Kanji Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 He looked incredible. People misplace places, ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Ahmed Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 I thought he was really good. 55/61 was his passing accuracy, which is pretty good even if he misplaced the odd one, can't expect him to get it right all the time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 I’d imagine Schar was much worse with his passing stats but I remember Botman giving it straight to West Ham to set them on the counter a couple of times. Then the one near the end where he just hammered it straight off and nobody was within 30 yards of the ball. He was quality, as always. Just think there were a few sloppy moments. Which is unlike him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingArthur Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 For a Dutch that has played at Ajax, he is surprisingly uncomfortable with the ball. Huge difference to Schär, who to be fair is great. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Butcher Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 WHAT Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPL Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 Just now, KingArthur said: For a Dutch that has played at Ajax, he is surprisingly uncomfortable with the ball. Huge difference to Schär, who to be fair is great. You been watching Titus Bramble? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 Botman's absolute quality on the ball though and has been consistently. Everyone was sloppy today I thought Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 Just now, KingArthur said: For a Dutch that has played at Ajax, he is surprisingly uncomfortable with the ball. Huge difference to Schär, who to be fair is great. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pubteam Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Kanji said: He looked incredible. People misplace places, ffs. The lack of Bruno in the middle caused problems for us playing out from the back, he always always available as an out ball. Edited February 4, 2023 by pubteam Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 Motm today. Many were off today — if only for a half. Not him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 The game slows when he gets possession,he knows what to do Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Puppets Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 6 minutes ago, KingArthur said: For a Dutch that has played at Ajax, he is surprisingly uncomfortable with the ball. Huge difference to Schär, who to be fair is great. That’s the worst take I’ve read on this forum since the takeover. Wow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingArthur Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, CPL said: You been watching Titus Bramble? No, just comparing him to Schär. Doesn't want to use his right foot, which puts him under pressure unnecessarily. He is great defender and was good today (again). He just was sloppy on the ball, but we were poor with the ball as a whole. edit. For example, doesn't like to step out with the ball from the back, again comparing to Schär. Don't understand why saying this makes people react so angrily? It's not like I say he is poor. Just comparing him to Ake, Blind etc. who have played as a full back even. Edited February 4, 2023 by KingArthur Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyt Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 He's absolutely brilliant with the ball. His switches to Trippier are a huge asset Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 For he age he is incredible. To think he is nowhere near finished developing is wild. Seen very few defenders as good as him in a black and white shirt. Two (Woodgate and colo) since I've been supporting. It's a pinch myself moment we got him really. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazza ladra Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 10 minutes ago, joeyt said: He's absolutely brilliant with the ball. His switches to Trippier are a huge asset He’s quite good. I don’t think he’s as good as Schaar though. Poor choice of words from King Arthur. Not uncomfortable, just not as fluid and aggressive as Fab. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPL Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 13 minutes ago, KingArthur said: No, just comparing him to Schär. Doesn't want to use his right foot, which puts him under pressure unnecessarily. He is great defender and was good today (again). He just was sloppy on the ball, but we were poor with the ball as a whole. edit. For example, doesn't like to step out with the ball from the back, again comparing to Schär. Don't understand why saying this makes people react so angrily? It's not like I say he is poor. Just comparing him to Ake, Blind etc. who have played as a full back even. You mentioned he is uncomfortable with the ball which couldn't be further from the truth. Bruno not playing today put more pressure on us as Joelinton and Willock aren't as good in a deeper position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrRaspberryJam Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 16 minutes ago, KingArthur said: No, just comparing him to Schär. Doesn't want to use his right foot, which puts him under pressure unnecessarily. He is great defender and was good today (again). He just was sloppy on the ball, but we were poor with the ball as a whole. edit. For example, doesn't like to step out with the ball from the back, again comparing to Schär. Don't understand why saying this makes people react so angrily? It's not like I say he is poor. Just comparing him to Ake, Blind etc. who have played as a full back even. Schar is very sloppy on the ball at times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghandis Flip-Flop Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 16 minutes ago, KingArthur said: No, just comparing him to Schär. Doesn't want to use his right foot, which puts him under pressure unnecessarily. He is great defender and was good today (again). He just was sloppy on the ball, but we were poor with the ball as a whole. edit. For example, doesn't like to step out with the ball from the back, again comparing to Schär. Don't understand why saying this makes people react so angrily? It's not like I say he is poor. Just comparing him to Ake, Blind etc. who have played as a full back even. Well by that logic Schar is equally crap as he doesn’t want to play it out with his left foot 🤦🏻 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nattfare Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 28 minutes ago, KingArthur said: For a Dutch that has played at Ajax, he is surprisingly uncomfortable with the ball. Huge difference to Schär, who to be fair is great. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingArthur Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 1 minute ago, MrRaspberryJam said: Schar is very sloppy on the ball at times. True, and missplaces passes like today. But his job clearly is to be more creative of the 2 centrehalves. Try to play longer pass to left wing, behing for Wilson or step out with the ball. Botman plays deeper and easier. Driven pass to Trippier is good one of course. We will see this better against Liverpool or City when they most likely will be pressing high. Love to be proven wrong. He is superb in the most important task, that is defending and had Antonio who is really strong handled well. I love the guy. Just noticed that he keeps the play pretty simple. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingArthur Posted February 4, 2023 Share Posted February 4, 2023 22 minutes ago, CPL said: You mentioned he is uncomfortable with the ball which couldn't be further from the truth. Bruno not playing today put more pressure on us as Joelinton and Willock aren't as good in a deeper position. English is my third language, so maybe uncomfortable is not the right word. I think "not his greatest strength" would be better. Not saying he is poor on the ball. Sorry if this was misunderstood. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffee_Johnny Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 11 hours ago, KingArthur said: English is my third language, so maybe uncomfortable is not the right word. I think "not his greatest strength" would be better. Not saying he is poor on the ball. Sorry if this was misunderstood. I knew what you meant you Anglophile named NUFC-nutjob 😉 He doesn’t look ‘hungry for possession’ (his own) take lots of subtle touches or showboat. He’s comfortable, technically adept and a great long passer. But he is efficient, gets rid, and lets the forward players do their thing. However we conceptualise his game, it is extremely effective. Hope he carries on doing what he’s doing, except for he needs to score a thunderbastard winner at Wembley which I intend to (unwisely) place a chunk of money on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Edgar Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 12 hours ago, The Butcher said: WHAT Big fan of WHAT Especially when delivered in the appropriate circumstances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenny Posted February 5, 2023 Share Posted February 5, 2023 I think it's worth noting that a lot of the actions you see taken by our players are their own specific instructions now, rather than them just doing what they think works as with under the likes of Bruce. For example, Schar being more inclined to carry the ball forward than Botman is because Botman has recovery pace that Schar doesn't, so it's less of a risk. Schar will often be more aggressive going in for the challenge, with Botman ready to sweep in behind, likely for the same reason. I also read somewhere that our defenders are explicitly told to use the keeper less (I think it might have been an article on Botman), but look for a line breaking pass as frequently as possible. Line breaking passes are high risk, high reward, so it stands to reason that some high risk passes are going to fail. The important thing is that the upside of the higher risk passes far outweighs the downside that the occasional failed pass brings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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