ED209 Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 So is there any actual news? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 6 minutes ago, ED209 said: So is there any actual news? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandy Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 8 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said: Middle East journalist reporting Middle East news shocker. Think you’re reading too much into it. That's the thing though. It was a significant event in the whole saga and he didnt make any announcement of it all. Instead, he referenced the story to enable him to have a dig at a section of NUFC's support. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, Wandy said: That's the thing though. It was a significant event in the whole saga and he didnt make any announcement of it all. Instead, he referenced the story to enable him to have a dig at a section of NUFC's support. Have you been on his Twitter? He’s literally re-tweeted a positive takeover story re: the piracy report and then posted his own thoughts on it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandy Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 4 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said: Have you been on his Twitter? He’s literally re-tweeted a positive takeover story re: the piracy report and then posted his own thoughts on it. Of course, that's why I have commented on it. That's the point though. He didnt "champion" the story in the same manner he did with today's. He could have broke the story in manner that said "this is positve news for NUFC fans'. He didn't though, he retweeted it with a "see, I told you piracy was an important factor" point-scoring vibe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 Fucking hell. His post today doesn’t say it’s a negative, no? Doesn’t even reference the takeover. Yet you’re moaning about it. Yet he’s directly re-tweeting positive news and that isn’t good enough The bloke can’t win. He’ll get the same grief some on here will get when/if this goes through. Completing missing that people are basing their views on the news in front of them, rather than what they want to happen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Fantail Breeze said: 1. That post has nothing to do with our takeover. 2. I’m not sure where you think he’s enjoying in his post. His post is practically the same as the other tweet above. Is Martyn Ziegler the enemy now too? Posts like this are as bad as (and very similar to) ‘Magedia’ on RTG. Ziegler is a long time friend of Qatar and was anti takeover from the outset. Funnily enough he was very happy to turn a blind eye to Qatar’s human rights issues when they we’re after his beloved Leeds ‘The biggest sleeping giant in English football’. Compare the below article with his views on our takeover, and you’ll find another journalist with an anti Saudi agenda. There’s agendas everywhere when it comes to this takeover and Middle East / PL politics. https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/andrea-radrizzani-new-qatar-investor-can-get-leeds-up-to-level-of-man-city-bfd0gcqlf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 Another no news day passes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweMag Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 Again, Ben Jacobs is full of shit. Stop reading his tweets. He was all over the BZG takeover in 2019 and said a verbal agreement of £350m was in place and also proof of funds, deal could be completed very soon. He also said the BZG wanted Benitez to stay as manager but that they also had their eyes on Wenger and Mourinho... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandy Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 6 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said: Fucking hell. His post today doesn’t say it’s a negative, no? Doesn’t even reference the takeover. Yet you’re moaning about it. Yet he’s directly re-tweeting positive news and that isn’t good enough The bloke can’t win. He’ll get the same grief some on here will get when/if this goes through. Completing missing that people are basing their views on the news in front of them, rather than what they want to happen. His "OFFICIAL" triumphalist post today was simply about how it was a victory for BEin in the face of a Saudi competitor who had more money. It was a glaring little dig at the Saudis. If you don't see it that way then that's up to you. Yesterday was a major piece of good news for NUFC fans, and it felt really significant. That's not how Jacobs reported on it though. It came across as a quite grudging acknowledgement of a piece of positivity for NUFC fans. Again, if you don't see it that way then that's up to you. And yeah, now that he has presented himself as "Mr Balanced", I am watching him like a hawk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 25 minutes ago, SweMag said: Again, Ben Jacobs is full of shit. Stop reading his tweets. He was all over the BZG takeover in 2019 and said a verbal agreement of £350m was in place and also proof of funds, deal could be completed very soon. He also said the BZG wanted Benitez to stay as manager but that they also had their eyes on Wenger and Mourinho... He also told a few untruths in a chronicle podcast during that takeover bid, which meant that it was pulled within 24 hours. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 29 minutes ago, Wandy said: His "OFFICIAL" triumphalist post today was simply about how it was a victory for BEin in the face of a Saudi competitor who had more money. It was a glaring little dig at the Saudis. If you don't see it that way then that's up to you. Yesterday was a major piece of good news for NUFC fans, and it felt really significant. That's not how Jacobs reported on it though. It came across as a quite grudging acknowledgement of a piece of positivity for NUFC fans. Again, if you don't see it that way then that's up to you. And yeah, now that he has presented himself as "Mr Balanced", I am watching him like a hawk. Yesterday was far from “a major piece of good news” like. It was positive but fairly unremarkable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Jinx Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 It’s quite amusing how yesterday although there was no actual concrete news, the mood was generally quite positive.. 24 hours later, with no concrete news, the mood has flipped to one of negativity once again. We have to be the most schizophrenic fanbase going when it comes to football clubs 🙂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 10 minutes ago, Dr Jinx said: It’s quite amusing how yesterday although there was no actual concrete news, the mood was generally quite positive.. 24 hours later, with no concrete news, the mood has flipped to one of negativity once again. We have to be the most schizophrenic fanbase going when it comes to football clubs 🙂 That’s only because people are desperate for news and trying to link any sort of news they can to the takeover. Whereas pretty much all of it is immaterial until the arbitration decision is made. The UEFA tv rights and a report from January on piracy isn’t going to have any impact on the decision in a months time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandy Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 18 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said: Yesterday was far from “a major piece of good news” like. It was positive but fairly unremarkable. The PL not seeing Saudi as a piracy threat anymore is unremarkable? I'd strongly disagee with that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 7 minutes ago, Wandy said: The PL not seeing Saudi as a piracy threat anymore is unremarkable? I'd strongly disagee with that. Unremarkable in the sense that it’s going to have no impact on the arbitration, which is the only path for the takeover to be completed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandy Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 Just now, Fantail Breeze said: Unremarkable in the sense that it’s going to have no impact on the arbitration, which is the only path for the takeover to be completed. You dont know that for sure. For all we know it might yet play a part in ensuring arbitration might not happen at all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 Just now, Wandy said: You dont know that for sure. For all we know it might yet play a part in ensuring arbitration might not happen at all. It’s the PL’s own report from January. Why would they decide at the 11th hour that they forgot the report they worked on in January is now relevant to dropping a multi-million pound legal fight? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandy Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 1 minute ago, Fantail Breeze said: It’s the PL’s own report from January. Why would they decide at the 11th hour that they forgot the report they worked on in January is now relevant to dropping a multi-million pound legal fight? Because they might be waiting to see if the CAT goes ahead. If it does, then they might throw the towel in before arbitration, do a deal with Ashley, and use the fact that Saudi is off the naughty list as their reasoning for passing it to BEin and the dirty six. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 52 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said: Yesterday was far from “a major piece of good news” like. It was positive but fairly unremarkable. Another intriguing take on things. Wandy has been completely balanced in his view of Jacobs. It’s pretty plain to see for all that he is biased towards Qatar/ BEIN/ PL if you are able to read between the lines. I’m not surprised people have rumbled Jacobs’ leanings now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
christ Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, SweMag said: Again, Ben Jacobs is full of shit. Stop reading his tweets. He was all over the BZG takeover in 2019 and said a verbal agreement of £350m was in place and also proof of funds, deal could be completed very soon. He also said the BZG wanted Benitez to stay as manager but that they also had their eyes on Wenger and Mourinho... How anyone can look at his track record - not just in our takeover(s) - and think he’s anything other than a total gobshite I do not know. Dodgy as fuck. Edited June 10, 2021 by christ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 20 minutes ago, Wandy said: Because they might be waiting to see if the CAT goes ahead. If it does, then they might throw the towel in before arbitration, do a deal with Ashley, and use the fact that Saudi is off the naughty list as their reasoning for passing it to BEin and the dirty six. CAT will not be anywhere near close to going ahead before arbitration starts. Not even convinced the jurisdictional argument would have a result by then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattoon Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 15 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said: CAT will not be anywhere near close to going ahead before arbitration starts. Not even convinced the jurisdictional argument would have a result by then. You're literally the epitome of incessant aren't you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wandy Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 14 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said: CAT will not be anywhere near close to going ahead before arbitration starts. Not even convinced the jurisdictional argument would have a result by then. It doesnt have to have gone ahead or be close to the date of going ahead. All it might take is for the PL to know it is definitely going ahead for them to quickly do a deal. Current estimates suggest that we will know the jurisdiction result by the end of the month....which is just before arbitration is due to start. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
manorpark Posted June 10, 2021 Share Posted June 10, 2021 1 hour ago, Wandy said: Because they might be waiting to see if the CAT goes ahead. If it does, then they might throw the towel in before arbitration, do a deal with Ashley. They can then use the fact that Saudi is off the naughty list as their reasoning for passing it to BEin and the dirty six. That is the most likely route to the approval of the Takeover. There are many routes, but that is the most likely. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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