we wouldn't be obsessively in love with our own ideologies so much. And maybe nationalism could be exposed for the damage it is capable of through divisiveness and the defining of The Other. Not saying that you shouldn't have pride in your country, but look at it this way. It's the same as me supporting Newcastle or the Warriors. It's vicarious pride, exalting the achievements of others. The nation-state is just a series of imaginary lines, and a set of laws specific to that nation. Cultures are usually not so distinct. People call the US young, but it is merely a continuation of the Old World. It is not separate. Ideas evolve differently in different environments, but they permeate through borders to the point that cultural distinction now becomes tangled up in a Gordion Knot.

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More hilarious excuses.  Conservative estimates say, since '99, at least 25,000 civilians are dead.  Other estimates take it up to 150,000, with a slightly longer timeframe.  I've stuck up for Putin and Russia a fair bit in the last few years, but stop rewriting history to fit your view point of him. 

 

Bush, Obama, are also guilty of indiscriminate killing, but it's not a trade off.  To some degree, they're all as bad as each other, but at least those two are only around for 8 years max.

 

that's quite a massive "range" , almost 6 times. But as I said, considering the 1M+ lives that the Iraq war has caused, and on-going with leading to ISIS and Arab Spring....

 

Also, let's say Putin is to go. Do you know who' his oppositions?

 

- Gary Kasparov: Neo-con who says in his book he was disappointed that GWB didn't invade Iran when in power and expressed his sadness that McCain didn't win election in 2008 to spread "Democracy" and invade more countries in the middle east.

 

- Alex Navalny: vivid anti-migration campaigner,as opposed to Putin's open borders policy (imagine calling Putin "open border advocate  :lol: ). He campaigns for visas and work permits for central Asians, a financial separation of Chechnya and other Caucasian quasi states (like Dagestan) and a full border between them and the rest of Russia. Putin's propaganda media portraits him as a Nazi (sounds familiar)

 

@QM: We can argue all we want about race, races can be mixed up and who knows in 500 years, but no way I agree with cultural marxism. Cultures are different. A culture that is deep rooted to a role model that used to bang a 9 year old when he was 54, and advocates that female lives is worth half of those of a man and is so intolerant that advocates mass murder for drawing a cartoon, is in no way equal to our democratic values in the West, and one that the great fathers and ancestors fought so hard for to achieve.

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It doesn't matter what the opposition.  Democracy needs to be fluid, and it's not in Russia.  If it had a remotely fair election or political system, there'd be more them those as the opposition.  At the moment, it's fine for them to be shot instead.  Not that I'm actually saying he had a part in it, although, not that I'm saying he didn't either.  Give it a rest.  Russia is far from perfect, and most of the West is as wellt.  But I'd rather live in a multicultural (generally) liberal society that swings from the left to right, than a restricted borderline fascist society that doesn't swing at all.  I mean, you were the guy that justified their anti-gay laws for fucksake.  Just, gee it a rest.  Forgive me if I massively disagree with your view on the world.

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