Doctor Zaius Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 1 minute ago, Inferior Acuña said: Sorry to nitpick - but believe the first game of the next season was 1-1 draw away at Old Trafford. Won first home game - 1-0 Bolton, Nolan pissed a pen for them. (obviously doesnt make difference to your point) Yeah you're right. Jonas had a stormer I remember. Always wonder what KK would have made of that team. Wouldn't have been relegated, I know that fine well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robster Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 2 hours ago, Shearergol said: We all need to keep that in mind I think. I remember a few games in and we lost 0-1 at home to Blackburn I think it was to an injury time winner and I thought that it was never going to come right. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 (edited) I'm definitely not comparing Keegan with Howe here, but the situations have some similarity in that we were a team in transition and it took a period of getting through shit results with improved performances to getting the results to go along with it. It clicked against Fulham at home and by the time we played Reading (still the best football I've seen Newcastle play since Keegan 1.0 - as pathetic as that is) we were fully off and running. The Sunderland 2-0 was about as comfortable and dominating a derby as I can think of, even the 5-1. Up until we properly got going, we had a run of 4 goals in 8 matches and 0 wins in 12, with a frontline of Owen, Viduka, and Martins. Edited January 17, 2022 by Kid Icarus Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 3 hours ago, DJ_NUFC said: Not sure if posted in here but: https://www.planetsport.com/soccer/news/newcastle-start-under-eddie-howe-worst-this-century-bruce-carver-roeder/?bc-1 Oof. Eddie has started with comfortably the worst squad we've had in the last 20 years. Wouldn't read too much into this kind of click-bait. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokerprince2004 Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 Its fair to say Howe has found it tougher than he thought it would be and our squad is even worse than he thought. Dare I say that perhaps Bruce deserves a bit more credit for keeping this shower up for 2 seasons?! Spoiler Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Lack of linked CM's is really worrying. What is this man seeing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 9 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: Lack of linked CM's is really worrying. What is this man seeing? Could quite easily be the mistake that takes us down. I worry that Howe has a strange take on certain players; Lascelles and Shelvey are dangerously bad and he seems to see them as key players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 13 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: Lack of linked CM's is really worrying. What is this man seeing? Fwiw Chris Waugh in the athletic said we want 2 new CMs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 1 minute ago, Fantail Breeze said: Could quite easily be the mistake that takes us down. I worry that Howe has a strange take on certain players; Lascelles and Shelvey are dangerously bad and he seems to see them as key players. Who else do we have in midfield that could have replaced Shelvey?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 I’m not sure who the media links us with has much to do with how Eddie Howe sees the team. We do desperately need them though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 14 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: Lack of linked CM's is really worrying. What is this man seeing? from The Athletic yesterday: “Let’s start with the business they still want to do — which positions are they actively looking to strengthen? Come February 1, ideally, Newcastle will have signed — on top of Kieran Trippier and Chris Wood — two new centre-backs, a left-back, at least one central midfielder and another forward, while even a goalkeeper addition has not been ruled out.” “While a regular criticism of Lee Charnley, the previous managing director, was that multiple deals were rarely negotiated at the same time, Newcastle’s recruitment team have been attempting to sign players for several positions simultaneously.” “In midfield, beyond Lingard, several ambitious loan enquiries have been launched for, among others, Donny van de Beek at Manchester United, and Georginio Wijnaldum and Idrissa Gana Gueye at Paris Saint-Germain, to no avail yet. There is, though, a realisation that players are more likely to move on loan towards the end of January, so there is hope quality temporary signings can still arrive. Todd Cantwell is also liked by Newcastle, though Norwich City’s asking price will need to drop for a deal to be reached. RB Leipzig’s Amadou Haidara, Marseille’s Boubacar Kamara and Lyon’s Bruno Guimaraes have also been scouted extensively.” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Positive news. this administration seem very leaky. So I thought we would hear more about possible CM deals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, Elliottman said: Who else do we have in midfield that could have replaced Shelvey?! Good point - it’d be impossible for someone else to replace his glittering contribution of 1 goal, 0 assists. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 All our CMs are dire, I don’t think any combination results in a midfield that can really contribute or compete in a PL game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: Positive news. this administration seem very leaky. So I thought we would hear more about possible CM deals. Or else certain other clubs and agents are ‘leaky’ and other clubs and agents are less so. No one knows for sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elliottman Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 14 minutes ago, Fantail Breeze said: Good point - it’d be impossible for someone else to replace his glittering contribution of 1 goal, 0 assists. so who? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Just now, Elliottman said: so who? Longstaff, Joelinton (slightly ahead of the other two) and Hayden would be our best midfield partnership right now, but one is crocked. With Hayden injured I’d have prioritised buying a DM, as @ManDoonhas said, even someone relatively unknown at £5m would be more beneficial than having Shelvey walk around the middle of the pitch. Or, I’d just play the two who are fit and change the formation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 1 hour ago, The College Dropout said: Lack of linked CM's is really worrying. What is this man seeing? Can't really answer that definitively until the 31st January. I have a hunch we'll get a CM in next week some time, might be on loan. The priority was said to be defenders and strikers, I can understand that, but we do need a CM, and by that I mean a genuine CM, not a floaty forward who can get in between the lines and score a nice goal such as Cantwell. We need someone who can operate box to box, who can tackle or press effectively, and has good possession stats as well. If we don't have one by the end of the window I would definitely be concerned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 Just now, TRon said: Can't really answer that definitively until the 31st January. I have a hunch we'll get a CM in next week some time, might be on loan. The priority was said to be defenders and strikers, I can understand that, but we do need a CM, and by that I mean a genuine CM, not a floaty forward who can get in between the lines and score a nice goal such as Cantwell. We need someone who can operate box to box, who can tackle or press effectively, and has good possession stats as well. If we don't have one by the end of the window I would definitely be concerned. Probably a bit OTT from me. But even if we get a couple of defenders and another striker in. I’d say we’re basically dead certs to go down if we try and plod on with this midfield until the end of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiquidAK Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said: Probably a bit OTT from me. But even if we get a couple of defenders and another striker in. I’d say we’re basically dead certs to go down if we try and plod on with this midfield until the end of the season. Agreed. It’s an essential before the end of the window for me, if we could only have 1 more signing it has to be a CM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 45 minutes ago, Lush Vlad said: Probably a bit OTT from me. But even if we get a couple of defenders and another striker in. I’d say we’re basically dead certs to go down if we try and plod on with this midfield until the end of the season. Agreed. A CM is right up there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 4 hours ago, The College Dropout said: Lack of linked CM's is really worrying. What is this man seeing? Aye the knee bone's connected to the thigh bone. If we can't get the central-defender or forwards were after midfield is the next best thing. A good defensive minded one can cover a multitude of sins at the back. To say nothing of the fact that if everybody was fit (Fernandez/Wilson) it would be our weakest part of the field. Think its the worst I've ever seen. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Consortium of one Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, Wolfcastle said: Aye the knee bone's connected to the thigh bone. If we can't get the central-defender or forwards were after midfield is the next best thing. A good defensive minded one can cover a multitude of sins at the back. To say nothing of the fact that if everybody was fit (Fernandez/Wilson) it would be our weakest part of the field. Think its the worst I've ever seen. yeah, I just hope that because the CM chatter is the quietest, it means that we are closing in on one or two. All the media and twitter chatter is BS, IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The College Dropout Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 17 minutes ago, Wolfcastle said: Aye the knee bone's connected to the thigh bone. If we can't get the central-defender or forwards were after midfield is the next best thing. A good defensive minded one can cover a multitude of sins at the back. To say nothing of the fact that if everybody was fit (Fernandez/Wilson) it would be our weakest part of the field. Think its the worst I've ever seen. Despite having prime Wijnaldum & Sissoko available our managers choosing the Anita-Colback pivot is the worst i've ever seen. They didn't have age or injuries as an excuse. They were just bad. Shelvey being an improvement on them both is shocking stuff. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 17 minutes ago, The College Dropout said: Despite having prime Wijnaldum & Sissoko available our managers choosing the Anita-Colback pivot is the worst i've ever seen. They didn't have age or injuries as an excuse. They were just bad. Shelvey being an improvement on them both is shocking stuff. Not sure he was an improvement mind, but yeah that was terrible mis-management. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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