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Callum Wilson (still at West Ham)


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1 hour ago, Fenham Mag said:

Watched him today, it’s actually pretty sad how far he was off it, was not nice to watch. 
 

Not sure what the club was playing at offering him a PAYP deal. 

 

 

 

The clip they had of him on MOTD was pretty tragic. 

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3 hours ago, Fenham Mag said:

Watched him today, it’s actually pretty sad how far he was off it, was not nice to watch. 
 

Not sure what the club was playing at offering him a PAYP deal. 

 

 

The same thing we were doing when we extended Ritchie, Dummett.

 

Sometimes a player can be important to keep around beyond on the pitch.

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I feel like this guy's importance to us gets overlooked, probably mainly because of how poor he was in the last 18 months and because of how good Isak was. He's our third highest scorer in the PL era, crucial goals to keep us up under Bruce and then the top scorer as qualified for the CL for the first time in a generation. Hope as time goes on his importance is recognised. 

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I don't really value his importance to the club pre-takeover as I saw him as an annoying get out of jail card at a time where I actively wanted the club relegated to force necessary changes.

 

He basically had one important season for us as far as I'm concerned, which was when we qualified for CL.

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39 minutes ago, Conjo said:

I don't really value his importance to the club pre-takeover as I saw him as an annoying get out of jail card at a time where I actively wanted the club relegated to force necessary changes.

 

He basically had one important season for us as far as I'm concerned, which was when we qualified for CL.

 

Eh? He pretty much single handedly kept us in the league under Bruce. If we had gone down there was no guarantee the PIF takeover would ever have happened.

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36 minutes ago, jonny1403 said:

 

Eh? He pretty much single handedly kept us in the league under Bruce. If we had gone down there was no guarantee the PIF takeover would ever have happened.

 

We'll never know, but before the takeover was on the horizon the most realistic way to get any positive change was for the club to cost Ashley money to keep afloat, thus increasing the chances of him selling up.

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3 hours ago, jonny1403 said:

 

Eh? He pretty much single handedly kept us in the league under Bruce. If we had gone down there was no guarantee the PIF takeover would ever have happened.

I rate Wilson highly but ASM was the biggest factor in us staying up next Bruce. 

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5 minutes ago, Rafalove said:

I rate Wilson highly but ASM was the biggest factor in us staying up next Bruce. 


Wilson, ASM, Willock, Lascelles.

 

without one of those four we are in League One still owned by Ashley.

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19 minutes ago, jonny1403 said:

Nah, in terms of end product Wilson contributed way more.


 

 

Without ASM, we weren’t even getting that far up the pitch. There was a stat floating around about the 33 game mark of asm’s first season. Without him in the team our points average was easily relegation form.  With him it was close to champions league. It’s why Bruce allowed him special treatment.

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17 hours ago, James said:


Wilson, ASM, Willock, Lascelles.

 

without one of those four we are in League One still owned by Ashley.


Even back then we had multiple better players in Lascelles’ position. Not sure what he did other than kiss Bruce’s arse at every opportunity. 

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22 hours ago, Conjo said:

I don't really value his importance to the club pre-takeover as I saw him as an annoying get out of jail card at a time where I actively wanted the club relegated to force necessary changes.

 

He basically had one important season for us as far as I'm concerned, which was when we qualified for CL.

I never understood this logic - NUFC were far less likely to be sold in the second division. 

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1 hour ago, TheBrownBottle said:

I never understood this logic - NUFC were far less likely to be sold in the second division. 

 

Disagree. Less likely to be sold to an ultra rich owner yes, but more likely to be sold in general. Literally anything was better than continuing with Ashley. I wasn't even particularly interested in PIF wealth, I just wanted someone competent that was willing to maximize income and only use the money the club could generate to be the best it could be.

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18 minutes ago, Conjo said:

 

Disagree. Less likely to be sold to an ultra rich owner yes, but more likely to be sold in general. Literally anything was better than continuing with Ashley. I wasn't even particularly interested in PIF wealth, I just wanted someone competent that was willing to maximize income and only use the money the club could generate to be the best it could be.

Debatable...look at the chancers Ashley was touting us to...Barry Moat and the like. Wealth doesnt guarantee competence where owners are involved...look at Blackburn with their Venkys debacle. Even Radcliffe with Man U. I dont recall what he paid for his 25% of them, but could have easily got us 100%and have change left over, and his decisions with them have been comedic

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8 hours ago, Conjo said:

 

Disagree. Less likely to be sold to an ultra rich owner yes, but more likely to be sold in general. Literally anything was better than continuing with Ashley. I wasn't even particularly interested in PIF wealth, I just wanted someone competent that was willing to maximize income and only use the money the club could generate to be the best it could be.

 

This isn't true at all. Why would Ashley sell us at a loss when he knew that with a small amount of investment he could get us back into the prem (he'd done it twice before) and sell us for double the value? It made zero sense for him to sell at a huge discount in the championship. 

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11 hours ago, Conjo said:

 

Disagree. Less likely to be sold to an ultra rich owner yes, but more likely to be sold in general. Literally anything was better than continuing with Ashley. I wasn't even particularly interested in PIF wealth, I just wanted someone competent that was willing to maximize income and only use the money the club could generate to be the best it could be.

Zero chance Ashley would sell at a loss in the second tier I reckon.  All just opinion, of course.  

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