KaKa Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Was watching some clips of that Mitchel Bakker kid and he looks like he would be a fantastic signing. Gets forward well and looks like he has a really good delivery into the box. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 That is some fall from grace for Matty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, KaKa said: Dele has been brutally mismanaged at Spurs, and his value has plummeted. They'll be glad to get something for him at this point. He's not beign used by Conte now either and so his value will only continue to fall further and further. Mismanaged? By Mourinho, Nuno AND Conte? It screams lack of application by the player to get picked rather than mismanagement, imo. His performances when he DOES get picked back this up too- he hardly busts a gut and makes it impossible to drop him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Imagine the contrast to last week if we end up with two or three canny signings. What a win does, eh. Howay the lads. Off to wum Grand Old Team, see yous in a bit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nine Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 No way we let the Longstaffs go out if we dont sign at least 2 CMs Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 4 minutes ago, KaKa said: Was watching some clips of that Mitchel Bakker kid and he looks like he would be a fantastic signing. Gets forward well and looks like he has a really good delivery into the box. Solid defensively ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, Manxst said: Mismanaged? By Mourinho, Nuno AND Conte? It screams lack of application by the player to get picked rather than mismanagement, imo. His performances when he DOES get picked back this up too- he hardly busts a gut and makes it impossible to drop him. I said he has been badly mismanaged at Spurs and he has been. In the sense that they should have sold him much sooner, before he completely fell out of the picture. They will be in no kind of position to be tough in negotiations for him like your original post stated. Interest in him has completely dried up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 5 minutes ago, SUPERTOON said: Solid defensively ? Harder to say from youtube clips, but he does look like he's got decent pace and strength, and is physical when going after the ball. Think he'd be a very interesting signing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
STM Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 8 minutes ago, Nine said: No way we let the Longstaffs go out if we dont sign at least 2 CMs Matty can go like. Has no place at PL club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, KaKa said: I said he has been badly mismanaged at Spurs and he has been. In the sense that they should have sold him much sooner, before he completely fell out of the picture. They will be in no kind of position to be tough in negotiations for him like your original post stated. Interest in him has completely dried up. My original post? Not me, I don’t think? They should’ve sold him a year or two back imo. His stock has fallen so badly they won’t be getting true market value right now. In respect of him being ‘mismanaged’- that’s nothing to do with being sold or not in my opinion. He’s been shite due to his own attitude and hence had limited appearances. That’s not mismanagement. It’s management that’s been perceived the right thing for the team/club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Carlos, Bakker, Alli and Zapata would be fucking mint. Still crying out for a DM though if the above unlikely scenario happened. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzaschicken Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 18 minutes ago, 54 said: Apparently there have been a lot of news coming out over the last 10 minutes The peaks and troughs of supporting nufc last Saturday we are doomed this evening it's 3 points and looking positive. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Just now, Manxst said: My original post? Not me, I don’t think? They should’ve sold him a year or two back imo. His stock has fallen so badly they won’t be getting true market value right now. In respect of him being ‘mismanaged’- that’s nothing to do with being sold or not in my opinion. He’s been shite due to his own attitude and hence had limited appearances. That’s not mismanagement. It’s management that’s been perceived the right thing for the team/club. You appear to agree, then change your direction in order to disagree. I think what Kaka is saying is that he has been mismanaged precisely because he wasn't sold. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 I still think we will end up getting lingard personally, just can’t see him sitting on Man Utd’s bench the rest of the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Alli, Lingard, Carlos, and maybe one surprise, keeps us up 100%. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happinesstan Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Alli AND Lingard is overkill. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Just now, Happinesstan said: You appear to agree, then change your direction in order to disagree. I think what Kaka is saying is that he has been mismanaged precisely because he wasn't sold. Maybe. I got confused about him stating “tough in negotiations like your original post stated” which threw me as I’ve never said anything like that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 1 minute ago, Happinesstan said: Alli AND Lingard is overkill. I'm cool with that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manxst Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 3 minutes ago, Happinesstan said: You appear to agree, then change your direction in order to disagree. I think what Kaka is saying is that he has been mismanaged precisely because he wasn't sold. Plus I don’t think him not being sold can be classed as ‘mismanagement’? He’s their commodity at the end of the day. Management is more to do with picking him and his availability for the team so long as he’s their player. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafalove Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 6 minutes ago, ManDoon said: Yeah still need to address the midfield. More so than CB imo see I disagree with this. Not that we shouldn’t sign a midfielder, but personally I would prioritise atleast one cb. The amount of individual errors at cb this season has been ridiculous. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERTOON Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Glad by the time we next play we will know the squad for the rest of the season, off topic it why isn’t there a game for a couple of weeks now ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nemtizz Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Can we buy Monchi as well? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubaricho Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Just now, Rafalove said: see I disagree with this. Not that we shouldn’t sign a midfielder, but personally I would prioritise atleast one cb. The amount of individual errors at cb this season has been ridiculous. I know what you mean, and why you would see it that way, but our quality in midfield is even less than our quality at CB. If we get even one decent midfielder with some legs/creativity it takes such a massive amount of pressure off of our defense and they will look a much better unit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
olliemort Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Cb is def priority when lascelles is starting and his replacement was fckn ciaran clark, 100% need a cm after that. Shelvey was ok today but legs are needed badly in there along with someone who can tackle and pass 🤣 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 1 minute ago, Manxst said: My original post? Not me, I don’t think? They should’ve sold him a year or two back imo. His stock has fallen so badly they won’t be getting true market value right now. In respect of him being ‘mismanaged’- that’s nothing to do with being sold or not in my opinion. He’s been shite due to his own attitude and hence had limited appearances. That’s not mismanagement. It’s management that’s been perceived the right thing for the team/club. Ah, it was the post I originally responded to from SUPERTOON. Dele was a huge asset at one point. People always tend to focus on his weaknesses i.e. defensive contribution, but he is lethal in the final third both scoring goals and creating them. Poch was clever enough to find a way to accommodate him in a team that went all the way to the Champions League final, and he was a key contributor. Spurs have gone for a certain type of manager since Poch, and they are all types that would not really find a place for a player like Dele and so in the first instance once Mourinho came in and started ostracising him, they had to make a tough call at that point. If they were going to back Mourinho to the hilt then they should have moved him on when there was still pretty decent interest in him. Poch wanted him at PSG and I imagine they could have got a decent fee for him from them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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