ElDiablo Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 14 minutes ago, 54 said: So what we saying for the first game against Croatia? Pickford Walker Stones Maguire Shaw Henderson Mount Rice Sancho Foden Kane Madness to start Henderson after he's been out so long imo. Lucky to be even in the squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 Reckon I'd go: Rice JWP Greenwood Foden Rashford Kane Probably be the only one like. Don't fancy Henderson or Phillips at CM. Think Greenwood's gonna be class and the most likely goalscorer after Kane; also he's better suited to the right unlike Sterling. Rashford to start cos he's a legend, not that the Razzler isn't. Foden pips Mount cos he's better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 Maybe Sancho instead of Greenwood, having just looked at his stats. The options are simply peng. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 We have a strong squad like, looking forward to this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 13 minutes ago, Yorkie said: Maybe Sancho instead of Greenwood, having just looked at his stats. The options are simply peng. Did...did you just use the term Peng on un-ironically? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 It was an attempt at humour I guess. Could've said pure taste but I think we're done with that now. The options are very good. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 Hopefully that the 1st and last time I see peng used on this forum, ironic or not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 (edited) This is why I dont rate Southgate. The 4 right backs is insane, but if you absolutely must have 4 for versatility, why do you not put the best performing and best defender out of the lot of them in there with Wan BIssaka? Talk about playing one of them right hand side of a 3, Reece James is not your man. Neither is Walker really. If you want two wing playing RBs, fine, but 4 is insane. I know he has played Walker right of a back 3 but WB is clearly the better defender. Trippier, TAA, Reece James and Walker just arent anywhere near different enough to justify all 4 of them. 3 and Wan Bissaka would still be insane but it'd make more sense at least. Edited May 25, 2021 by Super Duper Branko Strupar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 (edited) Also absolutely no need for Lingard to be going ahead of Maddison. Fair play he's done well at West Ham but there are 6/7 players in that provisional squad that all get in his position ahead of him. Edited May 25, 2021 by Super Duper Branko Strupar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 Isn’t Maddison that out of form he’s classed as the weak link in the Leicester team? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 (edited) No doubt he's been slow to get back after injury and form at the end hasnt been paticularly good, but he gives you a different option to Lingard, who will be behind Foden, Grealish, Rashford, Sako, Sancho & Sterling. Probably Greenwood. That's 7 players who are likely to play either side of the man up top. Lingard makes 8. Maddison can at least play a bit further behind and use his technique to create something from deeper. In that squad there's only really Mount and Ward Prowse to do that as it stands. If you think Rice, Henderson, Bellingham and Phillips are likely to be playing in front of the defence. Edited May 25, 2021 by Super Duper Branko Strupar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 (edited) Christ Ive just seen Aaron fucking Ramsdale in there Weren't we meant to be spoilt for choice for top class keepers? Edited May 25, 2021 by Super Duper Branko Strupar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 Lingard > Maddison for me at the moment Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 Got a feeling Scotland might squeak through. They’ll lose at Wembley but think they’re capable of beating Czech Republic and drawing with Croatia particularly with home advantage both times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 Thought Dunk would be higher up the pecking order than Ben White Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 31 minutes ago, Super Duper Branko Strupar said: No doubt he's been slow to get back after injury and form at the end hasnt been paticularly good, but he gives you a different option to Lingard, who will be behind Foden, Grealish, Rashford, Sako, Sancho & Sterling. Probably Greenwood. That's 7 players who are likely to play either side of the man up top. Lingard makes 8. Maddison can at least play a bit further behind and use his technique to create something from deeper. In that squad there's only really Mount and Ward Prowse to do that as it stands. If you think Rice, Henderson, Bellingham and Phillips are likely to be playing in front of the defence. I've just seen far too many NT tournies where we take out of form or coming back from injury players expecting it to suddenly change and for them to produce fuck all. Even more so when the player isn't too tier, thry have even further to come back from. Take the fittest and in form, forget the names and reputations and if you are neither a name or in form then you're watching it on the tele like everyone else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 (edited) That's fair about form. I suppose I just don't see the point in having far too many players for a certain position form or not, cos they wont all play. And why leave yourself potentially under represented in another position to take far to many form players for 1 or 2? Just doesnt really seem all that thoughtful imo. Southgate all over. Edited May 25, 2021 by Super Duper Branko Strupar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dokko Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, Super Duper Branko Strupar said: That's fair about form. I suppose I just don't see the point in having far too many players for a certain position form or not, cos they wont all play. And why leave yourself potentially under represented in another position to take far to many form players for 1 or 2? Just doesnt really seem all that thoughtful imo. Southgate all over. Might be a case say he wants 4 central mids, but all are in form and fit. No need to really cast his eyes over that. He's looking a bit further forward and he's got 2 squad positions to fill but 5 players who could do the job. 2 are coming back from injury, 1 is suspect quality and the other 2 out of form. You'd take them all in the provisional squad and cut the 3 which aren't showing enough. The 4 central mids chose themselves, but throughout the squad looked unbalanced. Unless i;ve got this wrong and there isn't a cut coming. Usually there is but Covid may have changed that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Duper Branko Strupar Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 Yeah there'll be a cut. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HTT II Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 2 hours ago, Super Duper Branko Strupar said: Also absolutely no need for Lingard to be going ahead of Maddison. Fair play he's done well at West Ham but there are 6/7 players in that provisional squad that all get in his position ahead of him. Agreed! If he makes it on a handful of half decent performances, then surely Willock falls into that category. And no Bamford is fucking strange. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 Henderson TAA Stones Maguire Shaw Rice Bellingham Sancho Mount Foden Kane Trent could just as easily be any of the other right backs, but gets my vote because we lack set piece specialists without him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 What sort of player is Bellingham, then? Literally don't think I've seen him once besides him coming off the bench for England against San Marino. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaqen Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 (edited) 37 minutes ago, Yorkie said: What sort of player is Bellingham, then? Literally don't think I've seen him once besides him coming off the bench for England against San Marino. Very box to box from what I've seen at Dortmund. Seems the perfect partner for a player like Rice. Have a feeling Southgate doesn't trust the defence enough in a back 4 to not play two defensive mids though unfortunately. Edited May 25, 2021 by Jaqen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Maximin Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 We’ll lose a right-back but will almost certainly go with three in the 26 in case Southgate wants to play wing-backs (as he likes Walker in a back three). When you look at the attacking options though, it seems crazy he’s gone into matches with seven defenders/DMs. Also no idea how Bamford isn’t in there. Joint fourth top scorer in the league and more goals than any English player after Kane. Nothing against the other strikers there, but think he adds something a bit different also. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 Lingard has performed for Southgate and England at a big tournament in the past, that'll be a huge factor in the decision, and I think that's fair enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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