The Prophet Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 Providing it is on, anything but a Watford win is probably a good result for us, a draw would be ideal though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantail Breeze Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 A draw would be ideal. Beyond that either result would be a bit crap. Burnley winning slightly less crap than Watford but mindful of the fact Burnley would have 2 more games in hand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixx Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 This is looking very rough. The owners have to get used to the pace. Took far too long in sacking Bruce, far too long in hiring a replacement and should have had more lined up before the transfer window opened. I'm fairly sure this means we're down. Spurs hired Conte literally the day after sacking Nuno and we don't seem to be able to compete with Villa for players. It's massively frustrating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Man Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 For what little it is worth the bookmakers had us at odds on to go down at 1/2 after losing to City, we are now even money to go down, make of that what you will.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted January 17, 2022 Share Posted January 17, 2022 2 hours ago, Fantail Breeze said: A draw would be ideal. Beyond that either result would be a bit crap. Burnley winning slightly less crap than Watford but mindful of the fact Burnley would have 2 more games in hand. Against Spurs and Leicester mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mofo Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 Just thinkig about how shit Watford were on Saturday. I cannot see them winning any/many more games this season.. Norwich here were also dire as were Burnley who will strugle to pick up If (and its a big if) we can manage to get a few surprise results I think we can still get out of it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
OoOGazOoO Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 Burnley and Watford has been postponed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRon Posted January 18, 2022 Share Posted January 18, 2022 15 minutes ago, mofo said: Just thinkig about how shit Watford were on Saturday. I cannot see them winning any/many more games this season.. Norwich here were also dire as were Burnley who will strugle to pick up If (and its a big if) we can manage to get a few surprise results I think we can still get out of it. They will need to be surprise results, we aren't winning against the teams around us, means we will have to start getting wins against the better teams soon. I don't see any way back unless we get another 2-4 players in tbh, it's this window or bust. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 The way I’m seeing it is, if we make it to 36 points we’ll be safe. 8 wins, 7 wins and a few draws. On paper I reckon there’s 11 games we need to look at winning in theory, giving 3 games leeway. The rest are write-offs. We need to win 8 of: Leeds (a) Everton (h) Villa (h) Brentford (a) Brighton (h) Palace (h) Wolves (h) Leicester (h) Burnley (a) Southampton (a) Everton (a) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 I don't think we can do enough in January to turn this team from 1 win in 20 to 8 in 18. The team is so monumentally poor all over the pitch, we'd need a CB and two CMs to have half a chance imo. Our midfield and defence is absolutely woeful beyond belief, its nowhere near PL standard and what we're seeing now was coming for years with this squad. Can a few signings turn things around? I hope so but we'll still be going into some of those fixtures with the likes of Shelvey, Ritchie, Lascelles etc from our Championship team playing. We really need a draw tonight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awaymag Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 33 minutes ago, Decky said: I don't think we can do enough in January to turn this team from 1 win in 20 to 8 in 18. The team is so monumentally poor all over the pitch, we'd need a CB and two CMs to have half a chance imo. Our midfield and defence is absolutely woeful beyond belief, its nowhere near PL standard and what we're seeing now was coming for years with this squad. Can a few signings turn things around? I hope so but we'll still be going into some of those fixtures with the likes of Shelvey, Ritchie, Lascelles etc from our Championship team playing. We really need a draw tonight. Eddie doesn't need to do that at all (text in bold). All he has to do is get more points than Watford, Burnley and Norwich. If they only win 3 more games each then Eddie has to win 4, its that simple. This 40 point safety target is not relevant this season due to the poor form of the bottom 4. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dandy Man Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 Somewhere between 5 and 6 seems about right for me currently, could increase a good bit depending on what happens on and off pitch in next few weeks though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karjala Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 All the people saying we 'only' need 6 wins, or we need 8 wins, how likely is it given that we've won 1 from 20 (or 22 inc cups)? Norwich have put themselves in pole position now, 4 wins from 22, and i'd say its just as likely, or more likely they'll win 4 from their last 16, than us winning 6 from 18. Norwich have home games against Palace, Brentford, Burnley, Newcastle, and away matches at Southampton, Wolves, Villa, Brighton and Leeds - and one things for sure , they haven't given up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc123 Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 As long as the table shows 1 win its a solid 10. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
et tu brute Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 16 minutes ago, Karjala said: All the people saying we 'only' need 6 wins, or we need 8 wins, how likely is it given that we've won 1 from 20 (or 22 inc cups)? Norwich have put themselves in pole position now, 4 wins from 22, and i'd say its just as likely, or more likely they'll win 4 from their last 16, than us winning 6 from 18. Norwich have home games against Palace, Brentford, Burnley, Newcastle, and away matches at Southampton, Wolves, Villa, Brighton and Leeds - and one things for sure , they haven't given up. If we can’t finish above Norwich then you don’t deserve to stay up. There are no excuses or reasons now. There would have been more than enough games and a transfer window to ensure we finish above three teams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
madras Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 47 minutes ago, Karjala said: All the people saying we 'only' need 6 wins, or we need 8 wins, how likely is it given that we've won 1 from 20 (or 22 inc cups)? Norwich have put themselves in pole position now, 4 wins from 22, and i'd say its just as likely, or more likely they'll win 4 from their last 16, than us winning 6 from 18. Norwich have home games against Palace, Brentford, Burnley, Newcastle, and away matches at Southampton, Wolves, Villa, Brighton and Leeds - and one things for sure , they haven't given up. We need to finish above the 3rd bottom team. No more no less. Don't even need more points then them, don't need a certain number of wins, goals, clean sheets or even points. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 It's amazing we're even still in with a chance tbh. If we assume Burnley win all their games in hand then we're 5 points behind them. If we can't make up 5 points on Burnley in 18 games then we deserve to go down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 It all hinges on us signing a midfield though. With our current players in CM we're down, no doubt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gawalls Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 1 hour ago, nufc123 said: As long as the table shows 1 win its a solid 10. Best post in the whole thread for me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufcjb Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Truly feel we are the worst team in the league. Absolutely hopeless. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 44 minutes ago, nufcjb said: Truly feel we are the worst team in the league. Absolutely hopeless. I watched Watford last night and Norwich to a degree and both looked shite , yet we are worse , why? It’s criminal, all the hallmarks of the Shearer lead side that went down Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Decky Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 (edited) That side would never have went down under normal circumstances. We'd Joe Kinnear for most of the season then Shearer with absolutely no experience. Howe would have easily kept that squad up. This team is a whole new level, its probably our worst ever top flight squad. Edited January 22, 2022 by Decky Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karjala Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 The numbers don't lie, this is our worst squad we've ever had, still using players we signed to get us out of the Championship. 1 win in 20 Worst defence in a PL calendar year in history 3pts away from home in 9 games home loss to Cambridge The 2 seasons Rafa was here we stayed up basically on our defensive record (conceding 47 and 48) - this season we've already shipped 43 in 20. Bruce's first season was pretty much saved by defenders scoring Bruce's second season was saved by Willock signing and going on a record scoring run (we were 17th 3pts above the drop before he started) We somehow need another Willock to get us 8 goals between now and the end of the season. Wood? Lingard? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hhtoon Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 (edited) Can someone remind me how many wins we've had these season? Karjala hasn't mentioned it for 12 mins and it's slipped my mind Edited January 22, 2022 by Hhtoon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stottie Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 20 minutes ago, Karjala said: We somehow need another Willock to get us 8 goals between now and the end of the season. Wood? Lingard? Understat says we have zero goals from 5 xG when leading by a single goal. 50 odd shots. The failure to convert them is why we've lost so many points. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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