Darth Crooks Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 Is it the same/different cognitive dissonance required/displayed by those who think they aren’t supporting Ashley by attending? Genuine question? I know the difference but there’s definitely some involved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sean Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 I could never ever justify supporting nufc if they were owned by Saudi's. This is where I'm at I feel. I definitely can't justify supporting nufc owned by Ashley either though. Starting to care less about football in general. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilson Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 I'd shamefully be back on board once Mike ashleys gone, regardless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Geordie Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 I'd shamefully be back on board once Mike ashleys gone, regardless. #Metoo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapo Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 I’ll happily buy a NUFC branded bonesaw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 I'd shamefully be back on board once Mike ashleys gone, regardless. I won't even be ashamed of it. There are plenty of British companies doing business with the Saudis, I don't see why it's our job to take one for the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 From Ashley into the arms of the genocidal human rights abusers House of Saud. Unreal. The club is cursed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_NUFC Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 I hope those kicking off about potentially being owned by Saudis have gone around tut-tutting Man City fans, whose owners hail from a country that also has serious human rights abuses and is regressive as fuck. I wonder if there were any City fans that did stop supporting, I don’t know. I am against everything the Saudi regime stands for like the next reasonable human being, but to immediately lord some sort of a moral high ground over football fans because of it is strange. But we do live in 2020 and this is now normal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
snabelkabel Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 There is no need to worry about it... It's not gonna happen anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 If Sports Direct's Mike Ashley's questionable business practices bankrolled an NUFC which was managed by a true 'footballing board' - that made its own decisions without interference from the owner and in the best interests of the club - I'd be able to turn a blind eye to wherever the finance originated. I don't believe it would matter anywhere near enough to me for it to have a profoundly negative effect on my support of the football team. But that's probably because, in the context of humanity, Mike Ashley isn't that bad. If the source of money and facilitation originated from something truly abhorrent like wholesale human rights abuse, it becomes a lot harder to turn a blind eye. But this is where it's unfair, and where normal football fans are simply caught in the crossfire between 'real' football's unhappy and incongruous link with economics, politics and current affairs. Football should be impartial to all that, but it isn't these days. Fans are forced into holding positions on non-footballing matters, because those issues have suddenly become reflected by their team. But they've had nowt to do with that process; it's not fair on them. I don't know how I'd feel if something like this were to happen, really. I'm at a point of desperation because I feel like the state of things has had an effect on my mental health. Not a destructive one obviously, but enough to effect my daily mood, certainly. I'm obsessed with football and I'm obsessed with NUFC; it's been a constant in my life and its hooked-into so many other things - big ticket things, too: family, friends, hobbies. But, now, it's something that makes me feel angry, miserable and/or low at least once a day. As such, I think I'd find it very difficult not to fully consume myself in optimism if Ashley left, regardless of who came in. And that's why, like I say, the general matters surrounding ownership drags fans into difficult and unfair positions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 Not happening until the Geordie dentist drills them for information and fills us in. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 For the record, I think if Ashley had the money and power of MBS he would totally be worse (no not excusing MBS who is clearly vile) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 I hope those kicking off about potentially being owned by Saudis have gone around tut-tutting Man City fans, whose owners hail from a country that also has serious human rights abuses and is regressive as f***. I wonder if there were any City fans that did stop supporting, I don’t know. I am against everything the Saudi regime stands for like the next reasonable human being, but to immediately lord some sort of a moral high ground over football fans because of it is strange. But we do live in 2020 and this is now normal. I have criticised Man City loads of times on here in the past, I don't know any Man City fans so don't have the option to do it in real life. Fwiw I can completely understand people still supporting NUFC but I at least hope we don't turn like the City fans I've seen online where they actually defend their horrific owners Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest NobbyOhNobby Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Why can't we be bought buy someone who isn't either a total cunt, or literally represents a regime that crucifies people. Let that sink in. They crucify people Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pixelphish Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Why can't we be bought buy someone who isn't either a total cunt, or literally represents a regime that crucifies people. Let that sink in. They crucify people Seems very apt for NUFC tbh. Even if we had runaway success, it's got that dark cloud over it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_F Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 In other words Luke doesn't have a scooby Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 I don't watch the news, so I'm firmly in the 'anyone but Ashley' camp Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_R Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 I'll take total cunts who invest in the club and make it a success over a total cunt who owns the club just to line his own pockets. Anyway, I'm currently sat in a hotel in Jeddah, so I can hardly take the moral high ground here . If I'd happily take Saudi money to keep a roof over my head, it seems silly to get my pants in a knot over Saudis investing in my football club. (Obviously this will - as per the last 472 takeover rumours - come to nothing, so the whole thing is moot anyway) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chopey Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 Football lost its morals a long time ago Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 Not even worth discussing, no chance of this happening. If there have been talks it’s all but over if the buying side have had to resort to leaking the story. No doubt Ashley doing his thing again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheInfiniteOdyssey Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 In other words Luke doesn't have a scooby Why do the local journalists always bring up how Ashley will be irked by a possible deal going public, despite him having made numerous television appearances and written interviews on how the club is for sale and in talks with various parties over the years? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Little Waster Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 What if the Saudis invite Mike to their Embassy for ' talks ' ? 😎 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 The best way I’m finding to enjoy football is just to watch matches that interest you and appreciate the play on the day. The context, the narrative and who has the best sheik competition just annoys me now. Not sure I could embrace it again, even under a new owner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 Feels different this time I'm normally really sceptical but my gut is saying its happening and its rarely wrong Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 In other words Luke doesn't have a scooby Why do the local journalists always bring up how Ashley will be irked by a possible deal going public, despite him having made numerous television appearances and written interviews on how the club is for sale and in talks with various parties over the years? It’s almost like it’s a scripted charade used as a smokescreen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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