The Prophet Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 I wouldn't blame any player who doesn't want to join us right now. We're 19th and still settling on the direction of the club. At the same time I wouldn't waste my time trying to persuade them otherwise, move onto the next target down the list. We need players who want to be here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 While that’s fair enough, Digne has two options now (Chelsea & West Ham) where he could bypass ‘the journey’ and go straight there. Can’t begrudge him that, he’ll be first choice at either Chelsea until the summer competing in the top 3 and playing Champions League or West Ham permanently, competing in the top 5/6 and playing Europa League. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HWTL Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 How does ffp work with wages? Does it count or is that just transfer fees. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 7 minutes ago, HWTL said: How does ffp work with wages? Does it count or is that just transfer fees. Wages count too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonBez comesock Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 6 minutes ago, gdm said: I’m afraid this is our biggest problem. Is what it is we are a club 2nd bottom and these players will take one look at it and not fancy it Yes but if you are a player (you have to be able to back yourself) We can only move forward by signing good players , if they can’t see that themselves they are blinkered and do no back themselves If the player sits down and listens to the plan / future / potential signings …and the fact they club want to sign them (then surely if they rate themselves highly) they must think that the tide will turn ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonBez comesock Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 Obviously I am also blinkered as I love Newcastle Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 Just now, JonBez comesock said: Yes but if you are a player (you have to be able to back yourself) They may well back themselves but they may not back the current players that have got us 2nd bottom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmesy Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, JonBez comesock said: Yes but if you are a player (you have to be able to back yourself) We can only move forward by signing good players , if they can’t see that themselves they are blinkered and do no back themselves If the player sits down and listens to the plan / future / potential signings …and the fact they club want to sign them (then surely if they rate themselves highly) they must think that the tide will turn ? It's not about backing yourself at all. Players who make it to the top level have no problem backing themselves. If we're mid-table this situation doesn't occur, it's an easy 'yes'. But, it's still quite likely we'll go down and players don't want a relegation on their CV, to play a year in the second tier or the disruption of moving to one club, only to move to another 6 months later when the first is relegated. To say they don't back themselves is oversimplifying the thought process. They also have to look at the other players at the club - "do i back myself? Yes 100%. Do i back Gayle, Shelvey, Lascelles, Almiron, Longstaff etc? Fuck no" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 I wouldn’t trust 90min.com as a source mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 Just hope the consortium are getting positive noises from somewhere as that’s 3 targets reportedly not keen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieT Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 Edward’s proposing that Nketiah, Solanke, Origi and Cantwell represent our shortlist for forwards. Not really names to inspire huge confidence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 (edited) 1 minute ago, GeordieT said: Edward’s proposing that Nketiah, Solanke, Origi and Cantwell represent our shortlist for forwards. Not really names to inspire huge confidence. No chance on Origi with Salah and Mane away. All would be a huge upgrade on Gayle. Edited January 6, 2022 by SUPERTOON Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
worthy Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 Just now, GeordieT said: Edward’s proposing that Nketiah, Solanke, Origi and Cantwell represent our shortlist for forwards. Not really names to inspire huge confidence. Spunk 17 on that Barbosa guy and hope he its the ground running, if not we might have another BBM on our hands! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 1 minute ago, GeordieT said: Edward’s proposing that Nketiah, Solanke, Origi and Cantwell represent our shortlist for forwards. Not really names to inspire huge confidence. He's class. No chance though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom1988 Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 Origi would be very decent. Whilst maybe not the level that we aspire to long term, if we're talking about the next 6 - 12 months then we could do a lot worse! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 Wouldn’t rule out Origi, Liverpool are being linked with a striker from Porto. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobS Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 5 minutes ago, tom1988 said: Origi would be very decent. Whilst maybe not the level that we aspire to long term, if we're talking about the next 6 - 12 months then we could do a lot worse! Don't see him leaving Liverpool, Klopp and the squad love him, he seems happy to sit and fill in and play for the team etc. If he wanted to get more game time he would of left by now, imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gdm Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 Not excited about any of them other than origi but maybe this is where we are at being 2nd bottom Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 (edited) Please oh please hope we splash the cash for a good forward. We need the goals. Edited January 6, 2022 by nufcjb Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 Just had a bid for Diego Carlos rejected. £25m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 Origi would be a brilliant signing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 Christ, can't keep up. Get excited at a striker link, within seconds discover we've bid £25m for a centre-back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 1 minute ago, Optimistic Nut said: Origi would be a brilliant signing. Agreed but will Liverpool let him go with Salah and Mane missing ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Zaius Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 Surely Howe won't sign Solanke twice!? He scored 3 in 42 PL games for him and was one of the main reasons they went down. Strikers are a bit of a lottery like. More so than other positions. I'd be confident in most of the names mentioned for midfielders and defenders coming in and having an impact. Fuck knows with a striker. Emmanuel Dennis has scored 8 in the first half of the season. He scored 0 in 18 last season over two spells in Belgium and Germany. Who would have guessed that!? Absolute plethora of strikers who have come in for big money and flopped. Vital we get a centre half and a centre midfielder like as we're going to have to get lucky with a forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LFEE Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 3 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: Christ, can't keep up. Get excited at a striker link, within seconds discover we've bid £25m for a centre-back. Apparently they want £40m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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