christ Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 On 14/03/2023 at 19:59, TheBrownBottle said: Plenty of negative coverage of KSA involvement with F1 in the UK - F1 didn’t used to be particularly popular in the US, not sure if it has more visibility these days? If it is still a minor sport that would have an impact of visibility https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2023/mar/16/brother-of-man-executed-by-saudi-arabia-says-f1-legitimises-heinous-crimes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 9 hours ago, christ said: https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2023/mar/16/brother-of-man-executed-by-saudi-arabia-says-f1-legitimises-heinous-crimes Yes, in a UK newspaper. I’m not at all arguing that F1’s KSA ties do not get flagged constantly - the incessant ‘this is only ever about Newcastle’ brigade are tiresome with that shite. Of course Amnesty etc will flag it up. I was referring to the US - NASCAR, not F1, is where the vast majority of motorsports fans get their kicks. In terms of F1, more criticism on the BBC today: https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/64979439 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
christ Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 5 minutes ago, TheBrownBottle said: Yes, in a UK newspaper. I’m not at all arguing that F1’s KSA ties do not get flagged constantly - the incessant ‘this is only ever about Newcastle’ brigade are tiresome with that shite. Of course Amnesty etc will flag it up. I was referring to the US - NASCAR, not F1, is where the vast majority of motorsports fans get their kicks. In terms of F1, more criticism on the BBC today: https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/64979439 I was agreeing with you, I was just too lazy to provide any context. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted March 16, 2023 Share Posted March 16, 2023 Just now, christ said: I was agreeing with you, I was just too lazy to provide any context. Don’t worry, I argue with the ones who agree with me the most ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 https://nairametrics.com/2023/03/17/777-partners-mulls-potential-investment-in-newcastle-united-fc/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 I’m regards to UEFA possibly changing the ownership rules. I wonder what the wider context will be. Everyone is pointing at Qatar being able to buy Man Utd with out having that Qatari banker being the frontman. However it could also help Radcliffe, as he owns Nice and it’s not beyond possibility that they are in the same European competitions as Man Utd in future. Of course people will be looking at us and thinking it may mean our sister clubs might become bigger than the likes Dijion who are rumoured. Myself, I wonder if this will allow Red Bull to go again with their football group. They kind of hit a brick wall once Leipzig started getting into Europe and had to place one under their owners name and one under the beverages companies. I wonder if this means they will start looking at Serie A, La Liga, and Premier League clubs? I have always thought that Southampton would be a perfect fit for them. They have the right colour scheme, they have the academy that has produced quality players in the past, and yeah ok they can’t change their name etc under FA rules, but they could splash their brand all over them. It would also be interesting to see if bigger clubs start buying smaller clubs, especially Premier League clubs in order to help them with work visa’s etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack27 Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 1 minute ago, PauloGeordio said: https://nairametrics.com/2023/03/17/777-partners-mulls-potential-investment-in-newcastle-united-fc/ Buying out Staveley? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PauloGeordio Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 1 minute ago, Jack27 said: Buying out Staveley? Not sure what it actually amounts to! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianSwan Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 2 minutes ago, Stifler said: I’m regards to UEFA possibly changing the ownership rules. I wonder what the wider context will be. Everyone is pointing at Qatar being able to buy Man Utd with out having that Qatari banker being the frontman. However it could also help Radcliffe, as he owns Nice and it’s not beyond possibility that they are in the same European competitions as Man Utd in future. Of course people will be looking at us and thinking it may mean our sister clubs might become bigger than the likes Dijion who are rumoured. Myself, I wonder if this will allow Red Bull to go again with their football group. They kind of hit a brick wall once Leipzig started getting into Europe and had to place one under their owners name and one under the beverages companies. I wonder if this means they will start looking at Serie A, La Liga, and Premier League clubs? I have always thought that Southampton would be a perfect fit for them. They have the right colour scheme, they have the academy that has produced quality players in the past, and yeah ok they can’t change their name etc under FA rules, but they could splash their brand all over them. It would also be interesting to see if bigger clubs start buying smaller clubs, especially Premier League clubs in order to help them with work visa’s etc. Southampton.. or Sunderland. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamPS Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, PauloGeordio said: https://nairametrics.com/2023/03/17/777-partners-mulls-potential-investment-in-newcastle-united-fc/ Staveley supposedly had to borrow to fund the investment and given they’ve put more cash in, PCP might be struggling to keep up. maybe they fancy offloading part of their stake for some pocket money Edited March 17, 2023 by WilliamPS Spelling Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack27 Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Bit of a strange one if it’s our route into the multi club ownership world, would have expected us to form our own group Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 It’s a mess of an article. It talks as if they are wanting to raise capital, then talks as if they are wanting to invest themselves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Just now, WilliamPS said: Staveley supposedly had to borrow to fund the investment and given they’ve put more cash in, PCP might be struggling to keep up. maybe they fancy offloading part of half their stake for some pocket money I wouldn’t read a lot into it. A couple of weeks ago they were supposed to be buying Everton. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 (edited) Staverley said from the start they wouldn't be here forever, though they seem to be having so much fun that i doubt they'll be off anytime soon, they can probably sell half their stake for as much as they put in at this point and retain seats on board etc. But as said that doesnt look super credible but wouldnt shock me to see Staverley sell some at some point Edited March 17, 2023 by Tiresias Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack27 Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, Stifler said: I wouldn’t read a lot into it. A couple of weeks ago they were supposed to be buying Everton. That was MSP wasn’t it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Just now, Jack27 said: That was MSP wasn’t it? Who? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiresias Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Manic Street Preachers??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack27 Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 1 minute ago, Stifler said: Who? MSP Sports Capital were the ones after a stake in Everton I thought https://www.footballinsider247.com/everton-in-advanced-talks-with-msp-sports-capital-sources/?amp Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stifler Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 4 minutes ago, Jack27 said: MSP Sports Capital were the ones after a stake in Everton I thought https://www.footballinsider247.com/everton-in-advanced-talks-with-msp-sports-capital-sources/?amp https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-11764517/amp/Miami-based-investment-firm-777-Partners-considering-investment-Everton.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 39 minutes ago, Tiresias said: Staverley said from the start they wouldn't be here forever, though they seem to be having so much fun that i doubt they'll be off anytime soon, they can probably sell half their stake for as much as they put in at this point and retain seats on board etc. But as said that doesnt look super credible but wouldnt shock me to see Staverley sell some at some point Sge has already stated previously that their shares maybe diluted at some point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBottle Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 4 hours ago, Stifler said: It’s a mess of an article. It talks as if they are wanting to raise capital, then talks as if they are wanting to invest themselves. Agreed, it’s complete and utter gibberish. Had to read it three times as I thought I was having comprehension issues before realising I was reading a ‘journalist’ who can’t get a three paragraph story making sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitley mag Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 (edited) Staveley actually hinted at this in her interview, instead of PIF buying other clubs outright they may go down another route. This isn’t about PCP diluting their stake though I agree it’s a poorly written article, this is about linking up and having an investment in multiple clubs without owning them outright. Edited March 18, 2023 by Whitley mag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheInfiniteOdyssey Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 I wonder if the club will use the international break as an opportunity to announce further commercial deals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KetsbaiaIsBald Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 1 minute ago, TheInfiniteOdyssey said: I wonder if the club will use the international break as an opportunity to announce further commercial deals. I'm guessing they're either with the premier league approval point or the current deals block the announcement of then next one until a certain time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turnbull2000 Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 The Premier League could still cripple our progress if they deny a significant increase in commercial income. Europe + only a marginally improved squad could send us back down mid-table to 8th-12th. We clearly have the potential to grow significantly and don't see why commercial sponsorship can't reflect that. Unfortunately the PL could have other ideas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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