The Butcher Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 1 minute ago, The Prophet said: They haven't broke any rules have they? They have spent 600 million in 2 transfer windows, surely they have ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 6 minutes ago, midds said: Chelsea simply buying players to stop others from getting them at this point. Not giving a single fuck about FFP. And why should they tbh? It's toothless and the punishments for breaking it are absolutely shite, almost encouraging teams to take the piss. Said this exact same thing the other day....clearly don't give a f**k about FFP punishment as they've sold nowhere near enough to cover what they've spent since Boehly came in Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iklgizmo Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 2 hours ago, 54 said: Will be interesting to see what happens here, because Chelsea want her too, and we all know they've got money to burn!! Man u are in a decent position to qualify for the womens champions league for the first time, but they won't do it if they lose Russo now. But, she can go for a free in the summer so it's their last chance to make some money!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 (edited) I don't get what's in it for some of these players signing for Chelsea. Unless they're naive or only interested in the money/contract Edited January 30, 2023 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 2 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: They have spent 600 million in 2 transfer windows, surely they have ? Not as far as I'm aware. They've offset it against income from sales along with ludicrously long contracts. The contest lengths were a loophole that UEFA have now closed. Seems like a high risk strategy from Chelsea to circumvent FFP rules. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Kid Icarus said: I don't get what's in it for some of these players signing for Chelsea. Unless they're naive or only interested in the money/contract That's what I don't get either. Particularly up and coming players who need regular game time. I'd like to know Potter's thoughts on the whole strategy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyCisse Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 1 minute ago, The Prophet said: Not as far as I'm aware. They've offset it against income from sales along with ludicrously long contracts. The contest lengths were a loophole that UEFA have now closed. Seems like a high risk strategy from Chelsea to circumvent FFP rules. If any of them get ACLs or leg breaks and don’t come back the same they’re fucked. The wage too will bugger it if they’re looking to move them on and really only the premier league can afford those types of wages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 9 minutes ago, The Prophet said: They haven't broke any rules have they? No not yet. If they fail to reach CL they could be in a bit of trouble. That is why they have structured the deals over ridiculous amounts of time. They are playing the system right now. I think we would be heavily scrutinized though, more than Chelsea had it been us. Maybe thats just some paranoia lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deuce Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 5 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: I don't get what's in it for some of these players signing for Chelsea. Unless they're naive or only interested in the money/contract Probably a bit of both tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, RodneyCisse said: If any of them get ACLs or leg breaks and don’t come back the same they’re fucked. The wage too will bugger it if they’re looking to move them on and really only the premier league can afford those types of wages. Yep, if a couple of them are duds or long term dick notes,l they'll struggle to shift them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 Still think any formal legal challenge to FFP would have the authorities scared shit less. Any top legal team could find loads of inconsistencies loopholes which would blow out of of the water. Maybe I'm being being optimistic with that though? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 AFCB going acka Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 10 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said: I don't get what's in it for some of these players signing for Chelsea. Unless they're naive or only interested in the money/contract Job security and a top wage guaranteed for nearly all your peak years in a profession where a muscle injury at 22 can ruin you. The players would be mad not to consider it. The main issue is for the club and the long term motivation of people with such job security. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 1 minute ago, midds said: Still think any formal legal challenge to FFP would have the authorities scared shit less. Any top legal team could find loads of inconsistencies loopholes which would blow out of of the water. Maybe I'm being being optimistic with that though? It’s not really a loophole though is it, Chelsea are one of the few big six clubs who make good money back from selling players. Their current spend is allowable under FFP but long term it won’t be especially if they fail to get in the CL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pata Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, GeordieDazzler said: It’s not really a loophole though is it, Chelsea are one of the few big six clubs who make good money back from selling players. Their current spend is allowable under FFP but long term it won’t be especially if they fail to get in the CL. No team can sell enough players to stay inside the limits with this spending Edited January 30, 2023 by Pata Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamPS Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 Thing with Chelsea’s summer transfers is they spent a load of money but not on anyone that special and they overpaid massively even on the decent players (100m on koulibaly and Fofana!) - some of the outlay this time looks a bit more quality Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Pata said: No team can sell players to stay inside the limits with this spending They’ve made close to 400m odd in player sales in the past four windows. £157m in 19/20 £60m in 20/21 £124m in 21/22 £56m in 22/23 Add in you don’t have to be in profit, just under the allowable amount of losses. It’s utterly reckless and unsustainable in the long term but they aren’t breaking any of the rules at the moment. Edited January 30, 2023 by GeordieDazzler Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 19 minutes ago, midds said: Still think any formal legal challenge to FFP would have the authorities scared shit less. Any top legal team could find loads of inconsistencies loopholes which would blow out of of the water. Maybe I'm being being optimistic with that though? It encourages cartel behaviour and market domination. It looks even worse now they're starting to restrict how clubs make their revenue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infatuation Junkie Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 Even without ffp rules in place. I think we are run that well right now. We still wouldn’t be doing a Chelsea Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 21 minutes ago, GeordieDazzler said: It’s not really a loophole though is it, Chelsea are one of the few big six clubs who make good money back from selling players. Their current spend is allowable under FFP but long term it won’t be especially if they fail to get in the CL. Nah, I'm taking about stopping companies from spending what they want to. The whole thing seems low a huge pile of inconsistent, arguable and contextual nonsense. It's ripe for a big legal challenge to see if it holds up in the courts or it comes crumbling down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 (edited) 28 minutes ago, GeordieDazzler said: They’ve made close to 400m odd in player sales in the past four windows. £157m in 19/20 £60m in 20/21 £124m in 21/22 £56m in 22/23 Add in you don’t have to be in profit, just under the allowable amount of losses. It’s utterly reckless and unsustainable in the long term but they aren’t breaking any of the rules at the moment. The powers that be could always change the rules, like the related parties thing wasn't a rule until we were taken over. They even had the gall to change it mid season. Edited January 30, 2023 by madras Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted January 30, 2023 Share Posted January 30, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, midds said: Chelsea simply buying players to stop others from getting them at this point. Not giving a single fuck about FFP. And why should they tbh? It's toothless and the punishments for breaking it are absolutely shite, almost encouraging teams to take the piss. They'll get a big fine. So they love throwing money around, means nothing to them and their punishment will be to make them do more of what they love doing and means nothing to them. That'll teach them Edited January 30, 2023 by Wolfcastle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now