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My impression was the hysteria about crime going up in London, despite the stats, were mostly driven by the far right's hatred for immigrants and Sadiq Khan. (I am not at all saying that's what is motivating people's claims here - just my impression from how the far right here and the US love to talk about how dangerous London is now cos of immigrants and a muslim mayor). I can see how the rise of e-bikes might make stealing phones more common.

 

 

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When I moved to London street muggings seemed very common, people at work and friends would report being mugged like it was normal occurrence. To me it feels like it’s become much safer since then. 
 

I wasn’t doubting the phone theft specifically going up, it’s a new trend and a new target - more crime in general. 

 

 

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Just read the article. I genuinely can't get my head around the fact that he left us just two years ago? :lol: Shelvey played games for us the season we finished 4th? :lol: Was sure he left about 5 years ago.

 

 

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2 hours ago, Kid Icarus said:

FWIW I have loads of respect for anyone who doesn't bother with politics on the grounds that they know they're not clued up enough about it. We could do with more people with that level of humility tbh. 

If only they took it a step further and didn't vote.

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Lived in London for a few years and I genuinely feel the concerns about crime seem to either be from people who have never lived here, or people from here and are raising children. If you’re an adult you’re probably removed from it all. I lived in Brixton when I moved here and there was definitely violent crime within a mile from where I lived, but I was surrounded by other ‘young professionals’ and all the places they visit, so always felt safe there. 
 

Without analysing stats in much depth, I am pretty confused by the fact crime seems to be becoming a bigger and bigger concern, yet everywhere seems to be getting gentrified also. What were all these inner city areas like years ago before all these people (like me) moved there? 

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I live in London and have done for 15 years. It doesn't seem any more crimey now than back then to me, but individual perspectives aren't that valuable I suppose. 

 

I know a couple of people who've had their phones snatched but not in the last few years. It obviously happens though. I don't think I know anyone who's scared of crime or who doesn't want to go out because of it.

 

 

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12 minutes ago, Ed Vinegar said:

I live in London and have done for 15 years. It doesn't seem any more crimey now than back then to me, but individual perspectives aren't that valuable I suppose. 

 

I know a couple of people who've had their phones snatched but not in the last few years. It obviously happens though. I don't think I know anyone who's scared of crime or who doesn't want to go out because of it.

 

 

You're not going to have a media career with that attitude.

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In my experience phone and watch theft are rife in our nations capital. 

 

I'd been in London for less than 20 mins recently and saw someone get their phone snatched by a lad on a moped at London Bridge.

A friend got her phone robbed at Oxford Circus tube recently.

A close friend got held up at knifepoint for his watch on a Marylebone street in the middle of the day.

 

Londoners just seem to accept this sort of crime as a downside of living in the city, as it's a city which clearly has a lot of upside for them. 

 

Personally I don't think it's a bad thing for people to be forced to keep their phones in their pockets in public as people on phones are a proper fucking antisocial nuisance.

Just a shame that it's street crime that's causing them to put their phones away, rather than self-awareness and respect for other people around them.

 

I don't know anyone who's had their phone or watch robbed whilst walking round Newcastle city centre during the day.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, St. Maximin said:

Lived in London for a few years and I genuinely feel the concerns about crime seem to either be from people who have never lived here, or people from here and are raising children. If you’re an adult you’re probably removed from it all. I lived in Brixton when I moved here and there was definitely violent crime within a mile from where I lived, but I was surrounded by other ‘young professionals’ and all the places they visit, so always felt safe there. 
 

Without analysing stats in much depth, I am pretty confused by the fact crime seems to be becoming a bigger and bigger concern, yet everywhere seems to be getting gentrified also. What were all these inner city areas like years ago before all these people (like me) moved there? 

it generates headlines and satiates a gullible populace (while broadening the scope for more 'policing' and repressive governance)

The worst parts of London - talking about 25yrs ago (Brixton, Hackney, Woolwich, Harrow amongst others) are  markedly different to the present day.

 

Londoner's know the truth, guess the rest of the country laps this shit up.

 

 

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The crime in London is over-emphasised because of who the Mayor is.

 

Lived in London all my life. It's no more dangerous now than it was 20 years ago. It's a lot safer for me now personally, than it was 20/25 years ago. The moped driveby phone robberies seem to have increased but is something 15+ years in the making.

 

I see lots of people casually walking around or at functions with Rolexes.

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7 minutes ago, Roids said:

it generates headlines and satiates a gullible populace (while broadening the scope for more 'policing' and repressive governance)

The worst parts of London, talking about 25yrs ago (Brixton, Hackney, Woolwich, Harrow amongst others) or so markedly different to the present day. Londoner's know the truth, guess the rest of the country laps this shit up.

 

Some very sketchy places have been cleaned up. Kings Cross is where any of our north east contingent will alight from their trains and it's a world away from what it used to be like.

 

I walked from Chalk Farm to Kings Cross along the canal at pub chucking out time a couple of weeks back and there's no way I would have done that 25 years ago.

 

But lets not pretend crime isn't rife in the big city, especially street crimes like robbing valuables off of passers by.

 

 

 

 

 

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6 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

It's incredible to think of how bad Kings Cross used to be when I first used to get the train back home :lol:

 

Indeed. I'd never even been to London until the early 90's when I went with a pal at the age of 16 and arriving at Kings Cross was an eye opener.

 

Although recently I was getting a Lime Bike from outside the station and a dude got all friendly and offered me what he described as "some sweet cocaine".

So there's still mischief to be had round there.

 

 

 

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7 minutes ago, bobbydazzla said:

 

Some very sketchy places have been cleaned up. Kings Cross is where any of our north east contingent will alight from their trains and it's a world away from what it used to be like.

 

I walked from Chalk Farm to Kings Cross along the canal at pub chucking out time a couple of weeks back and there's no way I would have done that 25 years ago.

 

But lets not pretend crime isn't rife in the big city, especially street crimes like robbing valuables off of passers by.

 

 

 

 

 

 

That's my point though, all these hotspots are nothing like they were many moons ago.


Not even at its worst have I felt unsafe in London, in more recent times it's borderline laughable to suggest so.

 

 

 

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16 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:

The 'London is a sharia law no-go danger zone full of guns' narrative does smell a lot of the political right like, I have to say. 

 

 

 

Good thing it wasn’t the sharia in London that made Jonjo move to Dubai. Would have been funny though. 

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14 minutes ago, Roids said:

That's my point though, all these hotspots are nothing like they were many moons ago.


Not even at its worst have I felt unsafe in London, in more recent times it's borderline laughable to suggest so.

 

 

 

 

 

Maybe you've just got a positive outlook or a reduced sense of danger.

 

I've felt very unsafe in London. One of my best mates lived in Brixton early 00's and she woke to find a crackhead burglar in her room in the middle of the night and on another occasion her housemate was followed home by a random who stoved his head in and robbed him at the front door.

 

Used to shit myself going to visit her. 

 

And I got wanked at in the bogs at Waterloo station. That's never happened to me anywhere else in the world and I've been to many toilets in many places.

 

Yes, London is much nicer than it was. But it's still a massive city where a fuckload of crime happens every single day of the week. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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