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Guest Gemmill

This is the history of the email correspondence between romper thomp and this poker site:

 

OMG I LOSTED SUM HANDS!1111  I AM WELL ANNOYED

 

Dear Lee,

 

Thank you for contacting Pacific Poker.

 

Lee, I have read your email and your "chat" session with one of my

colleagues earlier and a couple of things spring to mind.

 

Firstly, you have not supplied any hard facts regarding the alleged

unfairness (or "unrandomness" - which I know isn't a proper word!) of

our site, which I, as a keen Poker player would have been more than

happy to look at.

 

I'm talking here about specific Hand I.D. numbers which I could look at

individually and in the wider context of the amount of Hands played

during that session (I'm sure you're aware of the fact that a great many

more hands of Poker can be played online over a similar "real life" time

period).

 

I would be more than happy to check the Pot Odds of certain occurrences,

but as I have already mentioned, this would have to be looked at as part

of an overall picture relating to quantity of hands played.

 

You mention in the chat session that other online Poker sites do not

have the same "patterns" as us, which is odd because the Random Number

Generator we use is the same one as is used by the majority of top Poker

sites Worldwide (the MD5) so there is absolutely no reason for it to be

only our site where cards follow some (as yet unspecified) pre-defined

pattern.

 

You also said that you were able to confidently predict that a 9 hit on

the River in one Hand which begs the question; why not use this

foreknowledge to your advantage? Surely if it were that predictable you

could clean up?

 

Obviously, if our "patterns" were as blatant as you claim, your threat

to take the matter further would carry some weight but as our software

is regularly tested by independent auditors and as we have been given

the eCOGRA "play it safe" seal of approval, we would confidently dispute

any such action.

 

eCOGRA is an independent, non-profit organisation based in the UK., for

the regulation and assurance of e-commerce and online gaming. eCOGRA

conducts scrupulous  examinations and assessments by approved

professional consultants before awarding their seal.

 

We are proud to have met these high standards; they demonstrate that our

games are fair, that we operate honestly and behave responsibly, that

monetary deposits made to us are safe, and we pay winning bets in a

timely manner.

 

And yes, Lee, those last 2 paragraphs are pre-written paragraphs of the

sort you were afraid you were going to receive, but this does not make

the points contained any less valid, and I trust you will agree that

everything I have written previously has been "original".

 

Lee, I don't think I have ever played on a site where I have not seen in

the chat boxes certain Members complaining about the deals - to be

honest I would miss it if it were to stop (it's usually a good sign that

somebody's about to go on tilt and this is very useful given the general

lack of "tells" available online).

 

But, having worked here at Pacific Poker for nearly 2 years now, I can

say with confidence that I not only trust our software but also that of

the other sites I play too.

 

To be honest, we have far too much to lose by behaving in such an

unethical and illegal way as you suggest; we are a publicly listed

company on the London Stock Exchange with a reputation for integrity and

security which we need to protect.

 

As I'm sure you know, in Poker, as opposed to other Casino games, one

plays against other Members and not the "house" and we make our money

from Rake and Tournament Fees.

 

Admittedly, a little bit more "action" could be created by dealing

"action" Flops etc, but the percentage gain to us by speeding up the

games in such a dishonest way are minimal and are far outweighed by the

risks involved.

 

I would like to take issue with one other point you raised in your chat;

that of us allowing Members to win a bit after depositing and then

hitting them with bad beat after bad beat. I can tell you honestly, from

personal experience here that I have seen the accounts of people that

are winning hundreds of thousands of Dollars on our site, some of whom

are cashing out the maximum monthly amount of $20k. We have no problem

with this because the Rake taken from such players is phenomenal which

puts me in mind of the old saying; "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". By

this I mean that Pacific Poker is a very successful business (even

allowing for the recent loss of the U.S. side of our activities) and

there is absolutely no need for us to change the winning formula for the

sake of a few extra Dollars.

 

Finally, I would like to mention something that I recently witnessed; I

was sent to Maidstone recently by 888.com to represent this company in

the U.K. Poker Open, which was broadcast on Challenge T.V.

 

In one of the qualifying heats, Danielle Lloyd (former Miss G.B. and

girlfriend of Teddy Sheringham) was dealt AA 3 hands in a row and then

followed this with 3 more Pocket deals containing an Ace - something

which Podraig Parkinson, who was commentating, said he had never seen in

all his years in Poker.

 

Now, I know that if this had happened online, this would have been put

forward as "proof" of a rigged site when, in fact, probability has no

memory and the fact that Aces were dealt in one hand to one player does

not lessen the odds of this happening again in the very next hand.

 

Lee, I hope you take the time to read this email with an open mind

before any reaction, as I have thought deeply about my comments and I

have given them sincerely.

 

I look forward to your response.

 

If you require further assistance in this or any other matter, please

feel free to contact us - we are here for you 24 hours a day, 7 days a

week.

 

YEAH WELL YOUR BREATH SMELLS OR SUMTHIN!111
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Guest thompers

"In the tournement" isn't playing me directly and there'd be no valid way of determining the better player. heads up is the only way to solve this gemmypoo. Come on! Grow some bollocks. Or is there nothing in the bank, that why you're avoiding playing me ;) Well, next week, don't blow your wages on the working girls and deposit some, and we'll do some of that heads up thing dude!

 

How does that sound?

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"In the tournement" isn't playing me directly and there'd be no valid way of determining the better player. heads up is the only way to solve this gemmypoo. Come on! Grow some bollocks. Or is there nothing in the bank, that why you're avoiding playing me ;) Well, next week, don't blow your wages on the working girls and deposit some, and we'll do some of that heads up thing dude!

 

How does that sound?

 

:lol:  I'll see you in the tournament.  You're a man of great experience with jedi abilities.  I'm terrified of you and rightly so.  Don't worry about my bank balance though.  bluebigrazz.gif

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"In the tournement" isn't playing me directly and there'd be no valid way of determining the better player. heads up is the only way to solve this gemmypoo. Come on! Grow some bollocks. Or is there nothing in the bank, that why you're avoiding playing me ;) Well, next week, don't blow your wages on the working girls and deposit some, and we'll do some of that heads up thing dude!

 

How does that sound?

 

:lol:  I'll see you in the tournament.  You're a man of great experience with jedi abilities.  I'm terrified of you and rightly so.  Don't worry about my bank balance though.  bluebigrazz.gif

 

Why are you avoiding the heads up scenario. It's the only way to settle it. Playing on a larger table won't prove a thing. Come on Germboy, are they testicles or just a little ginger fuzz ball!

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"In the tournement" isn't playing me directly and there'd be no valid way of determining the better player. heads up is the only way to solve this gemmypoo. Come on! Grow some bollocks. Or is there nothing in the bank, that why you're avoiding playing me ;) Well, next week, don't blow your wages on the working girls and deposit some, and we'll do some of that heads up thing dude!

 

How does that sound?

 

:lol:  I'll see you in the tournament.  You're a man of great experience with jedi abilities.  I'm terrified of you and rightly so.  Don't worry about my bank balance though.  bluebigrazz.gif

 

Why are you avoiding the heads up scenario. It's the only way to settle it. Playing on a larger table won't prove a thing. Come on Germboy, are they testicles or just a little ginger fuzz ball!

 

It wouldn't settle anything thompers.  If you lost you'd still be a whiney little tart who cries when he gets a bad beat.  If you won you'd still be a whiney little tart who cries when he gets a bad beat.  I've never claimed I was a better or worse player than you, only that you are a whining little bitch, which only you dispute (everyone else can see that it's not even in question).  So what exactly would playing you heads up prove? You'd still be a whining tit who got his arse wiped by the bloke in customer service.  :lol:

 

Any point I needed to prove I've done by consistently asking you for the evidence that this site was rigged.  Your continued failure to produce any, and now to respond to vic on it has proved the point I was trying to make.  Now you're doing the classic "Well let's play!  And I'll beat you!" defence to distract attention from the fact that you've well and truly lost the argument at hand.  :cool:

 

Like I say, I'll see you in the tournament.

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"In the tournement" isn't playing me directly and there'd be no valid way of determining the better player. heads up is the only way to solve this gemmypoo. Come on! Grow some bollocks. Or is there nothing in the bank, that why you're avoiding playing me ;) Well, next week, don't blow your wages on the working girls and deposit some, and we'll do some of that heads up thing dude!

 

How does that sound?

 

:lol:  I'll see you in the tournament.  You're a man of great experience with jedi abilities.  I'm terrified of you and rightly so.  Don't worry about my bank balance though.  bluebigrazz.gif

 

Why are you avoiding the heads up scenario. It's the only way to settle it. Playing on a larger table won't prove a thing. Come on Germboy, are they testicles or just a little ginger fuzz ball!

 

It wouldn't settle anything thompers.  If you lost you'd still be a whiney little tart who cries when he gets a bad beat.  If you won you'd still be a whiney little tart who cries when he gets a bad beat.  I've never claimed I was a better or worse player than you, only that you are a whining little bitch, which only you dispute (everyone else can see that it's not even in question).  So what exactly would playing you heads up prove? You'd still be a whining tit who got his arse wiped by the bloke in customer service.  :lol:

 

Any point I needed to prove I've done by consistently asking you for the evidence that this site was rigged.  Your continued failure to produce any, and now to respond to vic on it has proved the point I was trying to make.  Now you're doing the classic "Well let's play!  And I'll beat you!" defence to distract attention from the fact that you've well and truly lost the argument at hand.  :cool:

 

Like I say, I'll see you in the tournament.

 

I've never once claimed to have evidence. It was a mere observation, a pretty accurate one too. As you probably already knew, I haven't compiled a 'dossier' on it, and therefore asking for evidence is just putting on display what a total fucking cock head you are. You have to be a complete dick head because you think it makes you right and me wrong, but then thats up to you. Of course, I'll now be following anything you post on the forum and if you can't provide evidence for anything you post, I'll be letting you know, and in true Gemmill-fashion, if the evidence isn't presented I'll try and claim victory :lol:

 

Bell end :lol:

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"In the tournement" isn't playing me directly and there'd be no valid way of determining the better player. heads up is the only way to solve this gemmypoo. Come on! Grow some bollocks. Or is there nothing in the bank, that why you're avoiding playing me ;) Well, next week, don't blow your wages on the working girls and deposit some, and we'll do some of that heads up thing dude!

 

How does that sound?

 

:lol:  I'll see you in the tournament.  You're a man of great experience with jedi abilities.  I'm terrified of you and rightly so.  Don't worry about my bank balance though.  bluebigrazz.gif

 

Why are you avoiding the heads up scenario. It's the only way to settle it. Playing on a larger table won't prove a thing. Come on Germboy, are they testicles or just a little ginger fuzz ball!

 

It wouldn't settle anything thompers.  If you lost you'd still be a whiney little tart who cries when he gets a bad beat.  If you won you'd still be a whiney little tart who cries when he gets a bad beat.  I've never claimed I was a better or worse player than you, only that you are a whining little bitch, which only you dispute (everyone else can see that it's not even in question).  So what exactly would playing you heads up prove? You'd still be a whining tit who got his arse wiped by the bloke in customer service.  :lol:

 

Any point I needed to prove I've done by consistently asking you for the evidence that this site was rigged.  Your continued failure to produce any, and now to respond to vic on it has proved the point I was trying to make.  Now you're doing the classic "Well let's play!  And I'll beat you!" defence to distract attention from the fact that you've well and truly lost the argument at hand.  :cool:

 

Like I say, I'll see you in the tournament.

 

I've never once claimed to have evidence. It was a mere observation, a pretty accurate one too. As you probably already knew, I haven't compiled a 'dossier' on it, and therefore asking for evidence is just putting on display what a total fucking cock head you are. You have to be a complete dick head because you think it makes you right and me wrong, but then thats up to you. Of course, I'll now be following anything you post on the forum and if you can't provide evidence for anything you post, I'll be letting you know, and in true Gemmill-fashion, if the evidence isn't presented I'll try and claim victory :lol:

 

Bell end :lol:

 

Go for it.  I'll have a spreadsheet on it somewhere, baby.  bluebigrazz.gif

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I can't wait to see Gemmill pwn Thompers. But on the other hand, I'd love to see Gemmill's face if Thompers managed to actually beat him.

 

I'm not really arsed either way tbh.  I'm not claiming to be any sort of expert - my money's on Jay Jay.  I'm an expert on whiney bitches though, and thompers is my prize specimen.

 

The tournament should hopefully be a laugh though.  :thup:

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What site is this tournament being held at?

 

If i'm not busy I might join in :thup:

 

Stars or Party, Baggio.  Think there'll be a thread started when it becomes more concrete.  Plan is for it to be at 8ish on a night between the 27th and 4th of Jan, I think.

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What site is this tournament being held at?

 

If i'm not busy I might join in :thup:

 

Stars or Party, Baggio.  Think there'll be a thread started when it becomes more concrete.  Plan is for it to be at 8ish on a night between the 27th and 4th of Jan, I think.

 

Gemmill: I thought from what I'd read in the past you had a Mac? I'm using Pokerroom on mine at the mo, but thought Full Tilt was the only other one that worked?

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I can't wait to see Gemmill pwn Thompers. But on the other hand, I'd love to see Gemmill's face if Thompers managed to actually beat him.

 

You have some sort of predetermined opinion on our poker skills without actually seeing any of us play? :lol:

 

Oh, and Gemmill, regarding your program. I want you to go to a casino and join the hold in tournement. Take some spreadsheets, lay them on the table, and start gathering statistics on each player. See how long before they throw your ass outta that joint.

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I can't wait to see Gemmill pwn Thompers. But on the other hand, I'd love to see Gemmill's face if Thompers managed to actually beat him.

 

You have some sort of predetermined opinion on our poker skills without actually seeing any of us play? :lol:

 

Oh, and Gemmill, regarding your program. I want you to go to a casino and join the hold in tournement. Take some spreadsheets, lay them on the table, and start gathering statistics on each player. See how long before they throw your ass outta that joint.

 

What's this "hold in" game you speak of?  blueconfused.gif

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