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best thing to do is enjoy the Euros and wait and see what happens with the takeover from official sources i.e the club.  Anything else is just click bait.

 

Takeover happens - superb I will re-enage with NUFC

 

Takeover doesn't happen - crap and time to ditch football/NUFC entirely

 

 

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1 hour ago, Joey Linton said:

Yeah, this. There's actually something worth discussing tonight for a change.

 

Mind the only reason it's being linked to the takeover is because the over positive brigade led by the likes of  kennedy insisted Benitez getting another job would be bad news. Now that looks like happening they are doing a massive rewrite. 


Don’t you dare question it though! It was always irrelevant to the takeover, apparently… :lol: Nobody ever said it would be a bad sign.

 

This place is worse than RAWK at the moment.

 

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Really disappointing news about Benitez, and there's no point in sugar coating it being anything other than a worrying blow to the takeover chances. He would have been a perfect fit for our prospective new owners' project and where we currently stand as a club.

 

I'd love to think his time at Everton will be a disaster, especially considering the way their fans are reacting to it, but I don't think it will be. If they get over the LFC connection and his off-the-cuff comments about them all those years ago he will have them in the top six.

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It surely means nothing imo. I believe Rafa would have bitten their hand off if a takeover had developed but I don't blame him taking a guaranteed, equally tempting project whilst legal cases still have to be played out.

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While we do love Rafa, he loves to work. So while we're still in purgatory he can go and manage a club on his doorstep who have immense ambition, who could blame him for going for it.

 

Means absolutely feck all to our takeover chances and whether that will happen, people alluding to the two things being wedded are just twisting the story for clicks. 

 

I'm still amazed people fall for that nonsense, but alas we are in the era of some people believing anything they read on twitter, or any other cess filled thick as fuck spunk magnets they like to get their info from.

 

 

 

 

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As much as Rafa would have been great, with Saudi money bank rolling us I really couldn’t care less. 
 

Yeah Rafa had the personal touch and seemed to get the club and area, however with money I’m not sure he actually would be the best fit. 
 

With bigger signings comes increased expectations. His best spell in the transfer market appears to be his time at Napoli. However, Rafa has an obsession with collecting average full backs and whilst his opinion of Joelinton was clearly spot on, let’s not forget he wanted Jorgensen for 20 million plus. He got rid of Toney, Armstrong and I was less than impressed with his handling of Merino in the run in.

 

Rafa’s a tactical genius compared to the rest under Ashley, but with new ownership he’s not the be all and end all. 
 

Yeah Rafa would have grand ideas for the training ground and academy. But under Staveley they we’re looking at top European directors of football. These things will be developed regardless of Rafa being here or not. 


He was great whilst he was here, let’s remember him fondly, but hopefully we have a new exciting era coming our way soon.
 

 

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Think everyone realises that this is probably last chance saloon for our club to be in a position financially, to compete to a level that we all would dream for. We had a snip of it for a few years under Keegan and to a lesser extent Robson, but never would we have the financial power that this takeover would bring. Failure would in my opinion totally decimate the club and a lot of the fanbase. Never again could I see the posibility of owners with such wealth be in the market to buy NUFC. I agree that we would love to see an owner with even the ambition to move the club forward (not the same as PIFs financial power), but after 14 years of a total lack of anything, would at least give us something to get behind. 

 

The big issue in my mind is that I am pretty sure that Ashley would not be willing to reduce the current asking price of the club. It's still a huge surprise that PIF are by all accounts still in agreement with the original price. The club is nowhere near being worth the alleged agreed price, when you take into account the huge amount of money it will cost to improve just about every aspect of the club. We even have an example of this within the current consortium, with the Reubens easily being able to purchase the club on their own wealth, but they don't see the possible potential as an option for overall investment. This year has been a total and utter mind fuck, the huge excitement of the massive opportunites, being countered against the possible realism of more years of Ashley's stranglehold. It really is a scenario of a person having the wealth to shop at Harrods daily compared to a person on benefits planning for a fortnightly shop at Lidl. Total chalk and cheese.       

 

The cases are now in play and going through the courts, but although an end is in sight, the hope or dread of the decisions made just continues to roll on ever slowly. This is made worse as nobody know who will have the winning evidence/arguments; and this only results in a divided fanbase arguing their personal opinions, based mainly on guesswork only. 

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If Rafa goes to Everton, I know it's crazy, but I'll have lost a little bit more shine off the takeover, if it ever happens. I truly thought he as waiting for us, I'll be more than a little gutted if he goes to a club where the fans hate him rather than giving us just a little bit longer to get the takeover done.

 

Maybe rafa wasn't ever going to return under a new regime, but I've got no reason to believe that it was any more unlikely than the takeover itself, both are dreams I've been holding on to. Rafa just 'got' us.

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He may have wanted to come back to us and the prospective owners may have wanted him as well…

 

However

 

He is a workaholic. An ambitious owner and club wants to hire him and values him. He was always going to get another job and he likely was never waiting around for us. It was good speculation and maybe it could have happened in the right timeline whilst Rafa didn’t haven’t a job in front of him that he liked. 
 

that’s life and it’s not surprising. 
 

im gutted because I love Rafa and all he stands for and how he understood us fans and our potential. He believed in us when many of our own still don’t. 
 

But there are always other talented managers out there and there are others who will or do get us and the fans. Who will understand our potential and who will believe in us. 
 

these owners need to buy this club for anything to change. Transfer targets and manager targets will come and go. We need to be sold first. And when that project begins, our fortunes will change. 
 

I have faith, I don’t know when it will happen, but it sure will at some point. Clubs change hands. Ours will too. And we will finally get it back. 
 

hopefully this summer! 

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If we'd been taken over quicker I believe Rafa would've been here now. We're not though, ad it would be unfair if Rafa couldn't take what would essentially be his dream job from a personal perspective, living in Liverpool with his family - his main priority. Now he can combine his personal life with his professional life in a way he's wanted for a long time. I don't even know if given the choice between us and Everton that Rafa would choose us. 

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There’s no way to dress this up, it’s a knife in the back called hope. (not by Rafa btw, just the situation) We want the takeover and many of us wanted the takeover with Rafa so he could build something, something we all would have bought into.

 

I’m jealous of Everton, I really am. And come on, anyone saying now that they don’t care he’s not coming back here is lying to themselves as much as anyone else. The man is a perfect fit for this club and the region.

 

It’s not linked to the takeover at all though. It’s just a timing thing, one that again is against us. So small positives and all that but this one has definitely knocked the wind from my sails in terms of expectations. I don’t really know where we’re at at this point in time.

 

 

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Why would they?  They don’t own a club and unfortunately there’s probably less than a 50% chance that they’ll ever own us. 

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11 minutes ago, RS said:

Why would they?  They don’t own a club and unfortunately there’s probably less than a 50% chance that they’ll ever own us. 

Glass half empty bloke eh? There’s probably more than 50% chance that they’ll own us, pessimism/optimism, I know which one gives me hope, if it doesn’t happen then I’ll get over the disappointment.

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6 minutes ago, FloydianMag said:

There’s probably more than 50% chance that they’ll own us


Yeah? Gimme them sweet facts baby.

 

(And this comes from someone who thinks this is happening) 

 

 

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Likelihood: 51% = "more than 50% chance they'll own us."

Likelihood 49% = "less than a 50% chance that they'll ever own us."

 

Only 2% apart from agreeing.

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6 minutes ago, Ben said:

This is exhausting 

 

Just remember though, the PL are protecting the NUFC fans........we wont be able to handle ambition/success so we have to be protected from that!  God bless the PL!

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I’d take Howe any day of the weak, I think he’d be a good fit here even under Ashley. My preferred choice under SA ownership would be Conte, proven winner, ambitious, ruthless and I like his style of play/gameplan/system. Rafa would be the best all-round for me of course, but…

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1 hour ago, cubaricho said:


Yeah? Gimme them sweet facts baby.

 

(And this comes from someone who thinks this is happening) 

 

 

 

I’ve no more facts it’s happening than those who think it’s not happening. It’s 50/50.

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