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3 hours ago, WillingtonMag said:

Always hated David lammy 

 

Glad people are coming round on him. He is one of the many reasons Labour don't appeal to people that they should appeal to.

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17 hours ago, Skeletor said:

 

Glad people are coming round on him. He is one of the many reasons Labour don't appeal to people that they should appeal to.


 

i remember the classic video when he was on TV moaning on about never seeing a police officer on patrol, at the same time there was a police office on patrol behind him. 

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They’ve got one line that they come back to again and again “we’re speaking on behalf of the will of the people, we’re straight talking and saying what the common man thinks.” All while just saying whatever the fuck they want to say with no regard for the fact that the ‘common man’ and ‘will of the people’ doesn’t exist

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He gets far too much hate/attention on here mind, considering how little he matters :lol: he's like the Adam Pearson of the chat section.

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Yeah they don't mean freedom in the conventional sense. Freedom to right wing conservatives and libertarians rarely means individual freedom or autonomy, it means the freedom to dominate anyone they deem lower than them. Rich over poor, men over women, white over black, straight over gay, employers over employees, Christianity over everything, the police state over their enemies, and their country over the rest of the world. Anything intervening with what they see as that natural hierarchy is the nanny state being given too much power. 

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Baffles me when people talk about unions being dinosaurs when referencing less than 60-70 years of history. Yes tech progress is lightspeed and warps things but you’ve had less than 200 years of socialised sanitation, 150 years of education and these people seem to advocate some kind of neo liberal feudal system akin to baronys - yet the ‘Union barons’ are the problem. These pricks would have us in the Bronze Age 

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5 minutes ago, Darth Crooks said:

Baffles me when people talk about unions being dinosaurs when referencing less than 60-70 years of history. Yes tech progress is lightspeed and warps things but you’ve had less than 200 years of socialised sanitation, 150 years of education and these people seem to advocate some kind of neo liberal feudal system akin to baronys - yet the ‘Union barons’ are the problem. These pricks would have us in the Bronze Age 

 

Yup - working 6 days a week, 52 weeks a year.

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1 hour ago, Kid Icarus said:

Yeah they don't mean freedom in the conventional sense. Freedom to right wing conservatives and libertarians rarely means individual freedom or autonomy, it means the freedom to dominate anyone they deem lower than them. Rich over poor, men over women, white over black, straight over gay, employers over employees, Christianity over everything, the police state over their enemies, and their country over the rest of the world. Anything intervening with what they see as that natural hierarchy is the nanny state being given too much power. 

Aye but effective. The more hate for those people the more opposition to free speech is perceived. It's quite clever when you think bout it.

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Just now, Happinesstan said:

Aye but effective. The more hate for those people the more opposition to free speech is perceived. It's quite clever when you think bout it.

 

Aw aye, it's effective like, especially when for all the decrying of the culture war and poor people voting against their own interests, while they're not being offered an alternative that believably benefits their economic interests, they can at least rely on the right to indulge their social conservatism.  

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45 minutes ago, Shays Given Tim Flowers said:

Wish people would recognise striking as a symptom of the problem, not the problem itself.  


Think this is probably the most effective strike I can remember for highlighting the real issues. Think future strikes have a good chance as well, given that everyone in society will be feeling the effects of low pay this summer. 

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I don't think everyone is being affected by low pay.  High inflation yes, but there's still several sectors getting pay rises that are near to inflation levels.

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There are also a lot of people for who the pandemic improved their lives and finances to a degree. 

If you've been able to work from home, keep getting full pay, cutting transport costs, likely spending more time with your family, and also not being able to go on holidays. Likely you've been able to save up some cash, thanks to lower out goings. Unfortunately these people don't see that not everyone was in the same situation as them, and their savings won't last forever. 

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I haven’t had a rise at all this year and I’m only on £10.90 p/h to start with.

 

Despite the miserable life situation I’m grateful my parents let me stay at their house because I’d be absolutely fucked otherwise. Thinking of quitting work and going to do an MA. Can’t be arsed working for nowt anymore.

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I'm liking Eddie Dempsey. A lot more to say than Mick Lynch, who has been brilliant at opening the doors for people with more to say, like Dempsey.

Could be an actual plan hatching here.

"Good tory" Ken Clark is on there as well.

 

 

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50 minutes ago, Smal said:

I haven’t had a rise at all this year and I’m only on £10.90 p/h to start with.

 

Despite the miserable life situation I’m grateful my parents let me stay at their house because I’d be absolutely fucked otherwise. Thinking of quitting work and going to do an MA. Can’t be arsed working for nowt anymore.

 

How anybody survives on this nowadays, I do not know. 

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1 hour ago, AyeDubbleYoo said:


Think this is probably the most effective strike I can remember for highlighting the real issues. Think future strikes have a good chance as well, given that everyone in society will be feeling the effects of low pay this summer. 

 

The BA one is the most striking.  Everyone took a 10% pay cut during the pandemic.  The 10% pay cut was reversed after only for senior execs and management.

 

Burn it down.

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