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2 hours ago, Big Geordie said:

Want to see an arse-kicking, on last night's Peston?

 

 

 

My favourite thing about is, which isn’t on the clip above, is the start of the conversation where the Tory nonce says “I’m not an expert on this…”

 

:lol: 

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2 minutes ago, WillingtonMag said:

Isn't like, he performed well in the 2017 election if he'd had a back bone stood up to the party and idiot groups like momentum and not backed a second referdum things would have worked out a lot differently.

I was all for deselection, doesn't mean I can't see the argument  against it.

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42 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said:

 

My favourite thing about is, which isn’t on the clip above, is the start of the conversation where the Tory nonce says “I’m not an expert on this…”

 

:lol: 

 

Picked up by James O'Brien this morning. :)

 

Mick Lynch needs to stay well away from the Labour party. His style and message would be diluted by party politics.

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From e very little I’ve seen of him he seems class. Exactly what the country needs. Doesn’t do sound byte’s just talks about the issue at hand.

 

if we could find people in both sides to talk like this in every issue we’d be mint

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20 hours ago, Kid Icarus said:

Tbh, even that might backfire because overexposure is no good for anyone. The Grenfell victims got loads of coverage and because people view news as a spectacle that's there for them to consume, they got sick of hearing about them and turned on them. It's only a matter of time that the same thing will happen with the strikes unless the people consuming the news end up being participants themselves. 

 

Just following on from this, Lynch was talking earlier about how he knows the media are out to get him and that pride comes before a fall in terms of his popularity.

 

It goes without saying but he's very wily like. It'll be interesting to see whether he can keep outsmarting them.

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2 minutes ago, Big Geordie said:

For those who think the sun shines out of Lynch's arse at the moment - he is still very much pro-Brexit. So he's not 'all that', as well as he is doing.


Two completely different points though. 
 

We need to stop thinking in terms of identity groups around individual opinions. He’s saying the right thing and doing the right thing, therefore he deserves support and praise. If we debated Brexit, we could exchange views on that. 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Big Geordie said:

For those who think the sun shines out of Lynch's arse at the moment - he is still very much pro-Brexit. So he's not 'all that', as well as he is doing.

 

I'm fine with that - you don't have to agree with everything someone thinks and says to listen to them and agree on other topics and activity. Enjoying his current engagement with media and politicians is all I am pleased with from him.

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33 minutes ago, Big Geordie said:

For those who think the sun shines out of Lynch's arse at the moment - he is still very much pro-Brexit. So he's not 'all that', as well as he is doing.

 

Honestly makes no difference to me in terms of my opinion of him. While I might think pro-Brexit leftists are naive, I agree with more or less all of the main gripes they have with the E.U 

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8 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

 

Honestly makes no difference to me in terms of my opinion of him. While I might think pro-Brexit leftists are naive, I agree with more or less all of the main gripes they have with the E.U 

 

I've got friends who worked at Royal Mail and were unionised before the Brexit vote. They were pro Brexit due to Union influence. Things like state aid EU regulation and believing staying in the EU would lead to Royal Mail having competition forced on it that would cause chaos and impact jobs. I agree it's a naivety, but it's based on protectionism of it's members so I understand how unions and members can have leaned to being pro-Brexit.

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4 hours ago, Happinesstan said:

Kay Burley needs strapping to a chair, Clockwork Orange style, and forced to watch that interview on loop.

She's absolutely awful reads the news like the audience are children.

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1 hour ago, Kid Icarus said:

 

Just following on from this, Lynch was talking earlier about how he knows the media are out to get him and that pride comes before a fall in terms of his popularity.

 

It goes without saying but he's very wily like. It'll be interesting to see whether he can keep outsmarting them.

 

Theyll be digging into his past as we speak.

 

Affairs, teenage drug taking....skeletons will be rattling to see what shakes loose.

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If there’s anything that’s comparable to the current Prime Minister’s background I’d be amazed. 
 

Silly to make this individual about Lynch anyway, he’s not seeking political power. He’s the front man for an organisation of ordinary workers. Eddie Dempsey is just as good. 

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13 minutes ago, Lazarus said:

 

Theyll be digging into his past as we speak.

 

Affairs, teenage drug taking....skeletons will be rattling to see what shakes loose.

 

He's about 3 days away from being accused of Antisemitism, just wait and see. 

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41 minutes ago, WillingtonMag said:

She's absolutely awful reads the news like the audience are children.

 

Where does this confidence come from that she is a stunner ? lounging on tables trying to look seductive whilst reading the news to her shameless retweeting of her own twitter posts that are massively pro her.

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I'm honestly fascinated to see how they're going to try and smear a working class, no-nonsense, pro Brexiteer who's fighting for worker's rights and speaks like a populist. I'm sure they'll find a way, but I'm struggling to see how they'll make it stick. 

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well no i've little faith that they'll land a punch on him just want to see the ranting tory lunatics they usually load the audience with have a go

 

where's it at?  tempted to look for a stream of it :lol:

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23 minutes ago, Kid Icarus said:

I'm honestly fascinated to see how they're going to try and smear a working class, no-nonsense, pro Brexiteer who's fighting for worker's rights and speaks like a populist. I'm sure they'll find a way, but I'm struggling to see how they'll make it stick. 

They found the only 50 in the North East that supports Boris in Newcastle so it's possible

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The whole thing is a huge mess & puts us all in a more vulnerable position. Unless you’re mortgage free/ have savings, it’s a very worrying situation. Things like cutting vat on fuel should be pushed hard, cut it to 15% and the govt would still be far better off than a year ago, increase it as wholesale price decreases are felt on the forecourt. 
 

The Treasury is greedily grabbing money back from Joe Public to help plug the unacceptable mess they made of PPE/ lining the pockets of mates and furlough. 
 

We are nowhere near seeing how had this will get and neither the Bank of England or the govt have a real colonel of an idea on how to tackle it. I’m all right Jack, get a second job and use your bike.

 

The war in Ukraine is slowly becoming largely unnewsworthy and Putin must loving the reduced coverage. We need to ramp up aid, increase arms to Ukraine and do all we can to stop the situation becoming a long term war of attrition. 
 

I’m no doubt incredibly naive in all of this  but I just don’t see any joined up plan to see us through this.

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2 hours ago, Kid Icarus said:

I'm honestly fascinated to see how they're going to try and smear a working class, no-nonsense, pro Brexiteer who's fighting for worker's rights and speaks like a populist. I'm sure they'll find a way, but I'm struggling to see how they'll make it stick. 

 

I was devastated when I heard on LBC that his Union encouraged members to support Brexit :lol: thought he was class up to that point.

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2 hours ago, mrmojorisin75 said:

well no i've little faith that they'll land a punch on him just want to see the ranting tory lunatics they usually load the audience with have a go

 

where's it at?  tempted to look for a stream of it :lol:

I've got to be honest, this is what interests me about tonight. He can treat the media with the contempt they deserve but the general public is a different story. I've no doubt he'll smash it.

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31 minutes ago, Klaus said:

 

I was devastated when I heard on LBC that his Union encouraged members to support Brexit :lol: thought he was class up to that point.

 

I don't know his reasons but judging by the fact he's a union leader, republican, and socialist, I'm going to guess his arguments are totally reasonable even if you disagree with them. 

 

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