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2 minutes ago, HTT II said:

That can’t be true surely? He’s out of form for them, but he’s a top top player and will get 20 + a season easily still in the right team. He’d get even more if he could finish…

 

Apparently so. Him and Stones please. Best £70-90m we could ever spend. Gives them the money for Haaland.

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I don't know about you guys but I'm not quite convinced by overspending to only get Lingard, Ake and Tarkowski. I feel that shopping abroad would open up a lot more exciting opportunities. I'm fine with striking a couple good loan deals from EPL clubs in January, but when it comes to investing in the squad for the long run, NUFC should be looking to sign talent from La liga, Serie A and Ligue 1 instead. Hopefully, with someone like Michael Emenalo as DoF.

 

 

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1 minute ago, Khalidao said:

I don't know about you guys but I'm not quite convinced by overspending to only get Lingard, Ake and Tarkowski. I feel that shopping abroad would open up a lot more exciting opportunities. I'm fine with striking a couple good loan deals from EPL clubs in January, but when it comes to investing in the squad for the long run, NUFC should be looking to sign talent from La liga, Serie A and Ligue 1 instead. Hopefully, with someone like Michael Emenalo as DoF.

 

 

The issue is that the league is an uncompromising place to play, and even more so to come in and adapt to it. Those players are mentioned because they’re already used to it and could do an immediate job. Players from

abroad, no matter the reputation, can be overawed, at least for a season or two, and we need results immediately.

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16 minutes ago, HTT II said:

That can’t be true surely? He’s out of form for them, but he’s a top top player and will get 20 + a season easily still in the right team. He’d get even more if he could finish…

 

Out of contract end of next year and already said he wouldn't mind going abroad when that contract is up so I think they'll just be happy to get anything back on him at this point.

 

Said it before but I think we should make him a priority in January, however slim a chance we may have, and then again in the summer if/when we survive.

 

 

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8 minutes ago, Manxst said:

The issue is that the league is an uncompromising place to play, and even more so to come in and adapt to it. Those players are mentioned because they’re already used to it and could do an immediate job. Players from abroad, no matter the reputation, can be overawed, at least for a season or two, and we need results immediately.

 

Could be the case, even if there were some exceptions to the rule over the past few years. I just hope the transfer market strategy will be a mixture of signing proven EPL players and big talents from abroad.

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It WAS 50m in each transfer window. That will have been revised.

 

Without spending silly money, they will do what they have to do to ensure survival.

 

Put it this way, we won't be letting players go for the extra couple of quid like we were doing under Ashley.

 

We also have potential to sell a couple of our fringe players. For example, we could probably get 3/4m for Shelvey from the championship, 1/2 for Clark, 3/4 for Gayle etc.

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3 minutes ago, STM said:

It WAS 50m in each transfer window. That will have been revised.

 

Without spending silly money, they will do what they have to do to ensure survival.

 

Put it this way, we won't be letting players go for the extra couple of quid like we were doing under Ashley.

 

We also have potential to sell a couple of our fringe players. For example, we could probably get 3/4m for Shelvey from the championship, 1/2 for Clark, 3/4 for Gayle etc.

 

Been thinking about this. We need to let our unwanted players go for low offers to start building bridges with other clubs. Get the clubs who generally produce decent talent on board. I'd give Gayle to a Bournemouth, Birmingham or Forest. Shelvey to Fulham, West Brom etc...if they wanted them of course. 

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1 hour ago, Infinitely Content said:


Would love that. I spent a lot of time in Georgia recently and during a cross-country drive into the Greater Caucasus I got onto football with the driver which inevitably led to discussing Temuri. I was expressing how much fondness towards him remains in Newcastle and made a passing comment of how I'd love another Georgian in the side. He then raved about Kvaratskhelia being the best prospect in Georgia for some time, whilst lamenting his move to Russia. Bring him home.


 

just YouTube’s him. He reminds me a lot of Kaka. The player not the lad from here :lol:

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1 hour ago, pinkeye said:

Do you rate Ake?

I think he is average at best and would be disappointed to see him play for us, under any circumstances and not just now that we can seemingly afford players who command high fees and salaries.

 

Whenever I watch him he seems to be at half pace and never actually does anything positive, >90% of passes are sideways or backwards, he doesn't put in a hard tackle and rarely seems to have any impact (positive or negative) in a game.  He - to me - is just a player making up a number on the field, does nothing wrong but, equally does nothing right.

 

I would be open to having my mind changed about him but, that is how I would view him as a player today!

Surely if he is doing nothing right he is doing everything wrong lol.

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PL experience being key is a myth PL based people use to make themselves more important. It's why Signing Seb Larrsson and Craig Gardner was viewed as better than signing Yohan Cabaye in 2012. Until they got on the pitch and it turned out our player was far beyond what the mackems had signed. 

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1 hour ago, pinkeye said:

Do you rate Ake?

I think he is average at best and would be disappointed to see him play for us, under any circumstances and not just now that we can seemingly afford players who command high fees and salaries.

 

Whenever I watch him he seems to be at half pace and never actually does anything positive, >90% of passes are sideways or backwards, he doesn't put in a hard tackle and rarely seems to have any impact (positive or negative) in a game.  He - to me - is just a player making up a number on the field, does nothing wrong but, equally does nothing right.

 

I would be open to having my mind changed about him but, that is how I would view him as a player today!

Haven't seen enough to judge, but the connection to Howe and the need for a left footed CB, coupled with the fact he isn't getting much game time at City makes it an option to explore.

I'm talking about on loan, btw.

 

 

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2 hours ago, Khalidao said:

I don't know about you guys but I'm not quite convinced by overspending to only get Lingard, Ake and Tarkowski. I feel that shopping abroad would open up a lot more exciting opportunities. I'm fine with striking a couple good loan deals from EPL clubs in January, but when it comes to investing in the squad for the long run, NUFC should be looking to sign talent from La liga, Serie A and Ligue 1 instead. Hopefully, with someone like Michael Emenalo as DoF.

 

 

Pretty sure we could get those three without overspending on them, as two of them are out of contract in the summer. They would all be really solid buys/loans for where we are. 

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1 hour ago, Ankles Bennett said:

Surely if he is doing nothing right he is doing everything wrong lol.

Haha, you're right!  I meant his contribution seems to have little impact in the game, he does not seem to make anything better but, also makes nothing worse...  :cheesy:

59 minutes ago, Happinesstan said:

Haven't seen enough to judge, but the connection to Howe and the need for a left footed CB, coupled with the fact he isn't getting much game time at City makes it an option to explore.

I'm talking about on loan, btw.

 

 

 

Is fair enough, he was decent at Bournemouth, decent enough to attract the attention of Man City...  I just personally don't rate him but, I am not an expert! (just a regular punter).

2 hours ago, HTT II said:

I rate him, although he’s probably more a prime Lascelles under Rafa type of CB. He’s quick, good in the air, recovers well from bad positioning/mistakes and above all else, is good on the ball. Plus he’s Gullit’s son…

I just don't see it in him, apart from the wonderful hair.  I do concede to all the comments above that he is probably an upgrade on what we currently have.

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