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OFFICIAL: Steve Bruce leaves Newcastle United by mutual consent


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  1. 1. Are you satisfied with Steve Bruce's performance at the club?

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I think a lot of people want him binned before Sunday because they rightly want a fresh start and don’t want anything to downcast what should be a day of celebration.

 

I’m fairly relaxed now and as long as he’s gone by Sunday, I’ll be pleased. If he’s still there though, it will be a disappointment and a missed opportunity.

 

That said, I think it’s fairly obvious to all it’s only a matter of time before he does get canned.

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I mean it feels pretty obvious to me that this takeover u-turn caught everyone by surprise and currently we are bare bones in terms of high ranking positions. So it looks like whoever is running the show is looking to put in place the top people who are going to be running the club for the next 5 to 10 years and it will then be down to them if they sack a manager and who they replace him with. 

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In my view. just because we have new owners doesn't mean Bruce is no longer utterly wrong for the job. No wins, awful record, condescending to his "fellow supporters" etc. Same shit, same damage, needs gone. 

 

If they're pussy-footing around because they don't want to make enemies...then they're not the business people they make out. However, the only logical reason (for me) is that they want a DOF in place. If so, they need to say something along the lines of "we're in the process of employing a DOF, and until then, no footballing decisions will be made". You know, this transparency they've been bleating on about. 

 

Do that and a lot of people's understandable anxiety will simmer down. 

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3 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

I think this 1000th game thing is massively overplayed. 
 

 

 

Aye, the commentators thought it was the Wolves game until Bruce corrected them. Either way, hope he's binned today, although it'll be fun to see him squirm in his press conference tomorrow when he gets the inevitable questions on when he's going.

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As long as they don’t do any sort of presentation or acknowledgment of his 1000 game before kick off I can just about accept 1 more game in charge. If he’s in charge any longer after Sunday then I would be concerned.

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Great to see the middle ground in this debate is totally going out of the window.

 

You can have legitimate reasons for thinking Bruce should be binned with immediate effect without moaning or being knee jerk.

 

You can also (even at the same time, gasp) realise there will be a lot of upheaval in the upper management of the club in the coming weeks and this decision, when it is eventually made, probably won't have a long term impact or reflect on the future running of the club.

 

The pathetic hyperbole and name calling that seem to come with any kind of debate these days really isn't necessary.

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31 minutes ago, Karjala said:

How on earth has a career-average manager got a contract with an £8m payout clause? Ashley wont spend money on players so amazed that clause exists.

 

Rumour is that he does have clauses in that allow him to be sacked for less or even maybe for nothing, but only after certain amount of the season has passed and if the team is below a certain league position.

 

If we sack him before then, we have to pay the full 3 years of his contract up at £2.7m per year. This is because of his rolling contract, where every morning when he wakes up he still has 3 years left, it keeps resetting.

 

It all makes perfect sense when you factor in Ashley's utter lack of ambition whereby anything from 17th or up is deemed to be fine. Why would Ashley ever contemplate sacking him if he's not in the relegation positions?

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Remember Sheikh Mansour and the Abu Dhabi group inherited Mark Hughes as sitting manager at Man City when they took over and the truth of the matter is surely that Steve Bruce is just a fat Mark Hughes......   Hughes lasted from September - December before he was peddled out.

 

I know that Bruce represents a lot of what we hated about what will be referred to in the future as  "the Ashley years" but, we know he will be gone at some point in the future.  Our owners have already stated that they have ambitious plans and that is enough for me to be more relaxed over who is running the current team.  

 

The relegation fears should be behind us soon - even if by January we are still hovering around the bottom a couple of decent signings to plug some gaps in the squad will see us OK until the end of the season, this year is about stabilisation...  next year we should see real progress and advancement!  I don't really care who is in the dugout on Sunday, I am going to have a day to remember regardless!!  

 

 

 

 

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I really want him gone before Sunday. Not been to a game since 2016 and can’t wait for it. Seeing that oaf in the dugout will put a dampner on the game no matter what the result. Last week was such a relief that Ashley was gone, Bruce is the final person which needs disposing for it to feel like a totally fresh start. Does anyone think Charnley still being involved may be why he’s still here? They’ve got a reportedly good relationship and I worry the consortium might be leaning on him forminformation whilst they restructure the upper end of the club. 

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1 minute ago, pinkeye said:

Remember Sheikh Mansour and the Abu Dhabi group inherited Mark Hughes as sitting manager at Man City when they took over and the truth of the matter is surely that Steve Bruce is just a fat Mark Hughes......   Hughes lasted from September - December before he was peddled out.

 

I know that Bruce represents a lot of what we hated about what will be referred to in the future as  "the Ashley years" but, we know he will be gone at some point in the future.  Our owners have already stated that they have ambitious plans and that is enough for me to be more relaxed over who is running the current team.  

 

The relegation fears should be behind us soon - even if by January we are still hovering around the bottom a couple of decent signings to plug some gaps in the squad will see us OK until the end of the season, this year is about stabilisation...  next year we should see real progress and advancement!  I don't really care who is in the dugout on Sunday, I am going to have a day to remember regardless!!  

 

 

 

 

Difference is though, City weren’t second bottom without a win when they took over. There’s no footballing reason to justify keeping Bruce in the job. 7 wins in 37 games is completely unacceptable. 

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4 minutes ago, pinkeye said:

Remember Sheikh Mansour and the Abu Dhabi group inherited Mark Hughes as sitting manager at Man City when they took over and the truth of the matter is surely that Steve Bruce is just a fat Mark Hughes......   Hughes lasted from September - December before he was peddled out.

 

I know that Bruce represents a lot of what we hated about what will be referred to in the future as  "the Ashley years" but, we know he will be gone at some point in the future.  Our owners have already stated that they have ambitious plans and that is enough for me to be more relaxed over who is running the current team.  

 

The relegation fears should be behind us soon - even if by January we are still hovering around the bottom a couple of decent signings to plug some gaps in the squad will see us OK until the end of the season, this year is about stabilisation...  next year we should see real progress and advancement!  I don't really care who is in the dugout on Sunday, I am going to have a day to remember regardless!!  

 

 

 

 

 

It was a completely different scenario. Hughes was highly regarded at that time. Bruce is at the end of a 1000 game stinking run and has been utter wank for years. Hughes deserved to hold his job for a bit at the time, for them to see what he can do. Everyone knows what you will get from Bruce.

 

 

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I know it's probably seen as tempting fate, but I really have no idea how anyone can really be worried in the slightest about relegation. We know just how bad you have to be to go down and for me it would take Bruce being here until Christmas and for Newcastle to still be in the bottom 3 at that point for it to seem like a legitimate threat that the owners couldn't buy their way out of. 

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1 minute ago, Jordan said:

Difference is though, City weren’t second bottom without a win when they took over. There’s no footballing reason to justify keeping Bruce in the job. 7 wins in 37 games is completely unacceptable. 

 

Well the difference was that it happened without anyone having the slightest clue it was going on and it also happened some weeks into the season ahead of our take over...   I completely agree that there seems to be no reason to keep Bruce in his job and his record is absolutely disgraceful... I am just not letting that detail get in the way of what is going to be a glorious future which starts on Sunday at 4:30pm....  :clap2:

 

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1 minute ago, Jordan said:

Difference is though, City weren’t second bottom without a win when they took over. There’s no footballing reason to justify keeping Bruce in the job. 7 wins in 37 games is completely unacceptable. 

 

I doubt they are keeping him in the dugout for footballing reasons. It's probably more likely one or both of the following...

 

1. The sign off for £8m sacking needs PIF approval and that process is brand new and not yet slick to do it as quickly as we all would like.

2. Amanda and co wanted to speak to everyone at the club and get a plan together for the next move, which may involve having replacements and other structure considerations ready first before they pull the trigger on Bruce.

 

Second from bottom this early in to the season isn't that much of a factor.

 

 

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