B-more Mag Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-more Mag Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 Gonna repeatedly slam my head against the desk for a while, just to lighten things up for a bit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 God the US is utterly fucked. Can't see anyway you guys even start to go towards a more progressive nature, given anyone who has the gaul to have even a slightly "socialist" policy are utterly villainized. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomato Deuce Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 Alito’s always gotta be near the top of the “snide cunt” power rankings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomas Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 (edited) 23 minutes ago, B-more Mag said: I fucking hate Supreme Court opinion release days now. sooo dumb this down a shade for me because i've only read light summaries but it sounds like they're saying confessions (or any evidence) disclosed in non-custodial situations is different and doesn't need to be mirandized? I thought that always was the case - anything you say to the cops is bad, all the time, forever, whether or not you've been read your rights? Not saying this is good, mind. edit: is there some nuance over what an "interrogation" is that I'm missing? Edited June 23 by thomas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomato Deuce Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 (edited) It’s not much solace, but it feels like this court will eventually have more of its decisions overruled by future courts than any other. edit: yes yes there won’t be another court, the collapse of American democracy is nigh, heat death of the universe, etc. etc. Edited June 23 by Tomato Deuce Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomato Deuce Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 It’s not even hyperbolic to suggest that if you’re a straight white Christian who loves guns, this is the court for you. “Free exercise” + unfettered access to firearms is a license to do whatever you’d like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomato Deuce Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 24 minutes ago, Tomato Deuce said: Alito’s always gotta be near the top of the “snide cunt” power rankings. It would be so easy to rile him up in public. What a punk bitch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-more Mag Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 23 minutes ago, thomas said: sooo dumb this down a shade for me because i've only read light summaries but it sounds like they're saying confessions (or any evidence) disclosed in non-custodial situations is different and doesn't need to be mirandized? I thought that always was the case - anything you say to the cops is bad, all the time, forever, whether or not you've been read your rights? Not saying this is good, mind. edit: is there some nuance over what an "interrogation" is that I'm missing? Basically what it's saying is that a Miranda violation doesn't automatically constitute a 5th Amendment violation (because Miranda rights are meant to protect against 5th Amendment violations but they do not set the standard for whether the 5th Amendment is violated); therefore, establishing a Miranda violation is not, in and of itself, enough to sustain a suit under Section 1983 (which provides that government officers can be sued civilly for violations of constitutional rights). In other words, showing that an officer violated Miranda rights isn't enough to maintain a suit against the officer under Section 1983--you'd have to show something more. This quote from the opinion is probably the most succinct statement of the holding: "In sum, a violation of Miranda does not necessarily constitute a violation of the Constitution, and therefore such a violation does not constitute “the deprivation of [a] right . . . secured by the Constitution.” 42 U. S. C. §1983." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 Gonna be a fun summer in the city. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 This is the exact kind of shit that happens when people say Trump wasn’t that bad. They don’t think about all the judges and people he put into place, all the way to the Supreme Court, that make these things happen. All of these cases started in lower courts and got kicked up to this level so they could become de-facto laws. That’s his legacy, not the fucking dumb tweets. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consortium of one Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 Part of me thinks they are releasing a bunch of shitty decisions in order to hide overturning Roe v Wade. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 1 hour ago, Consortium of one said: Part of me thinks they are releasing a bunch of shitty decisions in order to hide overturning Roe v Wade. Think it’s the opposite actually. Get quite a few shitty decisions done today. Release Roe tomorrow and we immediately forget about the ones from today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miercoles Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 It's just exhausting. I used to find solace in the fact that I would probably be very old or dead by the time things really fell apart, but now that I have a kid, a daughter no less, it's really really fucking depressing to see each of these decisions come out. She is so fucked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFlan Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 3 hours ago, Mike said: Gonna be a fun summer in the city. Coulda had a fuckin sick gun had I stayed just 2 more years Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 Can deffo see the USA becoming a puritanical dictatorship. Possibly within my lifetime too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-more Mag Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 Don't often see Dred Scott cited in support of a legal proposition these days. Clarence Thomas really bucking trends. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 52 minutes ago, Lazarus said: Can deffo see the USA becoming a puritanical dictatorship. Possibly within my lifetime too. Lifetime? Fucking before we win something, Lazza. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 6 minutes ago, Mike said: Lifetime? Fucking before we win something, Lazza. You not fancying your chances like? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 Just now, Lazarus said: You not fancying your chances like? I desperately want out of here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 Its shit here too mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-more Mag Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 The pardon seekers are apparently the ones everyone would pretty much guess: Matt Gaetz Mo Brooks Andy Biggs Louie Gohmert Scott Perry Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillingtonMag Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 Absolutely mental this lot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-more Mag Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 Looking for fucking blanket pardons for everybody who voted to reject the AZ and PA electors. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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