FloydianMag Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 23 minutes ago, beardsleymagic said: While every article in the press like this is a very small step forward, I do believe it's going to take a club to challenge ffp before anything will be done. The premier league won't want to upset the "big" clubs unless their hands are tied. In the article NFFC have engaged Nick De Marco so who knows, clearly more and more clubs are unhappy with FFP certainly in it’s current form. Why not allow clubs, if there owners can afford to, spend the same amounts the cartel clubs spend? Seems a bit fairer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 2 minutes ago, FloydianMag said: In the article NFFC have engaged Nick De Marco so who knows, clearly more and more clubs are unhappy with FFP certainly in its current form. Why not allow clubs, if there owners can afford to, spend the same amounts the cartel clubs spend? Seems a bit fairer. I can assure your most clubs are very happy with FFP. only those with rich owners who have ambition to challenge don’t like it. The rest love the status quo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 I think we already know what the PL’s legal defence vs Forest will be. That it isn’t a restriction of trade - Forest are free to spend as much money as they want. They just can’t be a member of the PL while doing it - they can leave and earn what they want if they wish. They aren’t forced to be the in PL. I don’t think FFP’s legal abolition via commercial law is as shut and closed as many may think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 2 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: I think we already know what the PL’s legal defence vs Forest will be. That it isn’t a restriction of trade - Forest are free to spend as much money as they want. They just can’t be a member of the PL while doing it - they can leave and earn what they want if they wish. They aren’t forced to be the in PL. I don’t think FFP’s legal abolition via commercial law is as shut and closed as many may think. That isn’t a defence by the PL, it’s an ultimatum, as I’ve said many times the PL are not above or exempt from competition law. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 37 minutes ago, FloydianMag said: That isn’t a defence by the PL, it’s an ultimatum, as I’ve said many times the PL are not above or exempt from competition law. Never said that they were - but this was the finding against UEFA too. They can’t prevent clubs leaving, and membership is ultimately voluntary. No-one forces a club to be in the PL. I don’t think this is quite as open-and-shut as you’re assuming. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 27 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: Never said that they were - but this was the finding against UEFA too. They can’t prevent clubs leaving, and membership is ultimately voluntary. No-one forces a club to be in the PL. I don’t think this is quite as open-and-shut as you’re assuming. FIFA, UEFA and the PL wanted to impose caps on agents fees, rulings not just in English Courts but also German Courts ruled that governing bodies should not involve themselves in commercial activities, the agents winning there case as it was seen as a breach of competition law. FFP and FMV although a different case are rules that interfere with a clubs commercial activities the principal being that governing bodies imposing financial restrictions on clubs is doing just that. I do think that such a case is a lot clearer than you think it is. I’ll post this tweet again where it’s put it clearer terms by NDM. I know a few don’t like him however he is far more knowledgeable in this area than any of us on this forum. https://x.com/nickdemarco_/status/1735644167521341793?s=61&t=Yt8DTJJ-7Jh_ndgpdGSFKQ https://x.com/footballforum01/status/1741087495914135774?s=61&t=Yt8DTJJ-7Jh_ndgpdGSFKQ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Just now, FloydianMag said: FIFA, UEFA and the PL wanted to impose caps on agents fees, rulings not just in English Courts but also German Courts ruled that governing bodies should not involve themselves in commercial activities, the agents winning there case as it was seen as a breach of competition law. FFP and FMV although a different case are rules that interfere with a clubs commercial activities the principal being that governing bodies imposing financial restrictions on clubs is doing just that. I do think that such a case is a lot clearer than you think it is. I’ll post this tweet again where it’s put it clearer terms by NDM. I know a few don’t like him however he is far more knowledgeable in this area than any of us on this forum. https://x.com/nickdemarco_/status/1735644167521341793?s=61&t=Yt8DTJJ-7Jh_ndgpdGSFKQ https://x.com/footballforum01/status/1741087495914135774?s=61&t=Yt8DTJJ-7Jh_ndgpdGSFKQ I agree NDM is more knowledgeable than any of us. But it doesn’t mean he’s more knowledgeable than the PL’s legal team. We’ll have to wait and see mate, I think NDM has won himself more work via his visibility as well as his knowledge. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 (edited) 8 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: I agree NDM is more knowledgeable than any of us. But it doesn’t mean he’s more knowledgeable than the PL’s legal team. We’ll have to wait and see mate, I think NDM has won himself more work via his visibility as well as his knowledge. Why not, legal practise is also a business albeit a lucrative business and he’s just given the PL’s legal team a bloody nose in the Football agents case. Edited January 11 by FloydianMag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Financial results filed https://x.com/nufc/status/1745460754839695850?s=46&t=RaLdCRuzyWBbm603Y3eUgg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 As slowly depressing as it all feels that increase in revenue it's good and that's before sela and addidas, we're making more money we just need to buy and sell cleverly which will be sad but for the first time i am sure we will replace players with other good ones Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegans Export Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 (edited) Revenue is what matters and we'll have around £30m from CL this season, plus Sela which is £20m or so? Edit - Sela is £25m and Adidas is £30m+ Edited January 11 by Keegans Export Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnonel Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Assuming our accountants arent injured then Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 8 minutes ago, Keegans Export said: Darren Eales said in the article the club won’t legally challenge FFP?♂️ It’s going to take years to challenge the cartel clubs!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Geogaddi Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 It's clear that we are going to have to sell one of Bruno , Isak or Botman at some point very soon to help with FFP, very likely to be Bruno I would have thought . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BeloEmre Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 5 minutes ago, Geogaddi said: It's clear that we are going to have to sell one of Bruno , Isak or Botman at some point very soon to help with FFP, very likely to be Bruno I would have thought . Selling Wilson and Almiron for £30-40m together would make a lot of room for transfers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiekris Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Hate to be negative but I can't see the point in selling the likes of Bruno or Isak if Solanke is the level of player we are looking to obtain. Feels like recruitment wise has been a big anticlimax since qualifying for the Champions League thought we really would have kicked on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FloydianMag Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Stadium naming rights would bring in money…….but of course there’s those that think that would be a step to far!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
54 Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 1 minute ago, geordiekris said: Hate to be negative but I can't see the point in selling the likes of Bruno or Isak if Solanke is the level of player we are looking to obtain. Feels like recruitment wise has been a big anticlimax since qualifying for the Champions League thought we really would have kicked on. I do love how invested we are a fanbase like. One article, from a notoriously shit sauce, which has also been knocked back by others, have made people start worrying needlessly, its impressive loyalty tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 I'm pretty sure Solanke is lazy journalism. Doesn't really make sense to sell Wilson for £20M or so and get Solanke in for £50M. We have received incredible value for money from Europe - I'm baffled why all these Prem players keep getting linked when there is clearly greater value abroad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordiekris Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 2 minutes ago, 54 said: I do love how invested we are a fanbase like. One article, from a notoriously shit sauce, which has also been knocked back by others, have made people start worrying needlessly, its impressive loyalty tbh It was Eales interview on the club site I was referring to Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrone Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 The eales interview isn't half as sensational as the headlines make it seem like ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack j Posted January 11 Share Posted January 11 Just now, geordiekris said: It was Eales interview on the club site I was referring to Did he mention us going for solanke like? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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