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Simon Jordan is a chancing spiv gobshite who totally has it in for us because he simply doesn’t understand the basics of supporting a big team in the north. Simon Jordan didn’t go to a school where all his mates supported either one local club or their rivals.

As for Bruce, I’m starting to get the whiff of him having had enough of the job already, and would welcome any resignation, but if he has no intention of resigning the least he can do for all our sakes is stop picking fights with the fans and keep his mouth shut unless it’s to verbally fellate us. 

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31 minutes ago, reefatoon said:

The fans at the Sheff Utd game need to do their job. Can’t be letting this dick head off at all. Fucking rinse the bastard.

Cabbage time

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That Luke Edwards article, dear God! I wasn't going to read it, but curiosity got the better of me. It's by far his biggest piece of Bruce propaganda to date. 

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Newcastle United have achieved everything owner Mike Ashley wanted them to do once more, so why is Steve Bruce not certain to remain as manager next season?

For a second year running, Bruce kept the team in the Premier League with a degree of ease that makes the constant criticism and stress on Tyneside feel misplaced.

That criticism, though, is not subsiding and has been there since he arrived in July 2019. 

Even after a run of two defeats in 10 games, which climaxed with a hugely impressive 4-2 win at Champions League-chasing Leicester City last week, social media remains full of resentment towards Bruce.

Almost every fanzine and podcaster constantly looks for reasons to be offended by his continued presence at St James’ Park, each one seemingly trying harder than the next to be angered.

Whether this is a true reflection of the public mood has been impossible to ascertain. The return of around 10,000 fans to St James’ Park for the final home game against Sheffield United will offer some clues.

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Whether it has been the style of football, results or merely the words that come out of his mouth, Bruce has been persistently attacked and derided for the past two years. It has come in the local media, as well as supporter-led alternatives.

When the team plays badly, it is entirely the manager’s fault. When the team plays well, it is entirely down to the players.

A series of meetings are planned for the next few weeks, which will include a conversation between Ashley and Bruce which will go a long way to deciding whether the Magpies are going to be looking for a new head coach.

Telegraph Sport takes a look at the reasons why Bruce should stay but also the argument for him to go:

Reasons for him to stay

When you have done everything the person who employs you has asked you to do, why would any manager feel they have failed? It is a rhetorical question - Bruce has not failed. 

It is debatable whether anyone could have done any better. To argue they would have done conveniently ignores the limitations of the players and the problems suffered with injuries and a massive Covid outbreak before Christmas.

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The team has spent only a handful of days in the bottom three since he took over, only occasionally flirting with the threat of relegation.

The winter slump was a huge concern and there were justifiable grounds to sack Bruce in March with just two wins in 22 in all competitions. However, the turnaround since then has been nothing short of remarkable. The win over Leicester, in particular, was as well as Newcastle have played since they returned to the Premier League four years ago.

Newcastle have a bottom-half-of-the-table squad. It is probably a bottom-eight squad given the midfield and centre of defence is almost identical to the one that was promoted from the Championship in 2016 and which has battled to avoid the drop for four successive years.

Bruce wanted a new centre-back and a central-midfield player last summer but was denied the funds. Only since Joe Willock arrived at the end of January, on loan from Arsenal, did he get an upgrade. One of his summer signings, Ryan Fraser, has been injured for almost the entire season while another free-transfer arrival, Jeff Hendrick, has underwhelmed to say the least

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The club’s record signing, Joelinton, remains a monumental waste of money, a £40 million forward who, despite some small improvements, has still scored only five league goals in two seasons.

Joelinton is tackled by West Ham's Craig Dawson
Joelinton continues to struggle in front of goal CREDIT: REUTERS

And when you take Allan Saint Maximin (only 16 starts in the league because of injuries and Covid) and Callum Wilson - who Bruce pushed to sign and got his way - (23 starts) out of the team, Newcastle struggle. They are the two best players. Without them, the forward line is Championship standard. 

So Bruce has done what he can. It was not the top-10 finish he said he was targeting, but it was another solid campaign in the end.

There is nothing to celebrate, but when you consider Newcastle’s average league finish under Ashley is 13th - which includes just two top-10 finishes and two relegations - he can hold his head high. If he wants to carry on, he has earned the right to do so.

Premier League latest standings 2020/21 (bottom seven)

 

Reasons for him to go

It is not certain he wants to carry on. Far from it. Bruce could well leave. Much will depend on what sort of transfer budget he is offered to improve a squad that lacks the quality in key areas to compete in the top 10.

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Bruce has been beaten up; badly hurt by the treatment he has received. Supporters will say that is entirely his own fault and will have no sympathy. 

With that sort of attitude, what reason does Bruce have to continue? There are people around him who are urging for him to leave because, they feel, he does not deserve what he has been subjected to.

He will get another job elsewhere, whether it is in the Championship or the Premier League. His stock, if anything, has risen nationally.

That sentence will annoy Newcastle supporters, but it is true. When you take a step back from the emotion - the years of frustration and under-performance under Ashley, the what-might-have-been if Saudi Arabia had been able to buy the club, the fact Bruce replaced the hugely-popular and immensely-talented Rafa Benitez - he has done a good job in difficult circumstances

But is he the man who is going to improve the team and will he have the chance to do so in terms of recruitment? 

Bruce has never consistently led a team into the top 10 in the Premier League so why should anyone believe he can do it with Newcastle? Is this his ceiling? 

 

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4 minutes ago, deejeck said:

That Luke Edwards article, dear God! I wasn't going to read it, but curiosity got the better of me. It's by far his biggest piece of Bruce propaganda to date. 

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Newcastle United have achieved everything owner Mike Ashley wanted them to do once more, so why is Steve Bruce not certain to remain as manager next season?

For a second year running, Bruce kept the team in the Premier League with a degree of ease that makes the constant criticism and stress on Tyneside feel misplaced.

That criticism, though, is not subsiding and has been there since he arrived in July 2019. 

Even after a run of two defeats in 10 games, which climaxed with a hugely impressive 4-2 win at Champions League-chasing Leicester City last week, social media remains full of resentment towards Bruce.

Almost every fanzine and podcaster constantly looks for reasons to be offended by his continued presence at St James’ Park, each one seemingly trying harder than the next to be angered.

Whether this is a true reflection of the public mood has been impossible to ascertain. The return of around 10,000 fans to St James’ Park for the final home game against Sheffield United will offer some clues.

Advertisement
 

Whether it has been the style of football, results or merely the words that come out of his mouth, Bruce has been persistently attacked and derided for the past two years. It has come in the local media, as well as supporter-led alternatives.

When the team plays badly, it is entirely the manager’s fault. When the team plays well, it is entirely down to the players.

A series of meetings are planned for the next few weeks, which will include a conversation between Ashley and Bruce which will go a long way to deciding whether the Magpies are going to be looking for a new head coach.

Telegraph Sport takes a look at the reasons why Bruce should stay but also the argument for him to go:

Reasons for him to stay

When you have done everything the person who employs you has asked you to do, why would any manager feel they have failed? It is a rhetorical question - Bruce has not failed. 

It is debatable whether anyone could have done any better. To argue they would have done conveniently ignores the limitations of the players and the problems suffered with injuries and a massive Covid outbreak before Christmas.

Advertisement
 

The team has spent only a handful of days in the bottom three since he took over, only occasionally flirting with the threat of relegation.

The winter slump was a huge concern and there were justifiable grounds to sack Bruce in March with just two wins in 22 in all competitions. However, the turnaround since then has been nothing short of remarkable. The win over Leicester, in particular, was as well as Newcastle have played since they returned to the Premier League four years ago.

Newcastle have a bottom-half-of-the-table squad. It is probably a bottom-eight squad given the midfield and centre of defence is almost identical to the one that was promoted from the Championship in 2016 and which has battled to avoid the drop for four successive years.

Bruce wanted a new centre-back and a central-midfield player last summer but was denied the funds. Only since Joe Willock arrived at the end of January, on loan from Arsenal, did he get an upgrade. One of his summer signings, Ryan Fraser, has been injured for almost the entire season while another free-transfer arrival, Jeff Hendrick, has underwhelmed to say the least

Advertisement
 

The club’s record signing, Joelinton, remains a monumental waste of money, a £40 million forward who, despite some small improvements, has still scored only five league goals in two seasons.

Joelinton is tackled by West Ham's Craig Dawson

Joelinton continues to struggle in front of goal CREDIT: REUTERS

And when you take Allan Saint Maximin (only 16 starts in the league because of injuries and Covid) and Callum Wilson - who Bruce pushed to sign and got his way - (23 starts) out of the team, Newcastle struggle. They are the two best players. Without them, the forward line is Championship standard. 

So Bruce has done what he can. It was not the top-10 finish he said he was targeting, but it was another solid campaign in the end.

There is nothing to celebrate, but when you consider Newcastle’s average league finish under Ashley is 13th - which includes just two top-10 finishes and two relegations - he can hold his head high. If he wants to carry on, he has earned the right to do so.

Premier League latest standings 2020/21 (bottom seven)

 

Reasons for him to go

It is not certain he wants to carry on. Far from it. Bruce could well leave. Much will depend on what sort of transfer budget he is offered to improve a squad that lacks the quality in key areas to compete in the top 10.

Advertisement
 

Bruce has been beaten up; badly hurt by the treatment he has received. Supporters will say that is entirely his own fault and will have no sympathy. 

With that sort of attitude, what reason does Bruce have to continue? There are people around him who are urging for him to leave because, they feel, he does not deserve what he has been subjected to.

He will get another job elsewhere, whether it is in the Championship or the Premier League. His stock, if anything, has risen nationally.

That sentence will annoy Newcastle supporters, but it is true. When you take a step back from the emotion - the years of frustration and under-performance under Ashley, the what-might-have-been if Saudi Arabia had been able to buy the club, the fact Bruce replaced the hugely-popular and immensely-talented Rafa Benitez - he has done a good job in difficult circumstances

But is he the man who is going to improve the team and will he have the chance to do so in terms of recruitment? 

Bruce has never consistently led a team into the top 10 in the Premier League so why should anyone believe he can do it with Newcastle? Is this his ceiling? 

 

Yeah I got half way through and vomited my way to a dry heave so gave up. Verbal Brucie falacio.

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1 hour ago, Billy Pilgrim said:

Simon Jordan is a chancing spiv gobshite who totally has it in for us because he simply doesn’t understand the basics of supporting a big team in the north. Simon Jordan didn’t go to a school where all his mates supported either one local club or their rivals.

As for Bruce, I’m starting to get the whiff of him having had enough of the job already, and would welcome any resignation, but if he has no intention of resigning the least he can do for all our sakes is stop picking fights with the fans and keep his mouth shut unless it’s to verbally fellate us. 

Jordan is a clever guy (and a total cunt). He knows how to play the game to keep himself relevant enough to be in the b-list limelight, which keeps his ego massaged. 
 

Water off a Duck’s back. 

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15 minutes ago, deejeck said:

That Luke Edwards article, dear God! I wasn't going to read it, but curiosity got the better of me. It's by far his biggest piece of Bruce propaganda to date. 

  Reveal hidden contents

Newcastle United have achieved everything owner Mike Ashley wanted them to do once more, so why is Steve Bruce not certain to remain as manager next season?

For a second year running, Bruce kept the team in the Premier League with a degree of ease that makes the constant criticism and stress on Tyneside feel misplaced.

That criticism, though, is not subsiding and has been there since he arrived in July 2019. 

Even after a run of two defeats in 10 games, which climaxed with a hugely impressive 4-2 win at Champions League-chasing Leicester City last week, social media remains full of resentment towards Bruce.

Almost every fanzine and podcaster constantly looks for reasons to be offended by his continued presence at St James’ Park, each one seemingly trying harder than the next to be angered.

Whether this is a true reflection of the public mood has been impossible to ascertain. The return of around 10,000 fans to St James’ Park for the final home game against Sheffield United will offer some clues.

Advertisement
 

Whether it has been the style of football, results or merely the words that come out of his mouth, Bruce has been persistently attacked and derided for the past two years. It has come in the local media, as well as supporter-led alternatives.

When the team plays badly, it is entirely the manager’s fault. When the team plays well, it is entirely down to the players.

A series of meetings are planned for the next few weeks, which will include a conversation between Ashley and Bruce which will go a long way to deciding whether the Magpies are going to be looking for a new head coach.

Telegraph Sport takes a look at the reasons why Bruce should stay but also the argument for him to go:

Reasons for him to stay

When you have done everything the person who employs you has asked you to do, why would any manager feel they have failed? It is a rhetorical question - Bruce has not failed. 

It is debatable whether anyone could have done any better. To argue they would have done conveniently ignores the limitations of the players and the problems suffered with injuries and a massive Covid outbreak before Christmas.

Advertisement
 

The team has spent only a handful of days in the bottom three since he took over, only occasionally flirting with the threat of relegation.

The winter slump was a huge concern and there were justifiable grounds to sack Bruce in March with just two wins in 22 in all competitions. However, the turnaround since then has been nothing short of remarkable. The win over Leicester, in particular, was as well as Newcastle have played since they returned to the Premier League four years ago.

Newcastle have a bottom-half-of-the-table squad. It is probably a bottom-eight squad given the midfield and centre of defence is almost identical to the one that was promoted from the Championship in 2016 and which has battled to avoid the drop for four successive years.

Bruce wanted a new centre-back and a central-midfield player last summer but was denied the funds. Only since Joe Willock arrived at the end of January, on loan from Arsenal, did he get an upgrade. One of his summer signings, Ryan Fraser, has been injured for almost the entire season while another free-transfer arrival, Jeff Hendrick, has underwhelmed to say the least

Advertisement
 

The club’s record signing, Joelinton, remains a monumental waste of money, a £40 million forward who, despite some small improvements, has still scored only five league goals in two seasons.

Joelinton is tackled by West Ham's Craig Dawson

Joelinton continues to struggle in front of goal CREDIT: REUTERS

And when you take Allan Saint Maximin (only 16 starts in the league because of injuries and Covid) and Callum Wilson - who Bruce pushed to sign and got his way - (23 starts) out of the team, Newcastle struggle. They are the two best players. Without them, the forward line is Championship standard. 

So Bruce has done what he can. It was not the top-10 finish he said he was targeting, but it was another solid campaign in the end.

There is nothing to celebrate, but when you consider Newcastle’s average league finish under Ashley is 13th - which includes just two top-10 finishes and two relegations - he can hold his head high. If he wants to carry on, he has earned the right to do so.

Premier League latest standings 2020/21 (bottom seven)

 

Reasons for him to go

It is not certain he wants to carry on. Far from it. Bruce could well leave. Much will depend on what sort of transfer budget he is offered to improve a squad that lacks the quality in key areas to compete in the top 10.

Advertisement
 

Bruce has been beaten up; badly hurt by the treatment he has received. Supporters will say that is entirely his own fault and will have no sympathy. 

With that sort of attitude, what reason does Bruce have to continue? There are people around him who are urging for him to leave because, they feel, he does not deserve what he has been subjected to.

He will get another job elsewhere, whether it is in the Championship or the Premier League. His stock, if anything, has risen nationally.

That sentence will annoy Newcastle supporters, but it is true. When you take a step back from the emotion - the years of frustration and under-performance under Ashley, the what-might-have-been if Saudi Arabia had been able to buy the club, the fact Bruce replaced the hugely-popular and immensely-talented Rafa Benitez - he has done a good job in difficult circumstances

But is he the man who is going to improve the team and will he have the chance to do so in terms of recruitment? 

Bruce has never consistently led a team into the top 10 in the Premier League so why should anyone believe he can do it with Newcastle? Is this his ceiling? 

 

Why would you bother ? :lol:

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6 hours ago, SweMag said:

Expected to leave at the end of the season according to a first team player. But he also expected him to be sacked back in Mars when he had lost the dressing room.

6 hours ago, Dancing Brave said:

He's got a second job on Mars ?  Might well explain his very ugly alien like face. [emoji38]

 

'Kuato Lives'

goes without saying which character the three Steve's remind me of (*)(*)(*)

 

 

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Bruce has already said the players need a break and Wilson must have been told he has no chance of making the England squad so he's hung his boots up for the season.

The rest of the players will have flip flops on so I can see us getting wopped in these next 3 games, it would also put that little bit more pressure on fat heed and allow him to ramp up his hatred of everything Newcastle.

I can't think of a more fitting end to his time here than 3 defeats 

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Whilst we may get a humping Friday night I cannot see us getting whopped by two relegated clubs. Bruce will demand a good performance in front of fans next week.

 

 

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Funny how he talks about being picked on by journalists, yet if memory recalls it was him who was acting aggressive and intimidating journalists a few months back.

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He's got such a ridiculous victim complex.  Everyone is always out to get poor Steve, and he has to battle through like the trooper he is against it all.  Go fuck yourself you cunt.

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We’re fucking 16th in the league and he wants us to be grateful. :lol:

 

Even in the Ashley era that’d be our joint 3rd worst season in the PL. That’s why there’s no chance of him easing off he’ll be treating the Sheff Utd & Fulham games like Cup Finals. Whether the players are as up for it as he will be is another matter.

 

 

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I couldn’t blame the players for not being up for it either. When they’ve spent 2/3s of a season battling to stay clear of the worst bottom 3 in Premier League history pretty much, which shouldn’t have even been on the radar, it’ll be easy to switch off a bit now.

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It's already obvious that when he does go, by whatever means that may be, he's taking the fans down with him and we'll be perceived as the nastiest bastards going.  As the years progress, history will be rewritten over and over and will increasingly become more pro-Bruce/anti-supporter.  By 2026 we'll have kidnapped his dog on bonfire night despite his team playing the best football we've seen since Keegan was manager.

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He just doesn't fit, he was not welcome when he came (partly for me because the way he treat Sheff Wed, now look at them) his constant backing of "Mike" is infuriating and the way he is using his media chums to have a go at genuine Newcastle fans is nothing short of disgraceful.

IMO he is the worst Newcastle manager ever for me, even worse than Pardew.

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He’s no more or less self serving than Pardew - he’s just so shit at all aspects of his job - especially PR and devoid the emotional intelligence the likes of keegan, Robson and Rafa possessed. How the fuck do you act like that and expect to take players with you? Fat oaf manages to make racism debates about him in the run up which is bad enough on its own.

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Surely, Kinnear was the worst.

But I think I hate Pardew and Bruce the most.

 

Edit, my god I forgot Carver.  To think  I had managed to block that out.

 

 

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