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[BergenMagpie]

1 hour ago, OpenC said:

I don't know how we managed before we had official mail and parcel delivery, and luxury shopping, partners mind

 

 

 

Just the dumbest part of FFP  Could just get 500 different Saudi Companies to give us 999,999 quid a year to be our official *insert random commodity* sponsor.

 

Worrying that we dont have a mattress partnership yet like Man Utd

[The Prophet]

 

[jack j]

Signing Jon Rahm for 150 million more than they bought us for

[huss9]

off topic, but what the fuck have fenwicks done to their fabled xmas windows of late

shite last year and shite again this year.

[TheBrownBottle]

On 06/12/2023 at 06:40, BergenMagpie said:

Just the dumbest part of FFP  Could just get 500 different Saudi Companies to give us 999,999 quid a year to be our official *insert random commodity* sponsor.

 

Worrying that we dont have a mattress partnership yet like Man Utd

My favourite Man Utd ‘partnership’ is their official tractor partner:

 

https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/manchester-united-release-a-co-branded-tractor#

[McDog]

2 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said:

My favourite Man Utd ‘partnership’ is their official tractor partner:

 

https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/manchester-united-release-a-co-branded-tractor#

 

 

Does one see lots of tractors driving about in Manchester? I could ask my work mates.

[OCOCOL]

6 hours ago, huss9 said:

off topic, but what the fuck have fenwicks done to their fabled xmas windows of late

shite last year and shite again this year.

Bring back the aliens in the NTL Newcastle shirts 

[Keegans Export]

Some CL income estimates there. Suggests a minimum for us of about £27m.

 

I'm not sure how the gate receipts are calculated but even 50,000 paying £60 each is another £3m per home game. 

 

If those numbers are right we're not far off £40m in total.

[healthyaddiction]

It's ridiculous that Man Utd, who actually picked up less points than us, got nearly double what we did.

[r0cafella]

20 minutes ago, healthyaddiction said:

It's ridiculous that Man Utd, who actually picked up less points than us, got nearly double what we did.

Super league or no super league, those clubs for more money exactly as they wanted to. 

[PauloGeordio]

“Thank you to every one of you for your incredible support tonight. 

‘The team gave it their all and took us on an incredible journey these last few months. We deserved more, but this is football. 

‘We will pick ourselves up and focus on Saturday. We still have a long season ahead of us. 

‘As I’ve said before, we are building something special here and we will continue to grow. The future is bright”

 

— Mehrdad Ghodoussi (@ghodoussi) December 13, 2023

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[Stifler]

4 hours ago, r0cafella said:

Super league or no super league, those clubs for more money exactly as they wanted to. 

Aye.

The super league is coming though, I’m not convinced it will be a European one over a closed Premier League though. The European clubs will want a European style one, but I think the English clubs would be more than happy with a closed Premier League, every club owned either by a state, or mega rich billionaires.

 

Once it happens though, whichever one was left out will fall and rise to its closed shop newrunner.

Liverpool, and Arsenal fans are absolutely fucking creaming about the thought of it. You know Everton will be happy to be the also ran hoping it happens and get an invite.

[FloydianMag]

2 minutes ago, Stifler said:

Aye.

The super league is coming though, I’m not convinced it will be a European one over a closed Premier League though. The European clubs will want a European style one, but I think the English clubs would be more than happy with a closed Premier League, every club owned either by a state, or mega rich billionaires.

 

Once it happens though, whichever one was left out will fall and rise to its closed shop newrunner.

Liverpool, and Arsenal fans are absolutely fucking creaming about the thought of it. You know Everton will be happy to be the also ran hoping it happens and get an invite.

There’s a CJEU judgement due on a potential ESL on 21/12/23 re governance etc, one to watch out for.

[KetsbaiaIsBald]

5 hours ago, healthyaddiction said:

It's ridiculous that Man Utd, who actually picked up less points than us, got nearly double what we did.

 

Same for Sevilla and they got 2 points.  So we did better.  Get less money.  Mental.

[Yorkie]

Can someone remind me what 'market pool' is?

[Kilcline]

2 hours ago, Yorkie said:

Can someone remind me what 'market pool' is?

The TV money, which is supposedly split between how you performed in your domestic league last year and how far you go in the Champions League in the current season. Progress, more games on TV, more coin etc..

 

Although why there's then another bit for "performance" I don't know.

 

 

Edited December 14, 2023 by Kilcline
Blind, didn't see the detail on the tweet

[kocunar]

Every country in Europe has a TV deal for UCL TV rights, percentage of that deal goes to the clubs of that country for that year.

 

So for example (I will make up a number because I don't feel like googling the exact number right now) let's say that England has around 150m£, 4 English clubs will split that 150m. How that money is split depends on which position you were in the table last year (we were 4th so as a base we get the least) and it also depends on how far you progress in the competition.

 

 

Edited December 14, 2023 by kocunar

[FloydianMag]

Nick De Marco KC has tweeted about the Court rulings on an attempt to cap agents fees to which the Court found in the agents favour. I tweeted him and said FFP and FMV should go the same way as they are anti competitive practises and wouldn’t be allowed in any other business sector.

 

He responded by liking the tweet, I’m probably reading to much into it or he agrees.

 

https://x.com/floydianmag/status/1735378703415198158?s=61&t=Yt8DTJJ-7Jh_ndgpdGSFKQ

[NE27]

1 hour ago, FloydianMag said:

I’m probably reading to much into it or he agrees.

 

Unless it was through the medium of bakery products, I wouldn't read too much into it.

 

 

[Jagten]

If anyone is interested, we hired a "head of data" to build out our non-existent analytics department who has no training in statistics. No comment. 

[NEEJ]

3 minutes ago, Jagten said:

If anyone is interested, we hired a "head of data" to build out our non-existent analytics department who has no training in statistics. No comment. 

A quick Google suggests he has an MRes in data science from Loughborough, like. 

[Jagten]

10 minutes ago, NEEJ said:

A quick Google suggests he has an MRes in data science from Loughborough, like. 

Not my interpretation of what that means, given Loughborough does not offer that course (?). Given undergrad, much more likely to be have involved some linear regression in excel. My point in highlighting this is, in comparison to e.g. Liverpool and Man City (and those in US analytics), I think we're looking at something very different. 

 

For example, Liverpool's director of research did his PhD in physics at Harvard, worked at CERN, spent 4 years applying his research to tracking in sports, before working at Liverpool. Clearly elite talent who could work at most hedge funds, which is what we should have got IMO 

 

 

Edited December 14, 2023 by Jagten

[NEEJ]

4 minutes ago, Jagten said:

Not my interpretation of what that means, given Loughborough does not offer that course (?). Given undergrad, much more likely to be have involved some linear regression in excel. My point in highlighting this is, in comparison to e.g. Liverpool and Man City (and those in US analytics), I think we're looking at something very different. 

 

 

 

Was probably this and the article incorrectly went with MRes instead of MSc: https://www.lboro.ac.uk/study/postgraduate/masters-degrees/a-z/data-science/#:~:text=This unique master's offers an,data analytics%2C management and stewardship.

 

Admittedly it's not a Havard PhD or work experience at CERN, but it would've been a bit more than linear regression in Excel, like.

[The Prophet]

Wasn't he employed by Chelsea for a fair chunk of time?

[Jagten]

2 minutes ago, NEEJ said:

Was probably this and the article incorrectly went with MRes instead of MSc: https://www.lboro.ac.uk/study/postgraduate/masters-degrees/a-z/data-science/#:~:text=This unique master's offers an,data analytics%2C management and stewardship.

 

Admittedly it's not a Havard PhD or work experience at CERN, but it would've been a bit more than linear regression in Excel, like.

I reckon it was an MRes with "data science" components in the dissertation, but who knows. He may be excellent, but as someone who does this for a living, it's not a CV I would have looked at, and a hire on paper that surprised me.