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Eddie Howe: shortlisted for Manager of the Season


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Just now, The Prophet said:

 

Good to hear the views of a fan who has first hand experience. Mind, if he's decent at spending a bit of cash to get underperformed clubs up the table, he sounds ideal :lol:

Yes, in that sense he might actually be perfect 😅

 

At Gladbach and Nice he had money to spend and low expectations, so he has found ideal jobs to go to - and we are currently in same situation. I am pretty sure that this is his pitch for this job with us.

 

But we have all-around better options than him. Mind I’m not convinced about Fonseca either and I would rather go for someone who can bring us to next level. I prefer likes of Ten Hag, Unai Emery and Ralf Rangnick.

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I doubt Fonseca is being used as a backup.

 

The consortium obviously have a timescale in mind, that's why Jones was definitive in stating he'd been given Palace and Chelsea.

 

Given what we seemingly know with Fonseca, talks are underway and there's a number of interviews covering finances, philosophy, etc. I'd imagine as with any interview process, he'll be aware he isn't the only candidate under consideration.

 

The consortium have been excellent at keeping things quiet, we only have agent leaks and limited ITK snippets to go on, but its become obvious the British press don't have a clue and are just fishing for clicks at this stage. 

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14 minutes ago, Dokko said:

Feel sorry for Fonseca, at this point without having any inside knowledge he looks like he’s being treat as the backup plan. Which is great for us, at a minimum we’re getting someone like him but of course there is a chance someone better is also interested. Lovely position to be in.  


This is probably what normally happens at clubs but we’ve not been normal for some time. Interview several candidates and go for who we want rather than just being an available PL job no top manager would want to audition for.

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7 minutes ago, Elephant said:

Yes, in that sense he might actually be perfect 😅

 

At Gladbach and Nice he had money to spend and low expectations, so he has found ideal jobs to go to - and we are currently in same situation. I am pretty sure that this is his pitch for this job with us.

 

But we have all-around better options than him. Mind I’m not convinced about Fonseca either and I would rather go for someone who can bring us to next level. I prefer likes of Ten Hag, Unai Emery and Ralf Rangnick.

Isn’t Favre the King of overperforming xGs though? Or am I mistaking him for someone else? If there’s anything this squad needs, its someone who can coach and drill an approach that gets results more than the sum of it’s parts. I appreciate that real life isn’t FM though.

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7 minutes ago, Emotic said:

Isn’t Favre the King of overperforming xGs though? Or am I mistaking him for someone else? If there’s anything this squad needs, its someone who can coach and drill an approach that gets results more than the sum of it’s parts. I appreciate that real life isn’t FM though.

A manager doesn't get you to overperform xG though. Good keepers and good goalscorers get you to do that.

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11 minutes ago, Emotic said:

Isn’t Favre the King of overperforming xGs though? Or am I mistaking him for someone else? If there’s anything this squad needs, its someone who can coach and drill an approach that gets results more than the sum of it’s parts. I appreciate that real life isn’t FM though.

Favre can prove how wrong stats can be. It is because his side never seem to shoot at any situation except until it is almost sure goal. It can be very frustrating to watch and just shows how stats are not the whole truth.

 

And obviously having someone like Håland helps alot.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, ATF said:

A manager doesn't get you to overperform xG though. Good keepers and good goalscorers get you to do that.

This is truth. Having no good plan for attacking play with world-class players gets you good xG too, when situations don’t come so much, but attackers use them well. But with Favre it’s even more about not even shooting until it’s absolutely sure to score.

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2 minutes ago, Elephant said:

This is truth. Having no good plan for attacking play with world-class players gets you good xG too, when situations don’t come so much, but attackers use them well. But with Favre it’s even more about not even shooting until it’s absolutely sure to score.

Now he just sounds like a Swiss Wenger and I don’t want him any more[emoji38] 

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1 hour ago, Jimwallace197 said:

 

Yes, with a pretty impressive team including De Jong, De Ligt, Van Der Beek amongst many other good players, finished second in their group ahead of Athens & Benfica. Knocked out in semi's by Spurs, I'm not knocking him too much but we need a different type of manager now. That's why I'm not sold on the appointment of Fonseca either, too idealistic in their style of football. Lesser forms of Pep & Klopp at best. Not what we need at this moment in time.  

 

With Benitez, we know he's going to organise the defence & make us a much more difficult team to score against which is exactly what we need. With Favre, he saved Borrusia mönchengladbach from the depths of hell in an extremely difficult relegation battle a number of years ago in the Bundesliga so he has form. Also, both are old enough & experienced enough to handle high pressured situations. 

 

 

So because he’s built a really good team, that somehow detracts from his achievements? De Jong flopped after Barca, and VDB can’t get a game. They beat Real Madrid and Juventus. 

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1 minute ago, ManDoon said:

So because he’s built a really good team, that somehow detracts from his achievements? De Jong flopped after Barca, and VDB can’t get a game. They beat Real Madrid and Juventus. 

 

Never said he was a bad manager, just not right for us at this stage. A tad over rated imo, Dutch football is very different to the pl as many players & coaches have found out over the years. He's not someone we should be taking a punt on in a relegation scrap in the biggest league in the world. 

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1 minute ago, Jimwallace197 said:

 

Never said he was a bad manager, just not right for us at this stage. A tad over rated imo, Dutch football is very different to the pl as many players & coaches have found out over the years. He's not someone we should be taking a punt on in a relegation scrap in the biggest league in the world. 

Yeah but he’s proven it outside of Dutch football is what I’m saying. 

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1 minute ago, Jimwallace197 said:

 

Never said he was a bad manager, just not right for us at this stage. A tad over rated imo, Dutch football is very different to the pl as many players & coaches have found out over the years. He's not someone we should be taking a punt on in a relegation scrap in the biggest league in the world. 

A tad over rated, and yet courted by Manchester United and Barcelona? We’ll be lucky to get him, IF we do, but we should at least be trying. He’s worked with some of the best young players in the world, and no only that but developed them- a concept that’s been lacking at our club for decades. 

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1 minute ago, Pokerprince2004 said:

Just been listening to the 'Pod on the Tyne' with Caulkin. He said he has been told on more than 1 occasion that it will not  be Fonseca who we appoint. Found that very interesting as Caulkin has links to Staveley. 

 

Mr No Red Flags 🚩 also led the claims that Bruce would be sacked before the Tottenham game, to be fair.

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3 minutes ago, ManDoon said:

Yeah but he’s proven it outside of Dutch football is what I’m saying. 

Yah he did well with FC Utrect in the bundesliga but not much else. Again, not writing him off but he's not the type of manager we need now. Favre or Benitez anyday over him. 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Jimwallace197 said:

Yah he did well with FC Utrect in the bundesliga but not much else. Again, not writing him off but he's not the type of manager we need now. Favre or Benitez anyday over him. 

 

 

I must have missed the Dutch city of Utrecht relocating to Germany 

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