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3 minutes ago, ManDoon said:

You don’t think owners would go to town on them? What makes you think that? Like HTT said, we literally fired Jonas when he got cancer. These people do not give a single fuck about the players 

I'm sure they would. I think where we differ is on how much. I mean would it be unacceptable to expect them to work two years to earn every penny they'll ever need.

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1 minute ago, Mahoneys Tache said:


wise lad. Did he say ‘pelanty’?

 

 

 

Probably, he was a cracking bloke, when he married his wife she had to leave her job at the council offices because only single ladies were allowed to work there.

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1 minute ago, ManDoon said:

Yeah it can be a really detrimental experience for the kids I don’t know what the solution is. They just need to

incorporate a holistic approach I think, more education, more support. 

Aye, don’t get me wrong, it’s a fantastic experience especially at a younger age, but the pressure after 10 years of age becomes too much. I look at it as great facilities, game time, decent coaching, play time for my boy basically. 

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4 minutes ago, Happinesstan said:

The bartender reference was tongue in cheek. The point is everybody is at risk of failure, and everybody sacrifices whatever else they could be doing otherwise. saying we need agents to protect people from being fleeced, when they're earning every penny they'll ever need, in a year, is just dumb.

It's not like I'm saying they shouldn't be paid at all.

So just because they may end up earning everything they will ever need doesn’t mean they don’t need represented? I recommend reading up on our own club’s history and how much say Milburn made compared to how much he made the club through his exploits, he could barely afford boots while the club directors were drinking the finest whiskey and cigars in the best suits and fine dining while players had to get the bus. 

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Just now, ManDoon said:

But where do you want that money to go? If it doesn’t go to them it’s going to billionaires and execs, it won’t get passed onto the fans. I don’t see why they are singled out. To make it at that level you’re literally in a tiny percentile in the world, how is it unfair that they get the bulk of the money that they themselves generate? 

I'd like that money to stay in the pockets of the [regularly, not just subject to the risk, fleeced] fans. In the from of reduced ticket pricing, reduce replicas strips. Etc.

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2 minutes ago, Ben said:

Any good ?


 

Very. Had a pretty bad injury a while ago but is back on track now. Can play all positions in a front three. Very very talented. Only a matter of time before he is playing for France I reckon. Should buy him now as in a year or two he will probably cost double.

 

 

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5 minutes ago, HTT II said:

So just because they may end up earning everything they will ever need doesn’t mean they don’t need represented? I recommend reading up on our own club’s history and how much say Milburn made compared to how much he made the club through his exploits, he could barely afford boots while the club directors were drinking the finest whiskey and cigars in the best suits and fine dining while players had to get the bus. 

Bit patronising. Like I said earlier, the argument that their careers are short has existed since it was actually a valid argument, but there have been annual improvements based upon this argument ever since and it's just parody now. 

How much are we talking about the players getting fleeced without agents? Surely all that matters is that the player is happy with his wage.

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5 minutes ago, Happinesstan said:

Bit patronising. Like I said earlier, the argument that their careers are short has existed since it was actually a valid argument, but there have been annual improvements based upon this argument ever since and it's just parody now. 

How much are we talking about the players getting fleeced without agents? Surely all that matters is that the player is happy with his wage.

I don’t buy their careers are short once they make it and earn millions, they can when retired and usually do, end up on the football gravy train as pundits or whatever and earn good or do something else, I’m mainly on about academy kids and youngsters when it comes to the game not looking out for them and no-one wants to be fleeced, an agent is sadly essential whether you’re Longstaff or Neymar otherwise clubs will fuck you over and who do we pay to watch? Players, they are the stars!

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6 minutes ago, HTT II said:

I don’t buy their careers are short once they make it and earn millions, they can when retired and usually do, end up on the football gravy train as pundits or whatever and earn good or do something else, I’m mainly on about academy kids and youngsters when it comes to the game not looking out for them and no-one wants to be fleeced, an agent is sadly essential whether you’re Longstaff or Neymar otherwise clubs will fuck you over and who do we pay to watch? Players, they are the stars!

Well, my apologies but we were talking about A 20 year old negotiating a possible £30-40k per week contract. I can certainly come onside with your argument. But the PFA should be taking care of that. 

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I once taught an ex Hartlepool player that made and lost a small fortune, he always said he wished he had better advice when he was young and daft.

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Just now, Ben said:

I once taught an ex Hartlepool player that made and lost a small fortune, he always said he wished he had better advice when he was young and daft.

Who doesn't. Truth is we had that advice but we knew better.

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2 minutes ago, ManDoon said:

Fleeced is still fleeced even if the amount they get at the end is sizable, I think the owners would leverage the fuck out of players, and try to screw them. You can make jokes about a “pittance”‘of 30k a week but are they not entitled to earn their worth? Workers earning the most is a GOOD thing 

Who's joking? 

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Just now, ManDoon said:

If I had my way, the workers at every single mega corp would be getting the full value of their Labour, not having it extracted from them. However that isn’t the case, so why are we wanting the workers in this particular instance to not?

 

Is it bullshit Amazon pays 8 pound and hour and Jeff Bezos makes billions from that Labour yes. Would I like them to be paid more, yes. Am I glad footballers are getting what they generate through their own work, also

yes. 

Even players I don’t rate or dislike, deserve whatever they get given how much they have put in to get to where they are. So long as they remain professional and give their all for their team of course.

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42 minutes ago, Ikon said:

Should just go for Gouiri instead who we have been linked with. 

 

Yeah, Gouiri would be a heck of an alternative option.

 

The only thing is though, he definitely would be too good to come in as a backup IMO.

 

I get the impression we are looking at a young backup option like Ekitike, and some of the others we've been linked with that are in a similar mould have been Broja, Goncalo Ramos, Joao Pedro and Arnaud Kalimuendo.

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Just for context, Mike Ashley has made more from NUFC than any player ever has or likely will from playing for us and has most likely never kicked a ball in his life never mind being able to. I know where I want my money going to, same with my taxes…

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5 minutes ago, KaKa said:

 

Yeah, Gouiri would be a heck of an alternative option.

 

 


Big fan of Gouiri. Bit cliched to say it, as it’s the comparison he gets most often, but he genuinely gives me Benzema vibes; extremely talented footballer.

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2 minutes ago, McCormick said:


Big fan of Gouiri. Bit cliched to say it, as it’s the comparison he gets most often, but he genuinely gives me Benzema vibes; extremely talented footballer.

 

Yeah, he certainly is. I'm generally a fan of footballers with North African heritage. Their attacking players just tend to have that unique flair to their game.

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I have to say, I’d love us to sign some African players, whether from there or of African heritage, they to me are the new Brazilians, so much flair and attacking instinct. Sadly I know fuck all about such players.

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