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11 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said:

This appears to be that we’re giving Howe a huge amount of say (based on some of the reported transfer targets coming from him and now this). That’s not a problem, as long as Howe and the people he surrounds himself  are actually good enough to kick us on.

 

The context dictates that Howe's job is to keep us up and stabilise the team, imo. How well he performs that task will determine whether or not he's chosen to 'kick us on'. If they don't fancy him for that, he'll be replaced, but in the mean time they need to provide him with the resources to resolve the immediate issues. 

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5 minutes ago, r0cafella said:

people would have absolutely raged if Bruce brought in his son when he was here. :lol:

 

Aye because Bruce is a piece of shit and his son is a piece of shit shit out by another piece of shit. Whereas I've actually got a bit of faith that Howe actually knows what he's doing and that he'll have spent more than a microsecond weighing-up 'the optics' of such a move. Unlike Bruce, he'll have the word 'nepotism' in his lexicon and will have adjudged that the benefit of the appointment will outweigh the impacts of any raised eyebrows. 

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Sorry, but if the guy has ability and anywhere near the kind of work ethic his uncle does, and they are already familiar with each other and have a previous working relationship that was fruitful then yes, get him in.

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From The Athletic:

 

“The former Bournemouth head of first-team domestic player scouting was in the running for openings at other Premier League and EFL clubs, but he will work under Steve Nickson, the head of recruitment, at St James’ Park.”

 

and..

 

“To appoint another scout before a director of football in place is unusual, but so too was appointing a head coach before the executive structure was agreed upon, and Nickson’s team, like many other departments, was extremely pared-down under Mike Ashley’s ownership, so the additional expertise is deemed essential.”

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1 hour ago, KaKa said:

Sorry, but if the guy has ability and anywhere near the kind of work ethic his uncle does, and they are already familiar with each other and have a previous working relationship that was fruitful then yes, get him in.

Was posted earlier https://www.dorset.live/sport/football/football-news/under-8s-assistant-head-uk-6537928

 

Last summer, six months prior to his exit, one source gave a glowing account to DorsetLive of Howe's contribution within the recruitment team. The source spoke of Howe working long hours, often staying late at the club's offices to sieve through the meticulous processes scouting can entail.

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12 minutes ago, Manxst said:

From The Athletic:

 

“The former Bournemouth head of first-team domestic player scouting was in the running for openings at other Premier League and EFL clubs, but he will work under Steve Nickson, the head of recruitment, at St James’ Park.”

 

and..

 

“To appoint another scout before a director of football in place is unusual, but so too was appointing a head coach before the executive structure was agreed upon, and Nickson’s team, like many other departments, was extremely pared-down under Mike Ashley’s ownership, so the additional expertise is deemed essential.”

 

Works for me, with the obvious nepotism included. 

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Could be, and I know this is radical, but the club wants people who they can trust. Perhaps Howe has suggested someone he is familiar with and perhaps the board look at it as a smart move, in short term at least.

 

I'd like to think they had interviewed him, in his own merit and that anyone he's working with will have given it the green light.

 

It's not exactly a senior role at the club either, in fact its a role that certainly didn't exist under the previous owner.

 

Fancy the idea of a recruitment team, consisting of people who know and trust each other. If you think other clubs hire people purely on merit, you haven't been paying attention. 

 

 

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Al Sorour will join Al-Rumayyan, left, and Stavely on the Newcastle board

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Martyn Ziegler, Owen Slot

Monday January 24 2022, 5.00pm, The Times

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The Saudi Arabian owners of Newcastle United have ambitions to make the club the focal point of a global sports and football portfolio.

Saudi Arabia’s immensely wealthy Public Investment Fund (PIF), which owns 80 per cent of Newcastle, wants to mirror the multi-club approach taken by Manchester City’s Abu Dhabi owners, but is also considering investing in other sports too.

That ambition will be given impetus by a move by Newcastle’s owners to appoint Majed Al Sorour, the chief executive of the Saudi Golf Federation who has led Saudi Arabia’s drive to bring the world’s top golfers to play in the Gulf kingdom, as a new director of the club. It is understood the appointment has been passed to the Premier League for approval under its owners’ and directors’ test.

 

The PIF is chaired by Saudi Arabia’s Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman and sources say that it wants to have a global presence in sport far larger than just its £244 million investment into Newcastle. The fund manages assets worth £355 billion at the moment and has outlined plans to increase that by another £200 billion by 2025.

The City Football Group owns 14 clubs in ten countries — four of them partner women’s clubs including Manchester City Women — and is valued at more than $5 billion (£3.71 billion). Executives at the group say commercial and marketing expertise, technology, scouting and other services can be shared among all the clubs.

 

Costs that may have had to be borne solely by City can also be spread across the group, which may help hit financial fair play targets. In Spain, Atletico Madrid also own a number of feeder clubs.

The Saudi PIF may look beyond just football, however, as part of their sporting investment plans and will consider any opportunity seen as worthwhile.

Amnesty International has said it believes Saudi Arabia is using “sportswashing” to improve its international public image in the face of the regime’s “appalling human rights record”. Newcastle’s squad are in Saudi Arabia this week and Amnesty said it feared the visit will turn into “another PR opportunity for the Saudi authorities”.

 

Al Sorour is a close associate of Yasir Al-Rumayyan, the PIF governor who is the chairman of Newcastle. Al-Rumayyan is also the chairman of the Saudi Golf Federation and Al Sorour, a former professional footballer in Saudi Arabia, has been seen with him in the directors’ box at Newcastle matches.

His appointment will mean there are two Saudi representatives on the board, alongside the minority shareholders Amanda Staveley and the Reuben brothers.

Al Sorour is an adviser to the PIF and has been on the board of the football club Al-Nassr in Riyadh. Last month Al-Rumayyan was appointed president of the Asian Golf Federation and Al Sorour as secretary general of the organisation.

 

The PIF is sponsoring the controversial Saudi International golf event next month which will feature more than 30 members of the DP World Tour — the rebranded European Tour — taking part following months of negotiations.

The event near Jeddah carries huge appearance fees and the field is expected to include players such as Paul Casey, Tommy Fleetwood, Sergio García, Shane Lowry, Henrik Stenson, Ian Poulter and Lee Westwood.

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11 minutes ago, TRon said:

The Saudi Arabian owners of Newcastle United have ambitions to make the club the focal point of a global sports and football portfolio.


Someone might need to go across and check on RTG. They’re all still convinced we’re going to become dwarfed by Inter Milan.

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1 minute ago, Fantail Breeze said:


Someone might need to go across and check on RTG. They’re all still convinced we’re going to become dwarfed by Inter Milan.

 

I think for their mental health that's probably a good perspective for them. They will probably be dreaming we get relegated, they beat us 9-1 in the derby next year sending us down to the third division while they take their rightful place in the Premier. Who needs drugs?

 

 

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11 minutes ago, TRon said:

Al Sorour will join Al-Rumayyan, left, and Stavely on the Newcastle board

EPA

Martyn Ziegler, Owen Slot

Monday January 24 2022, 5.00pm, The Times

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The Saudi Arabian owners of Newcastle United have ambitions to make the club the focal point of a global sports and football portfolio.

Saudi Arabia’s immensely wealthy Public Investment Fund (PIF), which owns 80 per cent of Newcastle, wants to mirror the multi-club approach taken by Manchester City’s Abu Dhabi owners, but is also considering investing in other sports too.

That ambition will be given impetus by a move by Newcastle’s owners to appoint Majed Al Sorour, the chief executive of the Saudi Golf Federation who has led Saudi Arabia’s drive to bring the world’s top golfers to play in the Gulf kingdom, as a new director of the club. It is understood the appointment has been passed to the Premier League for approval under its owners’ and directors’ test.

 

The PIF is chaired by Saudi Arabia’s Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman and sources say that it wants to have a global presence in sport far larger than just its £244 million investment into Newcastle. The fund manages assets worth £355 billion at the moment and has outlined plans to increase that by another £200 billion by 2025.

The City Football Group owns 14 clubs in ten countries — four of them partner women’s clubs including Manchester City Women — and is valued at more than $5 billion (£3.71 billion). Executives at the group say commercial and marketing expertise, technology, scouting and other services can be shared among all the clubs.

 

Costs that may have had to be borne solely by City can also be spread across the group, which may help hit financial fair play targets. In Spain, Atletico Madrid also own a number of feeder clubs.

The Saudi PIF may look beyond just football, however, as part of their sporting investment plans and will consider any opportunity seen as worthwhile.

Amnesty International has said it believes Saudi Arabia is using “sportswashing” to improve its international public image in the face of the regime’s “appalling human rights record”. Newcastle’s squad are in Saudi Arabia this week and Amnesty said it feared the visit will turn into “another PR opportunity for the Saudi authorities”.

 

Al Sorour is a close associate of Yasir Al-Rumayyan, the PIF governor who is the chairman of Newcastle. Al-Rumayyan is also the chairman of the Saudi Golf Federation and Al Sorour, a former professional footballer in Saudi Arabia, has been seen with him in the directors’ box at Newcastle matches.

His appointment will mean there are two Saudi representatives on the board, alongside the minority shareholders Amanda Staveley and the Reuben brothers.

Al Sorour is an adviser to the PIF and has been on the board of the football club Al-Nassr in Riyadh. Last month Al-Rumayyan was appointed president of the Asian Golf Federation and Al Sorour as secretary general of the organisation.

 

The PIF is sponsoring the controversial Saudi International golf event next month which will feature more than 30 members of the DP World Tour — the rebranded European Tour — taking part following months of negotiations.

The event near Jeddah carries huge appearance fees and the field is expected to include players such as Paul Casey, Tommy Fleetwood, Sergio García, Shane Lowry, Henrik Stenson, Ian Poulter and Lee Westwood.

To me i and I guess most on here will understand the shit we get from everyone and it’s not our fault it’s mostly jealous people and the moral crusaders up in arms but they have just got to accept it , the sporting names and big sporting events involving Saudi Arabia will not go away this is long term and people have to deal with it as it will benefit so many and especially us so I say fuck off everyone and deal with it as we didn’t choose our owners they chose us and thanks to Amanda and Jamie we got it happy days 

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2 minutes ago, Pixelphish said:

Premier League approval? Look forward to welcoming him to SJP in 2 years.

 

Not if he invites Master & co. to a round of golf in the upcoming world event in Jeddah! It’ll be a hole in one. 

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14 hours ago, worthy said:

Also, what happens when we get a DOF and he wants to get rid of him due to wanting people with higher reputation or better resumes? Its too iffy for me like.

I hope we don't hire a DoF who only cares about reputation. Any Tom, Dick or Harry could do that job.

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