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1 minute ago, Wandy said:

 

I like Rafa too. But he is now at a club where a huge amount of their fans loathe NUFC. A look at the many social media platforms confirms this. They fucking hate us and have done since the mid 1990s when they laughably tagged us a "Sky Team". They shouldnt be anywhere near a relegation battle this season but the toxicity of their fanbase could drag them into one.

 

I don't believe that's more true than at any other club's set of fans, but it wouldn't bother me anyway tbh, being arsed about that stuff is a waste of energy. Everton are going to be absolutely nowhere near a relegation battle, if they were you'd probably have seen different reactions on here. 

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Just now, kisearch said:

 

I don't believe that's more true than at any other club's set of fans, but it wouldn't bother me anyway tbh, being arsed about that stuff is a waste of energy. Everton are going to be absolutely nowhere near a relegation battle, if they were you'd probably have seen different reactions on here. 

 

That is just because they seem to big a club to go down, but they aren't. If I could pick one surprise team to get dragged into the mire its them.

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3 minutes ago, Wandy said:

 

That is just because they seem to big a club to go down, but they aren't. If I could pick one surprise team to get dragged into the mire its them.

The team that hasn't been relegated since 1951, has quality players with more to return from injury, with Rafa Benitez as manager, closer in points to 5th as they are to 18th, and with Norwich, us, Burnley, Watford, Brentford, Crystal Palace, and Leeds knocking about? Absolutely no chance.

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1 minute ago, kisearch said:

The team that hasn't been relegated since 1951, has quality players with more to return from injury, with Rafa Benitez as manager, closer in points to 5th as they are to 18th, and with Norwich, us, Burnley, Watford, Brentford, Crystal Palace, and Leeds knocking about? Absolutely no chance.

 

Their history is irrelevant. They are the most toxic club in the league with a mediocre squad. We more than anyone know what can happen when you've got that combination.

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40 minutes ago, Dokko said:

 

People are that far up Rafa's arse its more important to see him win than their own clubs survival. 

 

Dare you to find one person on here that even implied such a thing post takeover.

 

People like Rafa, people therefore want to see him do well. What's so difficult to understand, and why get so riled up about it?

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6 minutes ago, Conjo said:

 

Dare you to find one person on here that even implied such a thing post takeover.

 

People like Rafa, people therefore want to see him do well. What's so difficult to understand, and why get so riled up about it?

 

Because his club have very much looked like they could get properly dragged into the relegation mire. The mire that we will be stuck in for a good while this season. Its not rocket science.

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Just now, Wandy said:

 

Because his club have very much looked like they could get properly dragged into the relegation mire. The mire that we will be stuck in for a good while this season. Its not rocket science.


How have they? They are literally 12th? Do you think Leicester will be “dragged into the mire” they will be absolutely fine and we’re never looking like being part of it 

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3 minutes ago, ManDoon said:


How have they? They are literally 12th? Do you think Leicester will be “dragged into the mire” they will be absolutely fine and we’re never looking like being part of it 

 

Have you been asleep for the last 6 or 7 weeks? Their club is tearing itself apart. Tonight's result just papers over the cracks. 

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Start whinging if anyone around here is wishing Rafa well when we're playing Everton. Not going to happen. If NUFC stay up or go down isn't going to depend on the success or failure of Everton.

 

And please stop insisting that drawing such as conclusion is self evident. It's absurd.

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1 minute ago, Wandy said:

 

Have you been asleep for the last 6 or 7 weeks? Their club is tearing itself apart. Tonight's result just papers over the cracks. 

No, they’ve lost a few games and the fans are protesting, they will be nowhere near relegation. It’s fanciful in the extreme to be thinking in those terms. 

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3 minutes ago, ManDoon said:

No, they’ve lost a few games and the fans are protesting, they will be nowhere near relegation. It’s fanciful in the extreme to be thinking in those terms. 

 

Bollocks. NUFC went down with a better squad in 2009 and 2016 and the toxicity off the pitch played a big part in that. Never underestimate the feel bad factor and its ability to send a club into a tailspin. All that needs to happen is EFC to go on another bad run, sack Rafa and then get a shoddy replacement for them to get locked into the bottom 7.

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what? Our 2009 squad was garbage, look at this line up for the final game :

 

 Harper, Coloccini, Steven Taylor, Edgar, Duff, Guthrie, Nolan (Owen 66), Butt, Lovenkrands (Jose Enrique 57), Viduka (Ameobi 75), Martins.~

 

how is that better than what Everton put out tonight? 
 

Our 2016 squad was alright but not as good as this Everton squad, no way.  Doucoure and Allan are one of the best CM pairs in the prem. DCL is an elite striker, they have England’s GK. Nah, not having that at all. 

 

 

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13 minutes ago, ManDoon said:

Harper, Coloccini, Steven Taylor, Edgar, Duff, Guthrie, Nolan (Owen 66), Butt, Lovenkrands (Jose Enrique 57), Viduka (Ameobi 75), Martins.

What formation was that? 433 with Taylor and Duff at fullback, midfield trio of Guthrie, Nolan and Butt? :lol:

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I still maintain that the main back 4 that season was on paper one the best I've known us to have (Beye - best RB I've seen at Newcastle, Coloccini - not great that season but became excellent, Bassong - had a good season despite us being shit, Enrique - had an okay season and became excellent) and that it's an excellent example of why a good defence isn't enough when you have an absolutely terrible centre midfield protecting it (Butt, Smith, Nolan)

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24 minutes ago, ManDoon said:

what? Our 2009 squad was garbage, look at this line up for the final game :

 

 Harper, Coloccini, Steven Taylor, Edgar, Duff, Guthrie, Nolan (Owen 66), Butt, Lovenkrands (Jose Enrique 57), Viduka (Ameobi 75), Martins.~

 

how is that better than what Everton put out tonight? 
 

Our 2016 squad was alright but not as good as this Everton squad, no way.  Doucoure and Allan are one of the best CM pairs in the prem. DCL is an elite striker, they have England’s GK. Nah, not having that at all. 

 

 


I watched a vid comparing the Everton and Arsenal squads (before the match) - the slant of which was Everton have a better XI and Rafa was doing a shite job. (Some real stretches included, like Coleman over Tomyasu…)

 

Next day I’m reading someone compare the same XI to our relegation teams…

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5 minutes ago, kisearch said:

I still maintain that the main back 4 that season was on paper one the best I've known us to have (Beye - best RB I've seen at Newcastle, Coloccini - not great that season but became excellent, Bassong - had a good season despite us being shit, Enrique - had an okay season and became excellent) and that it's an excellent example of why a good defence isn't enough when you have an absolutely terrible centre midfield protecting it (Butt, Smith, Nolan)

Yeah but colo and Enrique both had awful seasons ( bassong was great) probably due to that midfield but also adjusting to the league. Everton have Digne and Coleman as full backs. Both PL pedigree 

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5 minutes ago, ManDoon said:

Yeah but colo and Enrique both had awful seasons ( bassong was great) probably due to that midfield but also adjusting to the league. Everton have Digne and Coleman as full backs. Both PL pedigree 

Wasn't comparing to Everton because like you I think the idea of relegation, that their squad is poor, or that the situations are comparable is ridiculous. Was just a separate point tbh. Enrique was alright that season I thought, Colo had a few shockers but yeah definitely because they were adjusting/being constantly exposed because of probably the worst midfield I've seen at Newcastle.

 

 

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Anyone thinking Everton are getting relegated must have missed the whole point of Rafa's stint at Newcastle. He survived with the likes of Joselu up front ffs. 

 

Was chuffed for him yesterday, even if you aren't a fan of his football, you have to appreciate how he tried to raise the standards here and was prepared to go up against his boss to push it through. 

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