LV Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 1 minute ago, teohgk said: The Saudis probably regret buying this shite club Fuck me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
christ Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 In fairness to Howe I don’t think there’s many managers who could come in and salvage this mess. That’s not to say he’s without fault and he doesn’t deserve scrutiny but we’ve got so many gaping holes across the squad where we lack anything approaching Premier League quality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaKa Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Armchair Pundit said: I don't know if Howe is a problem tbh, I feel like it wouldn't matter who we have as manager. The players seem to have forgotten how to play, their confidence is shot to shit, we look like a side that's accepted it's fate. I'm starting to wonder if we actually need relegation to clear out some deadwood, play at a lower level to build ourselves back up from scratch in an environment that would give us time to gel a better team together and build a winning mentality. Maybe it's what's been scripted all along, both us and Rafa need to hit the reset button, fall in love with it all again... I just hope that if it takes a relegation to do that then the owners will bear with it and see the potential of the bigger picture. The current centre midfield and centre defence can only play one way. Sitting in deep on top of themselves and hoofing everything away. Until we get in new central defenders and central midfielders we will continue to struggle. Edited January 15, 2022 by KaKa Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 1 minute ago, Gazzaschicken said: He's a stroppy cunt, and for me we need grafters, a moment of brilliance counts for nothing when he doesn't do the basics a lot of the time. He would much rather turn his back on the ball and throw his hands up than chase the second ball. He is the best of the shite but that doesn't mean he's good. He's in the same class as adama traore and sissoko The moment of brilliance did count for something and then we conceded after he left the pitch Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagMal Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 The midfield and all our options are shite, we can't control a game, protect the defensive or launch an attack, the fact that shelvey and longstaff are getting games shows how deep in the shit we are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
prefabtoon Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 No improvement over Bruce. I'm sorry but we are down. We cant replace all the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HWTL Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 People blaming Howe is ridiculous, we moaned for Bruce ball so started playing more attacking, this team has been flirting with relegation for last few years and can't believe we stayed up this long. Can only piss with cock you've got. Players need to take responsibility. Obviously the game plan was what happened before the goal and Howe can't change the shit mentality after that to bottle it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Armchair Pundit Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 1 minute ago, prefabtoon said: No improvement over Bruce. I'm sorry but we are down. We cant replace all the team. Not entirely true, at least we're drawing some matches rather than losing all of them... but I get your point Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 The seeds of this season were sown a long long time ago. Blaming Howe for this is just facile. He may not be the best manager out there but he was the best around who would take the job on at the time. The team are imbued with mediocrity bar they odd one or two. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Pilgrim Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Just now, LV said: The seeds of this season were sown a long long time ago. Blaming Howe for this is just facile. He may not be the best manager out there but he was the best around who would take the job on at the time. The team are imbued with mediocrity bar they odd one or two. Absolving him of blame is facile. The easiest thing in the world is to say well yes please do relegate me because I deserve it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Spaceman Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 14 minutes ago, LV said: Get in the sea man. Him and Ashley are why we are where we are. Blaming Howe for it all, fuck me Had on, I'm not exactly blaming Howe for the last 14 years, but he's not exactly the saviour that some people have made him out to be. In truth we've seen little to nothing from him in terms of changing the way we play (we literally just press a bit higher, no other changes). He's been underwhelming to say the least. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealGoneKid Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Unt Shat Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazzaschicken Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 5 minutes ago, Palestoon said: Lascelles has to be replaced. get carlos in now. our midfield is so bad, so unatheltic. Its scary to think how much worse we would be if we hadnt discovered that our #9 last year is a solid option in midfied. Imagine playing shelvey longstaff and hendrick. beggars belief If you were Carlos would you sign for us? We are shite why would you want to sign for us Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NE27 Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 It's just poor all around. If I were the owners watching that I'd seriously consider holding back from any mental signings because I think the job is just too big for a January window. Dunno, mind is all over the shop after this one so I'm gonna take 5 out to think about it all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGRM Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 It’s just all so predictable now like. FFS so obvious we couldn’t hold out for the 3 points, the team hasn’t got the bollocks to do that, so many of them need replaced. I’ve been optimistic about staying up so far, but on that showing just can’t see it now. Unless we get 3 or 4 more signings in we are down. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Having bigger doubts he was the right person for the situation we were in tbh. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ponsaelius Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 The team is doomed imo. I'd just plan for the Championship. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 1 minute ago, Billy Pilgrim said: Absolving him of blame is facile. The easiest thing in the world is to say well yes please do relegate me because I deserve it. 14 years of fucking misery and you blame the guy who turns up for the last 3 months. Genius. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LV Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 1 minute ago, Dr.Spaceman said: Had on, I'm not exactly blaming Howe for the last 14 years, but he's not exactly the saviour that some people have made him out to be. In truth we've seen little to nothing from him in terms of changing the way we play (we literally just press a bit higher, no other changes). He's been underwhelming to say the least. He’s had the same squad man and you’re expecting him to come in here and turn this transatlantic tanker of a shitshow round in 3 months. Unreal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Pilgrim Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Just now, LV said: 14 years of fucking misery and you blame the guy who turns up for the last 3 months. Genius. I’m not in this to win awards for intellectual endeavour, I want vicarious glory, and if Howe can’t supply that then what is the point of sticking with him? The results are shit and he is in charge of results. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Icarus Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 With the exception of the break I had under Bruce, I feel like I've been saying 'we'll definitely need a second' for at least 8 years and rarely been wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mighty__mag Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 6 fucking minutes, and we were out of the bottom three. These lot really fucking piss me off, and always manage to turn my weekend to shit. Cunts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicane Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Oh fuck it all Had to go out quick in the second half and knew we'd screw it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
loki679 Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Hope Rafa gets sacked and we move heaven and earth to get him here in some capacity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillingtonMag Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 10 minutes ago, Gazzaschicken said: He's a stroppy cunt, and for me we need grafters, a moment of brilliance counts for nothing when he doesn't do the basics a lot of the time. He would much rather turn his back on the ball and throw his hands up than chase the second ball. He is the best of the shite but that doesn't mean he's good. He's in the same class as adama traore and sissoko It counts for a point today at least doesn't it you buffoon 🤣 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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