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Does it matter where the money comes from?  

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  1. 1. Does it matter where the money comes from?

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I’m going to back away as this feels more like a conversation over a pint than in a forum.  I’m arguing one side as I’m frustrated with the Newcastle bias. This is making people jump to quite large conclusion on where my moral compass lies. I don’t have energy to write long posts justifying everything.

 

I think you either accept it or you don't,  as soon as you start the discussion on morality then you begin from a losing position, as the negatives of the regime currently outweigh the positives.

Trying to justify if or overtly celebrating it (please no headscarves :anguish:) is just painting us in a bad light.

 

This is where I’m at. Similar to how I wouldn’t plaster wonga all over myself or go on like Steve wraith is with Saudi craic

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I won't be giving a penny to this potential regime. Just like Ashley. Football is hideous.

The world is truly an awful place.

 

I’m going to party like it’s 1999 when this is done. Can’t fucking wait to get “rowdy with the Saudis”

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I won't be giving a penny to this potential regime. Just like Ashley. Football is hideous.

The world is truly an awful place.

 

I’m going to party like it’s 1999 when this is done. Can’t f***ing wait to get “rowdy with the Saudis”

 

 

:lol:  I like that

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I won't be giving a penny to this potential regime. Just like Ashley. Football is hideous.

You will/are just in other ways.

 

I’m not that interested in getting in to the debate but the overlooking of this point is hillarious

 

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I fully respect what people are saying about watching from a distance, won’t give a penny etc. These are moral issues that can only be dealt with on a personal level and hats off to people who care as much about the world that they are willing to sacrifice things close to them. At the moment that is easy to do too with us being so turbo shit. It’s going to be a tough one when the area itself takes a boost, the team are doing well and the football is fun again.  Full of respect for people that can keep the same stance when that happens.

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I fully respect what people are saying about watching from a distance, won’t give a penny etc. These are moral issues that can only be dealt with on a personal level and hats off to people who care as much about the world that they are willing to sacrifice things close to them. At the moment that is easy to do too with us being so turbo shit. It’s going to be a tough one when the area itself takes a boost, the team are doing well and the football is fun again.  Full of respect for people that can keep the same stance when that happens.

 

Good post.  Yeap, it's easier while we are shit.

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I’m very excited for the take over and have feelings about the moral issue that I’m trying to separate from the enjoyment of football but I feel I’m already starting to get ground down by the posts in every thread in here and twitter.

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What a strange world we live in when people think a journalist should not be critical of his publication's (part) owners.

 

You’re right, but he’s getting paid in blood money too! The whole world and all it’s systems is corrupt and we all play a part in that, some more than others. I try and accept this by not murdering people and being a cunt and trying to do whatever little I can to make it a less corrupt/unfair world.

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What a strange world we live in when people think a journalist should not be critical of his publication's (part) owners.

 

I think it’s fair game people criticising this but do people think he stood up against his employer the same way he’s shaming Newcastle fans?

 

Its a strange world when you cant criticise a hypocrite ...

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What a strange world we live in when people think a journalist should not be critical of his publication's (part) owners.

 

I think it’s fair game people criticising this but do people think he stood up against his employer the same way he’s shaming Newcastle fans?

 

Stood up to them by writing extremely critical pieces in a national newspaper maybe?

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It’s things like that which annoy me the most (That tweet) “you should do this, You should do that” people pushing their take on things onto others. Trying to guilt people or force people into taking a certain mind set I just don’t like seeing, and if/when people don’t, then being judged for it. If that reporter feels so strong about that idea, then why doesn’t he take a flag in to wave? Let people have their differing views, but f***ing hell man, stop trying to to push them onto people.

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What a strange world we live in when people think a journalist should not be critical of his publication's (part) owners.

 

I think it’s fair game people criticising this but do people think he stood up against his employer the same way he’s shaming Newcastle fans?

 

Its a strange world when you cant criticise a hypocrite ...

 

A hypocrite would be someone who says Newcastle fans should criticise but not do so himself. That's not the case.

 

All this playing the man instead of the ball is a bit pathetic.

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What a strange world we live in when people think a journalist should not be critical of his publication's (part) owners.

 

I think it’s fair game people criticising this but do people think he stood up against his employer the same way he’s shaming Newcastle fans?

 

Stood up to them by writing extremely critical pieces in a national newspaper maybe?

 

So has he, or anyone at the Independent come out and criticised readers who pay their subscription fees to read their stories knowing some of it is going back to the Saudis? This is my only issue with it all.

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What a strange world we live in when people think a journalist should not be critical of his publication's (part) owners.

 

I think it’s fair game people criticising this but do people think he stood up against his employer the same way he’s shaming Newcastle fans?

 

Stood up to them by writing extremely critical pieces in a national newspaper maybe?

 

So has he, or anyone at the Independent come out and criticised readers who pay their subscription fees to read their stories knowing some of it is going back to the Saudis? This is my only issue with it all.

 

Ultimately the ownership structure of the Independent is an irrelevance as far as NUFC are concerned.

 

Dismiss Delaney's concern with this "Gotcha!" if you like but the Twitterers are going to have their work cut out searching for similar to dismiss the concerns of everyone else. It's obvious that's what their strategy is, they did it with Holt last night as well. It speaks to how difficult this regime are to defend tbh, that the only way to do so is to attack the messenger. Good luck doing that with someone like David Conn.

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