Gazzaschicken Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 10 hours ago, Hanshithispantz said: They're restricted by FFP (Financial Fair Play). People were suggesting we would have about 190 mil to spend but the more we spend of that the less we can spend in future windows. Basically we sort of have to balance buying players we need to take us to the next level and players we really just need to keep us up until the summer. Loans and players coming to the end of their contract fit in the latter bracket. It won't affect the amount we spend over future windows if we generate revenue. They bought us cause we are a profit making club and didnt have any debt. We could spend 500m this window which may be a loss of 300m but that won't be reported for 3 years and as long as that loss is down to less than 105m by that time we are OK. I'm pretty sure the loss depreciates season on season as well. And then we will have sponsorship money as well. I think the hesitant thing is our league position I think if they spend little or just enough to keep us in the league like 50m then the risk vs reward is favourable and in profit. Spending 300m half way through a season to then be relegated is suicide. On the other side they spend 50m then go down they can then do a complete rebuild from fresh all with in profit. That knob Simon Jordan said how we can splash the cash on talkshite and ffp is not an issue when we first got taken over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapo Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 3 hours ago, SUPERTOON said: So does Ghodoussi have an official role at the club then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 2 hours ago, Jinky Jim said: So you think we can survive the rest of the season with Shelvey and one other midfield player……I like your optimism and perhaps that is what will happen, but personally I hope for a complete new midfield. If we get a dominant DM who can allow Shelvey and Willock a bit more freedom to attack we could be onto a winner. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowlingcrofty Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 6 minutes ago, CFlan said: So does Ghodoussi have an official role at the club then? Being a co-owner tends to be fairly official aye. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Gazzaschicken said: It won't affect the amount we spend over future windows if we generate revenue. They bought us cause we are a profit making club and didnt have any debt. We could spend 500m this window which may be a loss of 300m but that won't be reported for 3 years and as long as that loss is down to less than 105m by that time we are OK. I'm pretty sure the loss depreciates season on season as well. And then we will have sponsorship money as well. I think the hesitant thing is our league position I think if they spend little or just enough to keep us in the league like 50m then the risk vs reward is favourable and in profit. Spending 300m half way through a season to then be relegated is suicide. On the other side they spend 50m then go down they can then do a complete rebuild from fresh all with in profit. That knob Simon Jordan said how we can splash the cash on talkshite and ffp is not an issue when we first got taken over. These blokes spend billions on things that explode the first time they use them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapo Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 3 minutes ago, bowlingcrofty said: Being a co-owner tends to be fairly official aye. He’s a director at PCP not Newcastle. Unless I’m missing something? We have 3 directors and he’s not one of them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 2 minutes ago, Happinesstan said: If we get a dominant DM who can allow Shelvey and Willock a bit more freedom to attack we could be onto a winner. If are lucky enough to identify and buy a dominiant DM, he'll improve every one around him. We do need to replace our entire backline, but a DM will improve what we have and ensure that the new players can perform. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pokerprince2004 Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 Listening to the True Faith podcast tonight on the January transfer window and they had a little discussion of Dusan Vlahovic the Fiorentina striker. They reckon we could get him for £70m. Not sure where they've plucked his name from but would be a monumental signing if we could pull it off Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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xLiaaamx Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 That's not as pricey as was first mentioned tbf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 All it would take is one big-ish name to join and others would follow. Just really hope these deals are progressed as close to the window opening and as far away from it closing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbo_11 Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 20 minutes ago, NWMag said: When was the last time we competed with AC Milan for a player? I wonder how close the end of contract list is to players we are looking at, might see Dan-Axel Zagadou come in since he is a left footed CB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nucasol Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 5 minutes ago, robbo_11 said: When was the last time we competed with AC Milan for a player? I wonder how close the end of contract list is to players we are looking at, might see Dan-Axel Zagadou come in since he is a left footed CB. “Zagadou-dou-dou, push pineapple, shake the tree. Zagadou-dou-dou, he’s the centre back for me.” I’ll get my coat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 9 minutes ago, ManDoon said: Just pay it. Fuck it. It’s cheap if you take into account how we haven’t bought a decent defender for about a decade. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Pilgrim Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 Still haven’t seen a second of botman and know nothing about him but it’s a literal disgrace if we don’t sign him anyway, I don’t know why, it is what it is, just buy him and get it over with and then buy some more footballers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awaymag Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 If my footballl manager skills are anything to go by, you can have 4 players signed before the end of the 1st week - just do it guys, never on long enough so that the salaries start to bite! Piece O Piss! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 47 minutes ago, NWMag said: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
midds Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 Pay it, fuck it. Staring down the barrell right now, nothing to lose. Same with Trippier, just cough up right now and worry about the pennies at a later date once we've ensured we've stayed up. Needs must and the needs are fucking massive right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 Botman bit of a statement signing but would he be a hit the ground running signing ? Very young, new to prem etc. I was hoping for a Koulibaly type for the back 4. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HWTL Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 Really hope we sign a good number of players, I think it will be just as hard in the position we are in to get enough quality through the door in January as it will be to stay in the league. So many positions needed to have any chance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 5 minutes ago, madras said: Botman bit of a statement signing but would he be a hit the ground running signing ? Very young, new to prem etc. I was hoping for a Koulibaly type for the back 4. Would definitely be good to get a veteran in as well… hopefully relatively cheap. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 8 minutes ago, madras said: Botman bit of a statement signing but would he be a hit the ground running signing ? Very young, new to prem etc. I was hoping for a Koulibaly type for the back 4. Our situation dictates a Koulibaly signing isn't realistic If we stay up then maybe, otherwise it will be in 18 months assuming we get promoted at the first attempt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 54 minutes ago, ManDoon said: Just pay it. Fuck it. Agree with this massively. It’s a decent price so pay it and get him in asap so he can bed win with the squad. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 4 minutes ago, Geordie Ahmed said: Our situation dictates a Koulibaly signing isn't realistic If we stay up then maybe, otherwise it will be in 18 months assuming we get promoted at the first attempt Really ? I said Koulibaly like not necessarily him. Mix of quality and experience is definitely required there and is as realistic as a Botman with years ahead of him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ikon Posted December 23, 2021 Share Posted December 23, 2021 You talk as if it's a fact that this and that is the fee/wages asked. If we assume it is like you are then yeah, pay it up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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