The Bonk Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 5 minutes ago, vexred said: I think he'll end up back with us, after 4 or 5 years at Citeh or wherever he ends up. I'd hate to see him playing for Man U. Whoever did the Anderson deal really fucked up by not putting in a buy back clause. We'd be in a great position if they had. We were in a vice grip of PSR, no chance that get's done with a clause. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 (edited) 1 hour ago, Monters said: With 5 subs and attacking the cups there’s plenty of games, we play with three midfielders so six is the optimum. Joelinton will always miss games, Ramsey too and Bruno has picked up the worst injury of his Newcastle career. Won’t argue about price being a potential blocker but not squad numbers or I’d hope to never read posts criticising Eddie for lack of rotation. We only played 48 games last season even with a League Cup finals run and two wins in the FA Cup. We'll play close to 60 this season even if we're eliminated in both remaining cups right away. It's a huge difference, and it doesn't make sense to spend a hundred million on someone who may only start 20 games when we face severe financial restrictions and there are so many other areas of the squad that must be addressed. Edited March 6 by oldtype Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 6 minutes ago, vexred said: I think he'll end up back with us, after 4 or 5 years at Citeh or wherever he ends up. I'd hate to see him playing for Man U. Whoever did the Anderson deal really fucked up by not putting in a buy back clause. We'd be in a great position if they had. We were selling from a position of weakness so putting in a buy back clause would have been very difficult Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 And in any case, a buy back clause isn't much use if the player would rather go elsewhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Sad as it is, he's simply valued too highly. Competent DM/8 hybrid and English tax. It's always a non-starter. If he goes City I'll be miffed, mainly cause those cheating cunts are hoovering up talent atm (Trafford, Cherki, Reijnders, Semenyo, Khusanov, etc). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 He'll stay for a couple of years, be okay and they'll have forgotten about him 12 months after he's left. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vexred Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 51 minutes ago, The Bonk said: We were in a vice grip of PSR, no chance that get's done with a clause. We did them a favour by taking a keeper at a crazy price. We could've got a clause in there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 Just now, vexred said: We did them a favour by taking a keeper at a crazy price. We could've got a clause in there. I don’t think we willingly did that… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vexred Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 6 minutes ago, SteV said: I don’t think we willingly did that… Yes, the deal was weighted in their favour. I think we could've got a clause for say £60M, he wasn't a star at the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteV Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 (edited) 21 minutes ago, vexred said: Yes, the deal was weighted in their favour. I think we could've got a clause for say £60M, he wasn't a star at the time. Given the situation we were in, we were in absolutely no position to ask for anything other than the amount that would get us out the shit. If you’re Forest, why would you even contemplate giving us anything other than the bare minimum we required? There was absolutely no chance of any kind of clause. Edited March 6 by SteV Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monters Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 (edited) 2 hours ago, oldtype said: We only played 48 games last season even with a League Cup finals run and two wins in the FA Cup. We'll play close to 60 this season even if we're eliminated in both remaining cups right away. It's a huge difference, and it doesn't make sense to spend a hundred million on someone who may only start 20 games when we face severe financial restrictions and there are so many other areas of the squad that must be addressed. I never argued re price, in fact even agreed that price was a blocker. I simply disagree with your assertion that 5 first team midfielders is enough. Too mix with the best you need quality replacing quality and midfield is arguably the most important part of the team. I read a lot of criticism on this forum of Eddie Howe not rotating enough, that cannot and will not happen until we have squad strong enough to do so. I’d also like to think we a building a squad with the aim of regularly competing in Europe and not solely for next season Edited March 6 by Monters Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 1 minute ago, Monters said: I never argued re price, in fact even agreed that price was a blocker. I simply disagree with your assertion that 5 first team midfielders is enough. Too mix with the best you need quality replacing quality and midfield is arguably the most important part of the team. I read a lot of criticism on this forum of Eddie Howe not rotating enough, that cannot and will not happen until we have squad strong enough to do so. I’d also like to think we a building a squad with the aim of regularly competing in Europe and not solely for next season I just think that in a year with no Europe five is obviously enough, and honestly Willock is overqualified as a #6 too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monters Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 1 minute ago, oldtype said: I just think that in a year with no Europe five is obviously enough, and honestly Willock is overqualified as a #6 too. ‘Obviously’ it’s not obvious to me… If 5 is enough who would play tomorrow? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketsbaia Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Assuming we buy a LB this summer, Hall can sometimes slot into CM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtype Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 5 hours ago, Ketsbaia said: Assuming we buy a LB this summer, Hall can sometimes slot into CM As can Woltemade for that matter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colos Short and Curlies Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 41 minutes ago, oldtype said: As can Woltemade for that matter Don't forget Schar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Willock is pretty much a certainty to leave and even if Tonali decides to stay we should probably be listening to offers for Joelinton. A first team CM should be a priority. Granted I think Edward will want to keep Big Joe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 If Joelinton leaves this summer, I’ll drink me own piss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Ederson would be great. Finally think this is the time when we’d be able to get him for a decent fee from Atalanta. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Prontonise Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 8 hours ago, Ketsbaia said: Assuming we buy a LB this summer, Hall can sometimes slot into CM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 7 minutes ago, Rich said: If Joelinton leaves this summer, I’ll drink me own piss. Aye, especially with other experienced squad members like Trippier and potentially Schar leaving. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 I think Big Joe is probably too injury prone for anyone to offer us anything that would be worth considering. Which is good news for us seeing as he's fucking mint and one of the great pin-ups for this whole era. Sees out his contract imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Kees Smit or Ayyoub Bouaddi would both be young and exciting signings to move us forward this summer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 4 hours ago, Yorkie said: I think Big Joe is probably too injury prone for anyone to offer us anything that would be worth considering. Which is good news for us seeing as he's fucking mint and one of the great pin-ups for this whole era. Sees out his contract imo. Wew, that was a ride. I apologize for all the shit I almost said, Yorks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjohnson Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 We really are blinkered to Anderson. He was barely more than competent for us, but has done fairly well in a team that has made him a central figure. Only hope one of the 6 go and waste 6 figures on him rather than a real midfielder Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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