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nevermind the chronicle, 

"six things my kids noticed":

why does he still play joelinton after  being given so many chances and still being shit? fraser, murphy and gayle are all fit.

why has hayden started in defence? 

why isnt he talking to the players? (the break during the medical incident).

why hasnt he changed anything yet?

why has he taken our striker off but brought another 2 wingers on?

why was that man shouting at you when you were chanting "we want brucie out!" ("support the team" lot out if full force again).

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1000 games in mangement

30% win rate

 

300 career wins from 1000 games across Championship and Premier League seasons, which includes seasons he earned promotion (which probably skews a majority of wins into single seasons). 47 years of being involved in professional football with the transition from player to manager happening seamlessly, and before a time managers were required to have an UEFA Pro License. This makes me believe the guy has probably had little formal education in football coaching or management and has simply been allowed to coast through as a relic'd grandfather of a bygone era. I remember Glenn Roeder being gifted a Pro License status so he could transition from caretaker to take the management role of Newcastle, which was 2006/7. Bruce was even before that. 

 

Those who say he has received unfair criticism and abuse mustn’t realise just how lucky Steve Bruce is to have carved a career in management, given his clear lack of qualifications beyond "he won the league with Man U". He has earned millions from several teams achieving what I can only sum up as 'about as good as you or I could do', although perhaps that's slightly unfair since we wouldn't have that initial reputation of being an ex-professional footballer. It must become clear quickly, and disappointingly so, just how little this man knows about the game, or has evolved (at all) over the decades when he casually rocks up to training once in a while. I remember Rafa speaking about the lazy and unprofessional attitude the NUFC players seemed to have towards training when he arrived. How the players would arrive in patches and walk on to the training pitch without any urgency. The manager always sets the tone and standards; either by example such as Rafa being there every day jogging to get onto the training pitch and being the first one there, or passively; such as a manager turning up to training 2 out of 5 days. 

 

What do you associate a Steve Bruce team with? The high press? Overlapping fullbacks? A low block with a counter attack to a bigman/small man pair? Controlling the possession? There is no identity. No gameplan on how to win beyond a formation and pass it to the best player and hope he does something. Our goal against Tottenham today was an example of a phase of play. The ball started on the left, drawing the defending team across, it switched across to the right, ASM held it up drawing the defenders towards him, the full back overlapped into the space and crossed it. I can't really recall the last time that happened prior to today. Where we created a goal through a phase of play, either accidentally like today or through design exploiting an opponent's weakness. Most of our goals come from individual play. 

Our defenders don't know if they're pressing, dropping off, man-marking or anything in between. They're stretched wide. All. The. Time. 

 

If I could stomach it, I would watch footage of other Bruce teams to see if similar issues popped up. Whatever today was about (1000 game farewell parting gift or genuine hold the fort while we look for your replacement) it was just another example of Steve Bruce's ability to somehow mismanage a game situation. 1-0. 1-1. 1-2. All within 30 minutes. Does Steve Bruce consider his job done once he's named his starting 11. Is it the player's fault once kick off happens for anything that happens afterwards. Where's the feedback, the adjustments, the changes, the awareness of our own faults and the oppositions' weaknesses to exploit. Sure he stands there on the sideline, but he isn't doing much. He looks exasperated, as if confused by what's happening in front of him. How can this be, did I not put 11 people on the field in a formation I thought would win. 

 

What I don't understand is the role Ben Dawson and Graeme Jones are currently playing, and I'm only talking about their role since I'm a little familiar with what they're like as coaches. They're both technically minded and very tactically driven coaches, both of which believe in being progressive within football, constantly learning and seeking knowledge from others. It must be odd to be involved in the first team and match day and witness the absolute clueless mishap on the pitch. Is Bruce too proud to take their advice? Too stubborn to change? Is he afraid of appearing to be undermined by other coaches' inputs? If so why have them involved? Yet, he'll chat with Agnew and Clemence. What is he asking them? Do they give advice or are they offering condolence and reassuring harddone by stories. 

 

Anyone who watched Newcastle since Bruce's appointment will have seen just how many of our wins were actual luck, or as we called it 'Shithousery'. This is reflected in his mannerisms and press conferences with often recycled soundbites such as "have a crack", "dust ourselves off", "we won the first half", "we deserved something". These are the phrases of someone who isn't entirely sure or convinced or perhaps an old leathered faced hard done by semi-pro boxer that one time appeared at MSG on the undercard of a huge prize fight (a story they'll often tell over a bottle of whatever is going).

 

As a professional footballer there are no doubts he was a winner; as a football manager there are no doubts he is a professional loser. Cracked me up when they said on Sky Sports whatever happens there will be clubs lining up to have him as their manager should he leave Newcastle. No former club seems to speak in high regards of him, and there doesn't seem to be many clubs out there that would want him as their manager either. I disliked Pardew for his arrogance and defence of Mike Ashley, but at least you could see he was trying to manage and coach. With Steve Bruce there is nothing other than I'm Steve Bruce, I've managed 1000 games of professional football. 

 

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19 minutes ago, elbee909 said:

Don't read the BBC match report comments, will boil the piss. 'Blah blah disrespectful hope you go down'.  Change a-comin' you massive twats

 

 

 

 

We are going to be hated by a significant proportion of the country from now on so we had better get used to it. Very thick skins are gonna be needed from here on in.

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23 minutes ago, elbee909 said:

Don't read the BBC match report comments, will boil the piss. 'Blah blah disrespectful hope you go down'.  Change a-comin' you massive twats

 

 

 

I wont but its utter madness.

Like they wouldn't call for the sacking of a manager that had plummeted them from midtable to 2nd bottom, starting the season with 0 wins in 9 and invariably playing utterly shambolic football whilst being lazy and incapable of forming a relationship with the fans.

If we can't ask for Bruce to be sacked, none of them c*nts can do the same until they're in an even worse situation.

 

Bruce is being shielded more than Arsene Wenger - one the greatest managers in football history - was.

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1 hour ago, OCK said:

1000 games in mangement

30% win rate

 

300 career wins from 1000 games across Championship and Premier League seasons, which includes seasons he earned promotion (which probably skews a majority of wins into single seasons). 47 years of being involved in professional football with the transition from player to manager happening seamlessly, and before a time managers were required to have an UEFA Pro License. This makes me believe the guy has probably had little formal education in football coaching or management and has simply been allowed to coast through as a relic'd grandfather of a bygone era. I remember Glenn Roeder being gifted a Pro License status so he could transition from caretaker to take the management role of Newcastle, which was 2006/7. Bruce was even before that. 

 

Those who say he has received unfair criticism and abuse mustn’t realise just how lucky Steve Bruce is to have carved a career in management, given his clear lack of qualifications beyond "he won the league with Man U". He has earned millions from several teams achieving what I can only sum up as 'about as good as you or I could do', although perhaps that's slightly unfair since we wouldn't have that initial reputation of being an ex-professional footballer. It must become clear quickly, and disappointingly so, just how little this man knows about the game, or has evolved (at all) over the decades when he casually rocks up to training once in a while. I remember Rafa speaking about the lazy and unprofessional attitude the NUFC players seemed to have towards training when he arrived. How the players would arrive in patches and walk on to the training pitch without any urgency. The manager always sets the tone and standards; either by example such as Rafa being there every day jogging to get onto the training pitch and being the first one there, or passively; such as a manager turning up to training 2 out of 5 days. 

 

What do you associate a Steve Bruce team with? The high press? Overlapping fullbacks? A low block with a counter attack to a bigman/small man pair? Controlling the possession? There is no identity. No gameplan on how to win beyond a formation and pass it to the best player and hope he does something. Our goal against Tottenham today was an example of a phase of play. The ball started on the left, drawing the defending team across, it switched across to the right, ASM held it up drawing the defenders towards him, the full back overlapped into the space and crossed it. I can't really recall the last time that happened prior to today. Where we created a goal through a phase of play, either accidentally like today or through design exploiting an opponent's weakness. Most of our goals come from individual play. 

Our defenders don't know if they're pressing, dropping off, man-marking or anything in between. They're stretched wide. All. The. Time. 

 

If I could stomach it, I would watch footage of other Bruce teams to see if similar issues popped up. Whatever today was about (1000 game farewell parting gift or genuine hold the fort while we look for your replacement) it was just another example of Steve Bruce's ability to somehow mismanage a game situation. 1-0. 1-1. 1-2. All within 30 minutes. Does Steve Bruce consider his job done once he's named his starting 11. Is it the player's fault once kick off happens for anything that happens afterwards. Where's the feedback, the adjustments, the changes, the awareness of our own faults and the oppositions' weaknesses to exploit. Sure he stands there on the sideline, but he isn't doing much. He looks exasperated, as if confused by what's happening in front of him. How can this be, did I not put 11 people on the field in a formation I thought would win. 

 

What I don't understand is the role Ben Dawson and Graeme Jones are currently playing, and I'm only talking about their role since I'm a little familiar with what they're like as coaches. They're both technically minded and very tactically driven coaches, both of which believe in being progressive within football, constantly learning and seeking knowledge from others. It must be odd to be involved in the first team and match day and witness the absolute clueless mishap on the pitch. Is Bruce too proud to take their advice? Too stubborn to change? Is he afraid of appearing to be undermined by other coaches' inputs? If so why have them involved? Yet, he'll chat with Agnew and Clemence. What is he asking them? Do they give advice or are they offering condolence and reassuring harddone by stories. 

 

Anyone who watched Newcastle since Bruce's appointment will have seen just how many of our wins were actual luck, or as we called it 'Shithousery'. This is reflected in his mannerisms and press conferences with often recycled soundbites such as "have a crack", "dust ourselves off", "we won the first half", "we deserved something". These are the phrases of someone who isn't entirely sure or convinced or perhaps an old leathered faced hard done by semi-pro boxer that one time appeared at MSG on the undercard of a huge prize fight (a story they'll often tell over a bottle of whatever is going).

 

As a professional footballer there are no doubts he was a winner; as a football manager there are no doubts he is a professional loser. Cracked me up when they said on Sky Sports whatever happens there will be clubs lining up to have him as their manager should he leave Newcastle. No former club seems to speak in high regards of him, and there doesn't seem to be many clubs out there that would want him as their manager either. I disliked Pardew for his arrogance and defence of Mike Ashley, but at least you could see he was trying to manage and coach. With Steve Bruce there is nothing other than I'm Steve Bruce, I've managed 1000 games of professional football. 

 

Brilliant, just brilliant.

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Fuck paying the Corbridge cabbage off. Keep him on the books to sweep the terraces, clean the bogs, wash  the windows, polish the chrome on the showers,  etc. Piss him off so he walks away, the useless c*nt!

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29 minutes ago, toontownman said:

It's like the guillotine had a malfunction and they are working to repair it. Everyone is just standing around waiting.

 

"Well this is awkward.. sorry about this Steve." 


Need a big fucking guillotine to chop that fat cunts head off

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