SEMTEX Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
huss9 Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 screens need to pitchside as its the referee who needs to make the calls and take responsibilty. not " a committee" sat in a tiny room a hundred miles away. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paully Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 Nailed-it! It’s shit and I hate it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Maximin Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 He’s not wrong but the Fulham disallowed goal was crazily still correct and due to a stupid rule. I think they should change that rule to make exceptions for such cases as well as some of the protocols such as marginal offsides (I mean Werner’s tonight was ridiculous), but I think a chance for the ref to rewatch is good to have for red cards, penalties, key fouls etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 :lol: unlucky to those it fucked over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 From next season, or right now? Mad that you can change rules with games left to play (if so). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 I don't think VAR is something you can just remove once it has been implemented. People would go mad the second a clear decision is missed, not talking about marginal offside/handball but clear offsides and penalties Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 Should never have been brought in in the first place Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 Terrible Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 Honestly if we have VAR and i can understand arguments for and against honestly feel the bar for it being called upon should be much higher and mainly reserved for glaring errors or things the ref genuinely didnt see. If you have to zoom in on an offside and bring on milimeter apart lines to check for offside should just be 'umpires call' like in cricket, If ref saw a challenge his judgement should stick, if he missed someone being kicked in the head then use it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Maximin Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 Honestly if we have VAR and i can understand arguments for and against honestly feel the bar for it being called upon should be much higher and mainly reserved for glaring errors or things the ref genuinely didnt see. If you have to zoom in on an offside and bring on milimeter apart lines to check for offside should just be 'umpires call' like in cricket, If ref saw a challenge his judgement should stick, if he missed someone being kicked in the head then use it. Yep. I think VAR should be still be used as the technology is excellent and available. Other sports use it so football should also. However, it's been used so badly that I can understand why many would rather it wasn't part of the game. I like to think the issues could be addressed rather than seeing it as a case of no VAR or VAR as things stand. I wouldn't be too sad to see it not being used for offsides but I think it could be an option for the most blatant offside errors, so all the bother of organising an offside trap isn't going to waste etc. I think that seems pretty reasonable compared to what we saw last night when Werner was effectively offside for pointing where the pass should be received. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rod Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 Should never have been brought in in the first place Video replays are an excellent idea. The whole VAR carry on is creating confusion purely because of the people running it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 Oh good. Changing the rules again to accommodate VAR. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 Well it's never going away so we might as well improve it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cronky Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 I do wonder whether the people who were most keen on introducing VAR are now the ones who are most critical of it. It was never going to be perfect. It was never going to eliminate doubt or controversy. It was never going to stop managers from moaning when decisions go against them. Expectations need to be more realistic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teslact Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 From next season, or right now? Mad that you can change rules with games left to play (if so). "The change is likely to be introduced in England from 1 July." https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/56291850 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 PL writes to all clubs asking for suggestions re improving VAR. Hopefully leads to some tangible improvements. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Terrible How? Think that’s a great idea tbh. Should have been the law from the start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foluwashola Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Agree. Saw folk arguing that attackers will be deliberately dangling their feet back etc but not sure how that would in anyway be of benefit. Would have to see how it plays out in practice like. Obviously the ultimate solution would just be to fuck VAR off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 'Dangling their feet back' sounds a bit far-fetched. These incidents are usually happening in motion, with attackers sprinting forward. Daylight being the line makes sense to me. These toenail incidents don't reflect the purpose of the rule, which is there to prevent unfair advantages. You can't tell me - off the top of my head - Bamford had an unfair advantage against Wolves (was it?) the other weekend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Terrible How? Think that’s a great idea tbh. Should have been the law from the start. Got me thinking. If they want to be this pernickety, then do it wholesale. If his left shoulder is offside, but the player scores with his right shin, which wasn't offside, it's a goal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Dutch use a margin of an error IIRC, could be worth looking at. Whatever happens it's hard to see how it is going to change the process though as it'll still come down to whether point x of the attacker is offside regardless of what point they're using. As someone who was/still is pretty anti-VAR I wouldn't be against the video ref only being able to watch replays in real time and having a time limited period to make an overruling call. Hasn't be so much an issue during the pandemic but it needs to be less intrusive to the match going experience. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpinho Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 With the clubs being asked opinions, is there any scope for them saying don't use it at all? Or are the EPL under a mandatory obligation from FIFA to implement it? I have always found it confusing that the managers hate it so much, yet getting rid doesn't appear to be part of the conversation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 'Dangling their feet back' sounds a bit far-fetched. These incidents are usually happening in motion, with attackers sprinting forward. Daylight being the line makes sense to me. These toenail incidents don't reflect the purpose of the rule, which is there to prevent unfair advantages. You can't tell me - off the top of my head - Bamford had an unfair advantage against Wolves (was it?) the other weekend. If anything you want to promote the advantage to the person who reacts quicker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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