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On 10/10/2021 at 12:55, Northerngimp said:

Bruce will be at Derby quicker than you could say "bacon, chips n beans Risotto" 

 

Nah, clever Mike will look for the Midlands version. Some out of work former Derby player or manager who will provide a nice local buffer from any criticism. 

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If you're happy to support a club whose owner puts a self-imposed ceiling on your possible success of 17th in the Prem, then yeah, he might honestly not be a bad owner for another club. That isn't to say his ownership will ever get you to the lofty heights of 17th of course.

 

And even if he did that with some smaller club, got them to the Prem and sustained them at 17th - eventually the happiness would fade. Expectations are fluid - eventually the novelty of existing purely to be the whipping boys of everyone else in the Prem would wear off and you'd hate him for sucking the dreams of being something more out of your club. Just like he did to us.

 

 

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1 minute ago, Chicane said:

If you're happy to support a club whose owner puts a self-imposed ceiling on your possible success of 17th in the Prem, then yeah, he might honestly not be a bad owner for another club. That isn't to say his ownership will ever get you to the lofty heights of 17th of course.

 

And even if he did that with some smaller club, got them to the Prem and sustained them at 17th - eventually the happiness would fade. Expectations are fluid - eventually the novelty of existing purely to be the whipping boys of everyone else in the Prem would wear off and you'd hate him for sucking the dreams of being something more out of your club. Just like he did to us.

 

 

 

Yeap, by the time the happiness faded, Ashley has asset stripped the club for all its worth and taken all the clubs brands for himself. 

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2 minutes ago, Chicane said:

If you're happy to support a club whose owner puts a self-imposed ceiling on your possible success of 17th in the Prem, then yeah, he might honestly not be a bad owner for another club. That isn't to say his ownership will ever get you to the lofty heights of 17th of course.

 

And even if he did that with some smaller club, got them to the Prem and sustained them at 17th - eventually the happiness would fade. Expectations are fluid - eventually the novelty of existing purely to be the whipping boys of everyone else in the Prem would wear off and you'd hate him for sucking the dreams of being something more out of your club. Just like he did to us.

 

 


He’d stabilize them, which is what they’re clamouring for now and that’s about it. Eventually, Derby fans would ask…”Right, can we crack on with it?” to which his answer would be:

 


 

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5 minutes ago, Northerngimp said:

 

Yeap, by the time the happiness faded, Ashley has asset stripped the club for all its worth and taken all the clubs brands for himself. 

 

Aren't they in administration? What assets will they have as of now? It seems to be a case of beggars can't be choosers for Derby fans, they'd probably take Ashley in a heartbeat at this time. 

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4 minutes ago, Stifler said:

Apparently he has not made any contact with their administrators.

 

Not his style really, he'll wait until the last second to get it as cheap as possible

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The more I think about it, the more shocked I am that he’s eventually sold up. He has no incentive, ok he’s got something like £350m, but he’s been able to get that for a few years and never sold up.

Some people say COVID was the reason but the deal was pretty much agreed before the pandemic.


Maybe it has been because this next relegation would cost him too much and there is less of a chance of bouncing back, but again on balance he would have been better off letting us have a couple of relatively cheap players and a semi-decent manager who wouldn’t cost the world and would keep us up.

 

I’m not sitting here saying he’s kept his word and sold us to someone who he thinks could take us to the next level, because I don’t think that either, as like before he has had that opportunity before and he has shown that he clearly does not give a fuck about us at all.

 

Lately there has been talk that he wants to retire and step aside from SD, maybe he just wants to step aside from everything and just live in his holiday mansions with money in the bank.

Maybe he knows he’s reached the ceiling price of the club and wants it now, or thinks he can reinvest some of it in another club or something and hit another ceiling and sell them, quite like Derby.

 

Whatever the reason I’m surprised because even though we saw the decline coming, a couple of good decision and he could have easily kept us in the Premier League and used us as his cash cow.

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1 hour ago, B-more Mag said:

And so ended the Competition Appeal Tribunal's 15 minutes of fame.

 

Well here is the thing. It was clearly a part of the deal that he dropped the case, I reckon.

 

Seems like we lifted up a rock and they had to scurry.

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Ashley admitted to being baffled by football.  I can see why as he appears unable to develop and adhere to any kind of long term strategy.  I think he's used to putting money into a venture and seeing immediate results.  Buy some chain of stores and either see a bump in sales or prestige or notoriety.  He can probably get that at Derby.  Once it gets stabilized, he'll lose interest and we all know what happens then.

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Just now, Darth Crooks said:

He has one business model. Tells himself he’s the greatest business man there is and when it doesn’t apply to football it has been football’s fault. Needs nowhere near sport

He’s a shit businessman full stop, NUFC is a football club, but also a business and it has underperformed at every level. To allow such a business to be relegated twice from the most lucrative market in sport is bad business. He got lucky with SD like he did with Rafa, he doesn’t even run it, if anything there were times where his own board wanted him out or away from any decision making. He’s basically a wealthy car boot sale/jumble sale man as that’s what his entire tatty sports stores resemble on any given day. 

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32 minutes ago, Stifler said:

The more I think about it, the more shocked I am that he’s eventually sold up. He has no incentive, ok he’s got something like £350m, but he’s been able to get that for a few years and never sold up.

Some people say COVID was the reason but the deal was pretty much agreed before the pandemic.


Maybe it has been because this next relegation would cost him too much and there is less of a chance of bouncing back, but again on balance he would have been better off letting us have a couple of relatively cheap players and a semi-decent manager who wouldn’t cost the world and would keep us up.

 

I’m not sitting here saying he’s kept his word and sold us to someone who he thinks could take us to the next level, because I don’t think that either, as like before he has had that opportunity before and he has shown that he clearly does not give a fuck about us at all.

 

Lately there has been talk that he wants to retire and step aside from SD, maybe he just wants to step aside from everything and just live in his holiday mansions with money in the bank.

Maybe he knows he’s reached the ceiling price of the club and wants it now, or thinks he can reinvest some of it in another club or something and hit another ceiling and sell them, quite like Derby.

 

Whatever the reason I’m surprised because even though we saw the decline coming, a couple of good decision and he could have easily kept us in the Premier League and used us as his cash cow.

Apparently he's upset some of the locals in Miami where he purchased his home

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3 hours ago, Abacus said:

 

Well here is the thing. It was clearly a part of the deal that he dropped the case, I reckon.

 

Seems like we lifted up a rock and they had to scurry.

 

Yeah, of course. I'm just saying Ashley's case seems to have brought the CAT about as much public interest as it's ever likely to get. :lol: 

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