triggs Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, Miggys First Goal said: All they've done is looked at the Deloitte Football Money League and taken the top teams from that. Aye, the top 15 are these 12 and Bayern, PSG and Dortmund who have rejected it. There's literally nothing more to it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 6 minutes ago, Miggys First Goal said: That's what Charnley's been doing all morning instead of attending this meeting. I hope so, he’ll have gone up in my estimations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 Quote "UEFA is a monopoly but it needs to be more transparent. We want to save football for the next 20 years, it is in a time of serious danger. If you win, you receive €120 to € 130m from UEFA but with #SuperLeague we will earn much more". Perez really needs a PR person. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Idiot Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 (edited) So, a very well connected dude I know has been told the ESL lot have a big media platform behind them (he thinks Amazon, doesn't know for sure) that wants to have high level sports globally and this is the way to secure them - since CL rights are sold piecemeal for each country. Edited April 20, 2021 by Village Idiot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 (edited) According to a graph on the BBC, Madrid's revenue has gone from around 700m to around 600m during covid. With similar relative drops for other clubs. That shouldn't cause an existential threat to your business, surely? Seems like football clubs are just really badly managed, and overspend for no good reason other than the culture they themselves have established. Edited April 20, 2021 by AyeDubbleYoo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 5 minutes ago, BlueStar said: ikr? Indeed. I know it's almost a secondary battle at the moment given we're on the brink of 'the end of football as we know it', but there really needs to be more scrutiny than ever on the regulators and associations that have let this happen. Launching anger and hatred at the financiers and schemers who have come up with this is like us unloading all of our anger at Steve Bruce. They warrant the hatred, certainly, but ultimately it's the powers that be who are to blame for us being in this position. When this inevitably sorts itself out, which I believe it will, their needs to be more pressure then ever on the way football has been allowed to become dictated by investors who care nothing for the game itself. This is the proof of how the power has totally shifted. Chickens coming home to roost, big time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 Not sure how reliable this dude is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieDazzler Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 (edited) I don't think they realise that a glorified exhibition league is not particularly appealing. Even in the US the franchise format only works due to the draft which you would t have here. Its not like it's a appealing concept and I'm opposed on moral grounds, it's a fundamentally shit concept. Obviously I am also opposed on moral grounds. Edited April 20, 2021 by GeordieDazzler Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpenC Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 1 minute ago, 54 said: Not sure how reliable this dude is. BBC has just reported the exact opposite, all staying strong and confident the storm will pass Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, AyeDubbleYoo said: According to a graph on the BBC, Madrid's revenue has gone from around 700m to around 600m during covid. With similar relative drops for other clubs. That shouldn't cause an existential threat to your business, surely? Seems like football clubs are just really badly managed, and overspend for no good reason other than the culture they themselves have established. its an existential threat when your up to your gills in debt and decided to start a renovation project on your stadium when theres no guarantee when fans can return and at what capacity in the next few years Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skeletor Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 Just now, OpenC said: BBC has just reported the exact opposite, all staying strong and confident the storm will pass Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, GeordieDazzler said: I don't think they realise that a glorified exhibition league is not particularly appealing. Even in the US the franchise format only works due to the draft which you would t have here. Its not like it's a appealing concept and I'm opposed on moral grounds, it's a fundamentally shit concept. honestly one of the things I don't get and maybe the amercians on here can explain it to me what the fuck is the appeal of the regular season in nfl etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 Just now, jdckelly said: its an existential threat when your up to your gills in debt and decided to start a renovation project on your stadium when theres no guarantee when fans can return and at what capacity in the next few years Havnt real madrid always had massive debt problems? Im sure its been mentioned on here a few times about them being bailed out by local authorities Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 Napoli have asked to join according to Corrier dello Sport. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 Complete aside. Just saw Schalke in the top 20 of the Deloitte Money League. Ouch. Somebody done fucked up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, jdckelly said: honestly one of the things I don't get and maybe the amercians on here can explain it to me what the fuck is the appeal of the regular season in nfl etc To see who qualifies for the playoffs? The league is more equal so it's not just the same teams every year Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Optimistic Nut said: Napoli have asked to join according to Corrier dello Sport. Wouldn't surprise me. De Laurentiis absolutely despises the FIGC. To be honest the level of distrust and dislike the Italian clubs have of their own sporting authorities (justified, tbf) I'd be surprised if more of the clubs haven't tried to break ranks as a fuck you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosenrot Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: Napoli have asked to join according to Corrier dello Sport. From a PR perspective, the Super League should quickly accept them to build momentum in the other direction. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 (edited) Who holds the player registrations by the way? Is it the FA? Premier league? Can they refuse to release them so the players cant be registered elsewhere? Edited April 20, 2021 by Lazarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 (edited) 7 minutes ago, triggs said: To see who qualifies for the playoffs? The league is more equal so it's not just the same teams every year Also, the salary cap. They have a hard salary cap in the NFL. Anybody can win the league. It's an actual meritocracy. Baseball on the other hand is massively fucked up. About 20 years back they passed an incredible barrier where a single player for the Yankees was earning more per year than all the players at an entire club. Edited April 20, 2021 by gazza ladra Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ola1949 Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 In 1998. Nufc were 5th in the money league. Higher than. Barcelona Chelsea Liverpool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosenrot Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdckelly Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, gazza ladra said: Also, the salary cap. They have a hard salary cap in the NFL. Anybody can win the league. It's an actual meritocracy. but also has a system in place where owners can cheerfully underfund the team and bank the cash without fear of any punishment in the form of relegation, hell the worse they do the better the draft pick so they are incentivised to do so! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miggys First Goal Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 2 minutes ago, Rosenrot said: They actually were waiting for Charnley to finish that Ritchie GIF. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 1 minute ago, jdckelly said: but also has a system in place where owners can cheerfully underfund the team and bank the cash without fear of any punishment in the form of relegation, hell the worse they do the better the draft pick so they are incentivised to do so! Agreed. I am an American and I love the pyramid (promotion and relegation). Our sports culture would be much richer if we had it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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