midds Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 Just now, Robster said: I am so disappointed that the players haven't drawn on the support from the crowd. They crumble. They're scared of getting or giving the ball and feeling the onus to actually do something constructive with it, especially at home. They've been conditioned into just sitting deep, tracking runners, squeezing play and trying to destroy attacks. Zero thought into actually playing football and dictating games, it's been football played without the ball, 27% football and they've just about coped by and large. Now they're being asked to actually play football and be constructive and creative and they've not got a fucking clue. It's like asking a fish to run down the street. This squad has been set up and built to actively not play football, defend for 75% of the time then spring and do something off the cuff to get goals and points. Bruce was fucking winging it but the regression was gathering pace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfcastle Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 34 minutes ago, Whitley mag said: The biggest disappointment so far for me. The support has been unrelenting since Spurs and the cunts have shown little response. Aye been really impressed considering the drop of after the start against Spurs. Where else gets an atmosphere and crowd like today with 1win this season and just dumped out of the cup by Cambridge. Couldn't ask more from the fans. Other clubs would be empty seats every where and the fans moaning after 20'. Noticed the Watford fans finally pipe up AFTER they scored - guess which set of fans gets rewarded. Sickening. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 If we had a new CB and LB today we might have won it. I've lost count the number of games we've lost from attacks from the right. Yet our first signing was a RB. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
triggs Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Inferior Acuña said: Think it's also 1) that was a low pressure game in the sense there was no 'must win' feel, it was much less tense, because we were playing an obviously better team and 2) relatedly ManU did not sit back, allowing us to counter, and we're shit trying to open up a team that sits and defends. Point 2 is exactly it and it always has been. ASM or Sissoko back in the day for example are always going to look far better when they have space on the counter to run with the ball. It's nowt to do with not being bothered in games against smaller teams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Puppets Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 3 minutes ago, duo said: If we had a new CB and LB today we might have won it. I've lost count the number of games we've lost from attacks from the right. Yet our first signing was a RB. Dummett played well today, for the most part. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duo Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 7 minutes ago, Shadow Puppets said: Dummett played well today, for the most part. He did I agree - but he should have stopped that cross. Just ran out of gas. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karjala Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 6 hours ago, Shadow Puppets said: What a difference 6 mins can make. If we’d have dealt with that cross everyone would have been saying it was a hard earned victory. Fine margins. Genuinely think we were the better team but the edginess in defence cost us and made us sit back. Lascelles’ error started the process of the game getting nervier. I don’t think it was a conscious game plan to sit back at all. How many times have we said that this season? 6? 7? Simply not good enough to win games in the PL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExiledGeordie Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 (edited) Just watched MOTD highlights. We really did go to pieces after scoring and to be honest Sissoko should’ve buried his chance after Lascelles cock up. The way we sat back inviting them on, players like rabbit in headlights. We should have gone for Watford to finish them off but players crumbled and Howe has to take some responsibility for this too. Wood has to do better in position leading up to the goal, we get down with a nice 1-2 but again Lascelles and our defence have to do better. Its a worry the lack of creativity going forwards with 1 shot on target against woeful opposition combined with the constant errors at the back. This current set aren’t going to get us out of it without some key signings which still could just about save us though looking very unlikely. (Our midfield too, Christ. Absolutely woeful) Edited January 16, 2022 by ExiledGeordie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest neesy111 Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 It was a game of 2 Half's, we were better first half, they were better 2nd. That was actually our worst performance at home under Howe in the PL so far. So tepid from an attacking perspective. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Magpie Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Sooner Lascelles buggers off the better, sorry but he's a clown. Two left feet and no footballing brain, he's meant to be our captain, a leader, he's spineless and shouldn't be a captain of this club. The difference in ability between Trippier and the rest of our squad bar Joelinton is massive. He looked calm and composed, the majority of others run round like headless chickens. Good goal from Maxi, couple decent runs but other than that he was poor. Just beat your man and whip a cross in. We need two up top, I noticed Wood was very isolated, won a lot of flick ons but there was no one near him to feed off these and carry on the attack. We need another striker but obviously the glaring issue right now is we have no back one, Two centre halfs needed. I've been patient but the Saudis need to blow a decent chunk of money now on two new centre halfs, get a decent midfielder in on loan and hopefully a left back we are going down. Maxi can't cross for Toffee, if we don't sign another striker then he should be played in the number 10 role behind Wood until Wilson is back and we can play two up top. Big Changes Needed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Well my take on it is much as the Cambridge game except in front we went , this is where it went wrong , self preservation mode kicked in , leave it to everyone else to defend instead of acting as a team and killing the game off. Longstaff being picked by EH is a worry though options are limited I’d actually fancy Schar in his role . The midfield is dreadful , that’s the big difference between us and the other teams in this league , we are awful . Its looking ominous now I’m afraid , so disappointed in everything but still 100% behind them all but it’s not what I expected from the new owners , quite what I did I can’t put my finger on it but the structure of the club and it’s set up has been so let go it’s going to take a whole heap of patience to finally get it right I’m afraid, this is not a quick fix . Relegation looms unless we get 2 quick wins imho. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWN Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 And by saying not what I expected I mean the structure, no DOF , the time it took for a manager , not getting who they wanted. They will get it right I’m sure , I’m just frustrated as everyone else is that finally we have the ammo but seem to be firing blanks . I want it now , all of it but know I’m going to have to wait . And one last thing , Shelvey, fuck me he’s gone back to type . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Was too deflated to post at full time yesterday. We’re doomed. They were appalling, but they move the ball so much faster in comparison. We don’t have a chance at breaking sides down when everything is so laboured. Every pass which isn’t misplaced is square. It’s slow, it’s pedestrian, it’s easy to defend against. Lascelles is done. He’s tragic, as is Sean Longstaff. We really are crying out for a couple of centre mids who can close down play and also drive us forward. I also hope any assist for ASM’s goal is given to whoever had him up against a wall at HT and told him to sort himself out. I don’t want to be a “body language expert” but his application and enthusiasm from the first minute was quite frankly pathetic. If these owners can sort an adequate replacement, I’d quite happily get rid. His attitude stinks and I think it’s only going to get worse. Not what we want in a relegation fight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkie Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Aye, watching ASM in the first half in particular, I was fuming like a Brexiteer watching Perez. Stinking attitude like you say. Constantly flailing his arms around like a stroppy dickhead, very much playing for himself rather than the team, rendering him basically useless. Would happily see him jettisoned if he wasn't the only one capable of pulling a rabbit out the hat. We don't have the luxury of not having him in the team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarrenBartonCentrePartin Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 8 minutes ago, Yorkie said: Aye, watching ASM in the first half in particular, I was fuming like a Brexiteer watching Perez. Stinking attitude like you say. Constantly flailing his arms around like a stroppy dickhead, very much playing for himself rather than the team, rendering him basically useless. Would happily see him jettisoned if he wasn't the only one capable of pulling a rabbit out the hat. We don't have the luxury of not having him in the team. He took what, a fingernail to the eye? And lay on the ground while they got the ball down the other end. Also stood pulling his own shirt and having a full-on strop down in the corner. Yesterday just made the HBA comparisons even more laughable. He’s lightyears behind what HBA was. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holloway Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 And yet in his interview on motd last night he stressed it was always about the team and not himself 👀 Hmmmmmmm.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menace Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Woke up today feeling even more fucked off than I did yesterday. What a fucking joke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackyboy Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Trippier acted more like the captain yesterday. Constantly shouting instructions to those around him while Lascelles was planning on giving the ball away Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
worthy Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Just now, ManDoon said: We actually dropped our crosses by half against Watford compared to Cambridge which seems very strange considering we had Wood. Was just having a look at some of the stats Yet somehow tools on here have a go at me for telling them the exact problem Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Just now, ManDoon said: I said at the time we signed him we would have to cross more, and we aren’t doing it lol Only Trippier and Ritchie can actually cross though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyeDubbleYoo Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 It almost looked to me like they’d been told not to go too direct just because Wood was playing. That always happened with Carroll. Also we don’t have many players who can cross. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
worthy Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Just now, AyeDubbleYoo said: It almost looked to me like they’d been told not to go too direct just because Wood was playing. That always happened with Carroll. Also we don’t have many players who can cross. So... We bought a player that doesn't suit our players? Much like so many people said? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0cafella Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Just now, ManDoon said: Yeah but we’ve had games this season where we’ve crossed more lol. Pre Trippier. Im just really saying burnley very much played to Wood’s strengths. Definitely, I think the longer term plan for Howe is to attack the flanks with the wide players cutting inside to make room for attacking full backs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parky Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Never would have taken ASM of. He keeps teams busy and stops them creeping forward as they did as soon as he went off. Even tired and distracted he's dangerous. Thought Wood did alright holding the ball up a few times and winning free kicks. Not sure what Howe see's in training, fitness or what the choices really are but he's made some mistakes. Against Man U when it was clear they were overloading down the right and Cavani was doing a stuttering run only half way into the box, for a cutback (they did it twice before he scored), Howe made no adjustments or sent out any instructions. Lewis for Dummett and Willock for Longstaff after we scored today for me. Willock can keep possession and get up the pitch and Lewis might have stopped the cross (Dummett was tired). CM, CD, another pacy striker. Not sure where the 7 wins are coming from to give us a chance. 35,36 might be enough this year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lush Vlad Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 28 minutes ago, ManDoon said: Chris Wood losing the ball as much as ASM is not really ideal. 6 challenges from Shelvey is disgusting. Also he only won 3 of them lol Looked extremely isolated and the service into him was pretty shit all round. His touch was very hit and miss, mind. A bit like Carroll, in that regard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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