PIF, PCP, and RB Sports & Media

[robbo_11]

I saw a few posts in other threads over the last week or so and thought best to stick relatively on topic with this one, but the CEO and Sporting Director searches are longer term going to be more defining for the new ownership than January. It is a relatively new area with some emerging research coming through at the elite level of mistakes and misinformation about the roles that have led to issues at clubs so while it is taking some time I'm glad they'll vet candidates thoroughly. Short term the aim is to stay up, but longer term the process has to be to catch up on at least 10 years lost!

 

I'm fairly sure Steve Harper completed a Masters around being a Sports Director, but for those interested look into Dr Dan Parnell and the Association of Sporting Directors. They have recently covered the self imposed complications about player recruitment at an elite level where essentially it is built on trust, word of mouth and reputation - "a closed network". You may also see some familiar names referenced in that network who have been mentioned in relation to the roles at Newcastle such as Mike Rigg, Kevin Thelwell and Michael Edwards.

[Doc]

20 hours ago, LFEE said:

Yep. For those that didn’t get the reference the club pioneered beam backs for 3pm KO’s due to demand for away games with the help of NTL who became our sponsors for a bit. Initially held at the club but increased in size to the local Odeon cinema also. The lockout derby was beamed back to a sold out Arena even and atmosphere was legendary according to family (I actually was inside Roker Park for the game) 

I was in Roker Park main stand seats for that one LFEE (not very nice ) but i also went to The Arena for one.

I cant remember the year but I went with two mates and one of their dads who was red and white, I imagine he would have felt the same as I did at Roker.

[pedro111]

6 hours ago, gjohnson said:

Lisa Shaw?

 

The one I was on about was definitely Ingrid. 

[Whitley mag]

 

[the fella]

7 hours ago, Scoot said:

Anyone remember going to the arena for the mackem away game for the beam back. 11,000 people there, no away fans allowed at roker Park. 96/97 season so I'd have been 12 or 13. It was absolutely class like.

Yes, was there with about 5 or 6 mates. 1 down at ht but won 2-1. Sure it was Sir Les and Beardsley who scored.

[Wolfcastle]

2 hours ago, the fella said:

Yes, was there with about 5 or 6 mates. 1 down at ht but won 2-1. Sure it was Sir Les and Beardsley who scored.

 

Snap. Remembering braying the rim of the exit ramps on the way out to  "toon toon"

 

Beambacks at the platinum club too cause of the demand for away tickets. Remember the Bolton game in 95 they ran out of beer, was a sweltering night.

[Wolfcastle]

On 15/12/2021 at 20:35, Rafalove said:

Great reading the stories about our progression under the 90’s most of which I wasn’t aware of. Does anyone have any proof of any of this? Just when people say we “outsold Liverpool”, it seems unbelievable to be honest. Any non Newcastle fan reading this would think we’ve gone full rtg.

 

 

 

 

Freddie Fletcher said we broke the record, I presume either for shirts sales or money made from them, in 1993 - if so then we outsold everyone.

Remember hearing that we were second only to Man United and third in the UK behind Man U and Rangers in the mid 90s commercially, sort of thing you'd see on the season video installments or in the official black and white magazine the club did, probably again from Fletcher, but no can't confirm where without researching.

 

There used to be thousands queuing around the city to get the new shirts and they did big launches for them. Can't remember if it was asics or adidas but trucks carrying them got knicked too. Was an absolute clamour back then and the media often picked up on how many of our fans wore the shirts which must have stood out compared to others.

 

 

Edited December 17, 2021 by Wolfcastle

[ennyoueffsea]

On 15/12/2021 at 21:35, pedro111 said:

Aye I remember going to the Odeon for the games it was packed. That fit lass from Metro Radio used to host it or something. Went to loads of beam backs at SJP too. 

Also remember watching the away match at Liverpool at the City Hall.

 

Great times. 👍

[Joey Linton]

 

 

Unlucky lads

[Stifler]

‘Fuck, they got us!’

[Thumbheed]

7 minutes ago, Joey Linton said:

 

 

Unlucky lads

 The kind of shitehousery I live for.

[LFEE]

 

[nbthree3]

 

[PauloGeordio]

17 minutes ago, Thumbheed said:

 The kind of shitehousery I live for.

Is this good for us shithousery? 🤞🏻

[nbthree3]

2 minutes ago, nbthree3 said:

 

Every club sponsorship deal worth more than £1 million a year will have to be submitted to the Premier League to be checked that it is not an “associated party” transaction, according to new regulations sent to top-flight clubs.

 

It adds: “Where the board determines that [it] is an associated party transaction or that it has reasonable grounds to suspect that it is otherwise than at arm’s length, it will conduct a fair market value assessment of it.”

Each club will have to provide financial details of all sponsorship deals they have done since 2016 to form a “databank” that will be used to determine fair market values. Promoted clubs will have to provide the past five years of their sponsorship transactions.

The regulations state that the information would only be used for the fair market value assessments and would be “subject to strict information security measures agreed by the board and clubs, including as to access rights, storage, retention and deletion”.

[geordie_b]

"Incoming sponsorship from 100 different Saudi state companies, valued at 999k each!"

[Wilson]

4 minutes ago, nbthree3 said:

Each club will have to provide financial details of all sponsorship deals they have done since 2016 to form a “databank” that will be used to determine fair market values.

 

the lengths they're going to, to preserve the status quo is fuckin ridiculous.

 

[NUFC_Chris]

26 minutes ago, Wilson said:

 

the lengths they're going to, to preserve the status quo is fuckin ridiculous.

 

Pretty appalling really. They’re using previous sponsorships dating back to 2016 as a benchmark, rather than what other clubs have been receiving for years. This allows for the likes of City to continue receiving huge sums whilst limiting any possible growth.

If true, the club I’m sure will be taking them to court again, and I can’t feasibly see how anyone could not see this as being anything other than anti-competitive.

I’ve really had my eyes opened to the extent the supposed big 6 have turned the league into a complete racket. 

[JonBez comesock]

I don’t see any issues here 

 

if we get sponsored by a PIF related company it’s goes to an independent panel and we can get fair market value (which we can argue should be amongst the top in the premier league) 

 

reasons - We are now the richest club in the world and nearly every company involved with PIF would love to be associated  with a team with such potential , TEAM on the rise , future champions league , chance to have their business/company shown all over EUROPE/MENA regions 

 

Of its Saudi state sponsors - We have already proved separation , so no need to again ?

 

Also we can employ the best lawyers going and will do.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited December 21, 2021 by JonBez comesock

[Joey Linton]

Meanwhile Arsenal sponsored by Emirates can play in the Emirates sponsored FA Cup.

[Rafalove]

1 hour ago, LFEE said:

 

 

 

 

[MagCA]

Not finding it super fun that now we have a new shiny rich as fuck takeover all this red tape has suddenly appeared 

[et tu brute]

2 minutes ago, MagCA said:

Not finding it super fun that now we have a new shiny rich as fuck takeover all this red tape has suddenly appeared 

Take them to court and I’m certain they will. Any legal action could actually blow football apart as it could also impact FFP rules. 

[Kanji]

So fucking annoying 

[Scoot]

2 hours ago, Joey Linton said:

 

 

Unlucky lads

 

They made such a big song and dance about getting clarity that we aren't owned by the Saudi state and now they're saying related party transactions have to be fair market value (PIF sponsorship) that they've left tje door wide open for us to be state sponsored.