Jump to content

Google Stadia


54
 Share

Recommended Posts

Dislike not actually owning the thing I buy anymore though. All their EULAs and nonsense basically state you're only ever borrowing the game. And you can't play offline. Hate it. Absolute garbage. Down with Google.

Link to post
Share on other sites

 

I remember people saying the same about music and video streaming mind.  We'll see

 

Games need way better internet than those though, standard broadband is probably good enough to stream music and video but games? not so much.

 

As of right now Asia and Europe are probably the only places where the infrastructure is ready for such a device, the funny thing is the rumor has been for a long time that the next Xbox will provide two different systems; a streaming box and a normal disc as we all know.

 

Which is smart because it's quite obvious most of the world isn't ready to go full on digital yet.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Guest Open_C

That's alright, I'm in Europe so it's all good for me :)

 

It'll come at some point, and I wouldn't write Google off purely for no track record

Link to post
Share on other sites

Sounds like you're talking bandwidth when latency is the important part. If your connection is good enough to stream video, it'll be good enough to stream games. Latency is the kicker, but really it's not going to be a big deal unless you're playing MP. Or you're a psycho about SP.

 

Rocket League says I get 12 ping, so I feel like I'm alreet to embrace STADIA.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Most people that tried their AC Odyssey test said the image quality was bad and their was noticable input lag. Also input lag matters in SP too, ask the Souls guys here how much they'd enjoy a game where each dodge,parry, block and hit was delayed. :lol:

 

It would be literally unplayable. I'm sure you'll be fine, i would be also but that's not my argument here as i'm mainly talking about the viability of this in general.

 

 

Link to post
Share on other sites

Guest Open_C

I used to routinely play Souls and Bloodborne on that service where you can stream your PS4 to your PC screen, really wasn't an issue and there was a definite lag on that (not sure how it worked but I assume it's streamed the same way as this will be, I just wasn't clear on whether it was going to and from a remote server, or just going through the router but not leaving the house, if you see what I mean).  The timing is very slightly different but not enough to ruin the game, and you adjust pretty quickly.  MP is a different matter I guess, but I played online OK as well tbh.

Link to post
Share on other sites

I used to routinely play Souls and Bloodborne on that service where you can stream your PS4 to your PC screen, really wasn't an issue and there was a definite lag on that (not sure how it worked but I assume it's streamed the same way as this will be, I just wasn't clear on whether it was going to and from a remote server, or just going through the router but not leaving the house, if you see what I mean).  The timing is very slightly different but not enough to ruin the game, and you adjust pretty quickly.  MP is a different matter I guess, but I played online OK as well tbh.

From what I understand (which isn't much) the lag would be the distance from your pc/smart tv/whatever to the server thats running the game for you.

 

The idea isn't a bad one but not one I can see developers jumping on either and it certainly won't replace the current method not with ISP's being evil incompetent bastards anyway

Link to post
Share on other sites

  • 2 months later...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-48525703

 

Google Stadia launch date and games revealed

By Chris Fox

Technology reporter

6 June 2019

 

Google has revealed more details about its new video gaming platform, Stadia, which was first announced in March.

 

Stadia is a cloud gaming platform - so instead of buying a games console, discs and downloads, players can stream games over the internet.

 

The service will launch in November with a limited edition starter pack for early adopters.

 

Studios such as EA and Bethesda will provide games but big developers, such as Epic Games, are still missing.

 

How will Stadia work?

Stadia games will run on servers at Google data centres around the world, with the video footage streamed to a TV.

 

The company says that will give gamers over 10 teraflops of graphics processing - more than Xbox One and PS4 combined.

 

But it remains to be seen how well it will work in the real world. Google has not let the BBC try Stadia yet. It is showing the service to journalists at the E3 gaming show in June.

 

Google says that to stream games in ultra-high definition 4K, players will need an internet connection that can deliver download speeds of 35Mbps and upload speeds of 1Mbps.

 

The company recommends a speed of at least 10Mbps to stream games in a lower resolution.

 

For comparison, Sony's PlayStation Now cloud gaming service requires 5Mbps to stream games in 720p resolution.

 

How much will it cost?

The only way to try Stadia when it launches in November is with the starter pack, which will cost £119 or $129 in the US.

 

It includes a dark blue Stadia controller, a Chromecast Ultra TV stick and a three-month subscription to Stadia Pro.

 

That subscription lets players stream games from the included library in 4K.

 

But not all the games on Stadia will be included in the subscription streaming library. Some of the most recent titles will have to be purchased separately.

 

From 2020, the company will offer the controllers separately for £59, and a Stadia Pro subscription for £8.99 a month.

 

Players who choose not to subscribe will be able to buy individual games but will be limited to streaming in high definition rather than 4K.

 

What games will be available?

Google says there will be at least 30 games at launch, from big studios such as Bethesda, EA Games, Rockstar, Sega, Square Enix, Warner Bros and Ubisoft.

 

Some of the big titles include Doom, Destiny 2, Final Fantasy XV, Rise of the Tomb Raider, Assassin's Creed Odyssey, and Tom Clancy's The Division 2.

 

However, some big studios such as Activision Blizzard, which makes Overwatch, and Epic Games, which makes Fortnite, are not on board yet.

 

That means some of the world's most popular games are missing from Stadia at the moment.

 

"Major exclusives will be key to driving consumer awareness of and desire to adopt cloud gaming services," said Piers Harding-Rolls from the IHS Markit consultancy.

 

"With the selection of content on offer, Google has not yet demonstrated that it will be better placed to engage gamers than the established console and PC storefronts."

 

Interview with Google vice-president Phil Harrison

 

Low latency is very important to make gaming smooth and responsive. How are you achieving low latency?

 

Well, we did a very successful test of our technology back in October, testing one of the most advanced and sophisticated games that we could make available at the time, which was Assassin's Creed Odyssey. We're building our physical data centres as close to the population as we can, so we reduce the impact of latency. And we are putting some very custom technology that we have designed in the data centre to compress data - but do it in a way that gives an incredible quality and experience.

 

Are you nervous going up against Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo?

 

No, it's exciting. I mean, we wouldn't be here without the work and an incredible success of other platforms that have come before us. But we want to take the industry to the next level, we want to make gaming available for the widest number of people possible, and to bring gaming experiences to people who wouldn't normally be able to get the latest hardware in their home. And that's an exciting prospect. We won't do it overnight. But we're very, very dedicated to this.

 

Google has a habit of getting bored of a service or, if it's not doing too well, just switching it off. Can you assure people that if they spend money on Stadia games, they are still going to have access to them in the coming years?

 

I completely understand the question. I think there's a couple of things I would answer to that. One is our commitment to this business is extraordinary. If you look at the list of games, and crucially, the list of game companies that are backing Stadia, you can see the level of interest and support. Google is committed to this for the long term, we have made very significant financial investments in this. And we have an incredibly dedicated team who is helping to make Stadia reality.

 

Is the move from everybody having a console in the house to us playing on supercharged Google data centres going to be more energy efficient?

 

All of Google's data centres are powered by matching green energy. Not every single data centre is using green energy at the moment but we balance every watt that we put into a data centre with the equivalent green energy generation elsewhere in the world. So we're committed to green energy and have publicly committed to this over a number of years.

 

You're taking on some giants in the industry. What for you will success look like a year or two down the road?

 

Very simply, happy gamers - people who love playing on Stadia, who bring their friends and have a great experience and start to feel what it's like to get rid of that old bit of hardware in your home and just be playing the latest, greatest games without any of the administration that comes with playing games today.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Guest neesy111

Preordered the founder edition. For €129, I'm willing to take a punt.

 

Think I will as well.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Fuck it, I'm in. A big draw for me will be the absence of fucking huge patch downloads before I can have a quick blast on something and (with respect to the PS4 Pro) the lack of fan noise :lol:

 

Willing to put a bit of faith in this though, doesn't have to be perfect to be worthwhile.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Guest Open_C

If it gets games I like, I'll be in like. Fed up of the arms race and I don't notice a bit of latency

Link to post
Share on other sites

I mentioned this in the FM thread, but cloud hosted FM is a fucking dream. I do the poor mans version at home, with my gaming desktop hosting FM and my shitty laptop as the client. With Stadia, I can hit up my FM save no matter where I am in the world? Like fuck am I not playing at work.

Link to post
Share on other sites

Guest neesy111

I mentioned this in the FM thread, but cloud hosted FM is a fucking dream. I do the poor mans version at home, with my gaming desktop hosting FM and my shitty laptop as the client. With Stadia, I can hit up my FM save no matter where I am in the world? Like fuck am I not playing at work.

 

 

This is the dream.

 

 

I know for a fact my internet is way too shit to pull that off

 

30GB in 2 hours playing a 4k game. :yao:

Link to post
Share on other sites

Guest neesy111

Guessing that the lagginess in Ps Now is Sonys fault, and that Google will have more "juice"?

 

Yes, Sony are solving that by migrating to Microsoft Azure.

Link to post
Share on other sites

jesus how the f*** do they plan on ever selling that idea in the states (probably the intended target market) where they have data caps?

 

I don't have any datacap on my gigabit internet.

 

Most of the caps that exist aren't really hard caps either. They're just threats that you shouldn't be downloading 100tb of data every month. Legitimate services like this will just serve to make ISPs increase their faux caps.

Link to post
Share on other sites

jesus how the f*** do they plan on ever selling that idea in the states (probably the intended target market) where they have data caps?

 

I don't have any datacap on my gigabit internet.

 

Most of the caps that exist aren't really hard caps either. They're just threats that you shouldn't be downloading 100tb of data every month. Legitimate services like this will just serve to make ISPs increase their faux caps.

I fell you might be putting too much faith in companies doing the right thing rather than the thing that will get them the most money in the short term

Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
 Share

×
×
  • Create New...